MINI MAFIA I - GAME THREAD

[Ezio]

Yea I never did an end vote.

[xorxes]

repeating my vote for the bot:

##VOTE PE

[Ezio]

##call GM you have an endvote where I never made one.

[President Eden]

Playing this game on mobile is so awful. I cannot articulate for shit.

##UNVOTE

[bozotheclown]

@President Eden: the reason I think we should lynch the brainbomb slot is because I believe his slot is scum, not because he was replaced.

[President Eden]

Thamrick do you have any insight to add on ghug/Ezio asking for other wagons? It’s my belief that this fishing for counterwagons thing is all wrong, because rigging up counterwagons for information doesn’t do anything.

Problem is that ghug has no mafia incentive to do it. If xorxes is town then ghug doesn’t care about info here. If xorxes is mafia, ghug doesn’t hard bus in this spot imo

[Ezio]

@thamrick
Can you say what you thought was awful about the RD ISO?

[bozotheclown]

Does a brainbomb vote count for xorxes?

##VOTE xorxes

[thamrick]

You never answered my question (comment?) about why you ignored the rdrivera read from Pouncy and only addressed the bozo read.

I left it alone bc drivera eventually said that he retracted the read which made Pouncy suspect him, and because she later said bozo was her primary suspect. I found drivera’s explanation to be ok.

Can you point me to where rdr retracted that read? Still feel like it would be worth mentioning if you're doing a full read of Pouncy's views.

[President Eden]

Actually now that I thought that through, ghug is just town.
That helps a lot.
Makes Ezio a better target after all

[bozotheclown]

##CALL GM: Does ghug's vote for brainbomb count for xorxes?

[thamrick]

@President Eden: the reason I think we should lynch the brainbomb slot is because I believe his slot is scum, not because he was replaced.

Be more convincing if you really think it's scummy.

[President Eden]

You never answered my question (comment?) about why you ignored the rdrivera read from Pouncy and only addressed the bozo read.

I left it alone bc drivera eventually said that he retracted the read which made Pouncy suspect him, and because she later said bozo was her primary suspect. I found drivera’s explanation to be ok.

Can you point me to where rdr retracted that read? Still feel like it would be worth mentioning if you're doing a full read of Pouncy's views.

It was in his post voting for Durga iirc. I’m on mobile let me double check.
You are right about my not covering it, sorry for weak irl excuses but I just finished hour #45 this week and all my play since Monday morning has been either on phone or after 12+ hr shifts late at night. Not the best of circumstances lol.

[ghug]

##vote xorxes just in case

Please don't lynch Ezio. I'll likely be in a meeting until the day ends.

[thamrick]

Thamrick do you have any insight to add on ghug/Ezio asking for other wagons? It’s my belief that this fishing for counterwagons thing is all wrong, because rigging up counterwagons for information doesn’t do anything.

Problem is that ghug has no mafia incentive to do it. If xorxes is town then ghug doesn’t care about info here. If xorxes is mafia, ghug doesn’t hard bus in this spot imo

I think it wasn't an unnatural interaction on Ezio's end. I often ask my scumreads their thoughts to compare against my own. I don't really have an issue with what ghug said.

I find your obsession with it slightly scummy.

[President Eden]

Well, first of all, sorry for being away most of the weekend. Someone complained before and I agree that starting games on weekend is a bad idea. I hope to participate more during the week if you don't decide to lynch me.

To adress some of things that were said:
@Eden - I didn't said I townread brainbomb at that point, I just said it's a bad idea to lynch someone who is the biggest talker on D1 if the game is going really slow. In fact now I am townreading Brain, but not at that moment.

@Pouncy - I didn´t push Eden because I wasn't around to push it. And I don't want to push it now because I am not scumreading him anymore, I think he was really towny in that exchange with Durga. I would rather lynch Durga then Eden at this point (see below).

Someone asked about Bozo. Last game he was scum (GF) and tried to push townlynchs with really bad logic, but he could be trying to get a cop scan. Like he said, I usually scumread him since start when he is town, but this time I don't have a strong feeling as either town or scum.

Ghug is away skiing or something like that, so I will not read much on him not being around.

Thane will be subbed and Pounce didn't give me an impression.

This let Durga and Ezio as my top options to vote now. I thought Durga was really upset and defensive and this is exactly the way she acted as scum. This quote strike me really badly

Actually Eden, the implication of my previous statements directed towards you - namely the one about you being this bad in All Stars - means that I'm not so sure I scum read you anymore. I think you're pushing me because you're bad, not because you're scum.

Why wonder about Eden´s opinion to the point of looking an old game and then send a message like this, almost apologizing? It just doesn't seem town Durga.

So ##vote Durga

This post thamrick

[bozotheclown]

@thamrick: I have already stated all of the reasons why I think brainbomb was scum. Do you not see anything suspicious about what he did D1 EOF and the beginning of N1?

[thamrick]

@PE - you're right. I missed the rdr explanation

[President Eden]

Thamrick do you have any insight to add on ghug/Ezio asking for other wagons? It’s my belief that this fishing for counterwagons thing is all wrong, because rigging up counterwagons for information doesn’t do anything.

Problem is that ghug has no mafia incentive to do it. If xorxes is town then ghug doesn’t care about info here. If xorxes is mafia, ghug doesn’t hard bus in this spot imo

I think it wasn't an unnatural interaction on Ezio's end. I often ask my scumreads their thoughts to compare against my own. I don't really have an issue with what ghug said.

I find your obsession with it slightly scummy.

Man why would I point anything out in that spot if I’m scum. I just let it happen.
I agree about ghug not being suspect bc his motivation just doesn’t line up at all.
It’s Ezio that has me worried more because I swear to god I would never ask ghug that question that way in his shoes even if I felt the need to question my scumread. I would have questioned him the way I actually did, not offer up an option. Ezio says it was basically a freeroll and that ghug might have jumped and said something incriminating, but even that doesn’t suffice to me because there are better ways to ask that same argument that might actually work. ghug is more experienced than to jump at that imo.
Clearly no one agrees and I’ll admit he could be town and just phrased it inefficiently, but I’m alarmed no one else even blinked!

[Jamiet99uk]

GM NOTES

Ezio voted ##end at the top of page 28.

Votes on Brainbomb count as votes for Xorxes because it is the same slot.