Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

Squigs how do you feel about the fact that he who must not be named or he'll abuse me about this post has contributed nothing the whole game. I'm really noticing it on this day but it's like he's really coasting.

[FlaviusAetius]

Im not going to be on at EoD
Dont ABANDON FoxCastle he is the most obvious scum in this game right now

[Squigs44]

Ok listen, teacon is no way in heck actually a scum
FoxCastle has so much evidence mounting upon him, yet he refuses to respond to even ONE question
That spreadsheet probably took like 2 seconds to make, dont be fooled

I would like to see you make a spreadsheet and comb through over 300 possible scumpairings in "like 2 seconds".

Do you even know how spreadsheets work, that can happen AUTOMATICALLY

Flav, if this is so easy, I want to see you do it. Make a spreadsheet with every single 4 person scumteam possibility. Then go through them and get rid of every single pairing that would not make sense based on a re-read of the game. Let me know how long it takes you.

[FlaviusAetius]

Squigs how do you feel about the fact that he who must not be named or he'll abuse me about this post has contributed nothing the whole game. I'm really noticing it on this day but it's like he's really coasting.

Who

[FlaviusAetius]

I would like to see you make a spreadsheet and comb through over 300 possible scumpairings in "like 2 seconds".

Do you even know how spreadsheets work, that can happen AUTOMATICALLY

Flav, if this is so easy, I want to see you do it. Make a spreadsheet with every single 4 person scumteam possibility. Then go through them and get rid of every single pairing that would not make sense based on a re-read of the game. Let me know how long it takes you.

If I do it will you vote FoxCastle as scum

[Squigs44]

Squigs how do you feel about the fact that he who must not be named or he'll abuse me about this post has contributed nothing the whole game. I'm really noticing it on this day but it's like he's really coasting.

As I solve more and more, he is increasingly becoming a more viable option for a scumteam member just based on POE. Definitely need to resolve today and damo/connor before even considering putting together a wagon on him, but yeah he has definitely not helped town in any obvious way.

[ChippeRock]

##vote teacon

maybe its my infatuation with spreadsheets, but there is no way scum Fox does that

Ok listen, teacon is no way in heck actually a scum
FoxCastle has so much evidence mounting upon him, yet he refuses to respond to even ONE question
That spreadsheet probably took like 2 seconds to make, dont be fooled

I would like to see you make a spreadsheet and comb through over 300 possible scumpairings in "like 2 seconds".

Why even are there only 300? Shouldn't there be around eight thousand combinations of the mafia team?

How did he even weed out those eight thousand to 300?

[Squigs44]

Do you even know how spreadsheets work, that can happen AUTOMATICALLY

Flav, if this is so easy, I want to see you do it. Make a spreadsheet with every single 4 person scumteam possibility. Then go through them and get rid of every single pairing that would not make sense based on a re-read of the game. Let me know how long it takes you.

If I do it will you vote FoxCastle as scum

No, but I will actually respect your opinion on the matter.

[FlaviusAetius]

Ok I will wake up super early tomorrow to answer anymore questions, we need to lynch FoxCastle

[ChippeRock]

Squigs how do you feel about the fact that he who must not be named or he'll abuse me about this post has contributed nothing the whole game. I'm really noticing it on this day but it's like he's really coasting.

As I solve more and more, he is increasingly becoming a more viable option for a scumteam member just based on POE. Definitely need to resolve today and damo/connor before even considering putting together a wagon on him, but yeah he has definitely not helped town in any obvious way.

I'm not quite sure if this is referencing me (probably not? I dunno), but what about Durga's lack of significant contribution to this game? She similarly hasn't provided any (Neph being the sole exception I can recall) detailed reads, ISOs, or detailed explanations behind votes. So damn hypocritical - she doesn't even have the excuse that she doesn't have the time to do that, as she's made an extremely high number of posts (low content posts of course).

[FlaviusAetius]

Squigs how do you feel about the fact that he who must not be named or he'll abuse me about this post has contributed nothing the whole game. I'm really noticing it on this day but it's like he's really coasting.

As I solve more and more, he is increasingly becoming a more viable option for a scumteam member just based on POE. Definitely need to resolve today and damo/connor before even considering putting together a wagon on him, but yeah he has definitely not helped town in any obvious way.

I'm not quite sure if this is referencing me (probably not? I dunno), but what about Durga's lack of significant contribution to this game? She similarly hasn't provided any (Neph being the sole exception I can recall) detailed reads, ISOs, or detailed explanations behind votes. So damn hypocritical - she doesn't even have the excuse that she doesn't have the time to do that, as she's made an extremely high number of posts (low content posts of course).

FoxCastle has done the EXACT same thing!!!

[FlaviusAetius]

Oh your voting for FoxCastle

[Squigs44]

Ok listen, teacon is no way in heck actually a scum
FoxCastle has so much evidence mounting upon him, yet he refuses to respond to even ONE question
That spreadsheet probably took like 2 seconds to make, dont be fooled

I would like to see you make a spreadsheet and comb through over 300 possible scumpairings in "like 2 seconds".

Why even are there only 300? Shouldn't there be around eight thousand combinations of the mafia team?

How did he even weed out those eight thousand to 300?

There are 13 people. He was working off the assumption that himself and Neph were town. So that is 11 possible choices to build a 4 person team.

To calculate this, you use combinations, so 11 choose 4. This is equal to (11)(10)(9)(8)/(4)(3)(2)(1) = 330.

[FlaviusAetius]

Sigh, I am trying to reread game to see something new and it is an awful grind.

Feel free to ask me questions instead.

Just found that gem on D4 from FoxCastle, guys he reread the game and all he has to produce out of it is...............
A SPREADSHEET
LYNCH HIM

[Squigs44]

Durga I can't even with this game anymore. Please don't die before me.

[ChippeRock]

I would like to see you make a spreadsheet and comb through over 300 possible scumpairings in "like 2 seconds".

Why even are there only 300? Shouldn't there be around eight thousand combinations of the mafia team?

How did he even weed out those eight thousand to 300?

There are 13 people. He was working off the assumption that himself and Neph were town. So that is 11 possible choices to build a 4 person team.

To calculate this, you use combinations, so 11 choose 4. This is equal to (11)(10)(9)(8)/(4)(3)(2)(1) = 330.

Hold on, why is it being divided by 4 x 3 x 2 x 1? Should it just be 11 x 10 x 9 x 8?

[ND]

There are basically three options

1. Lynch Fox, I don't like it that much at all

2. Lynch Teacon, I don't like it that much at all

3. Tie the vote, I don't even know if that's possible

How do you not like it, a few pages ago you were just saying how FoxCastle is scum

I mean, you don't think that takes work? Obviously I don't know much code but that illustrates gamesolving man. It kind of makes me see him in a different light now.

[ChippeRock]

There are basically three options

1. Lynch Fox, I don't like it that much at all

2. Lynch Teacon, I don't like it that much at all

3. Tie the vote, I don't even know if that's possible

How do you not like it, a few pages ago you were just saying how FoxCastle is scum

I mean, you don't think that takes work? Obviously I don't know much code but that illustrates gamesolving man. It kind of makes me see him in a different light now.

I'm not denying he put in a lot of effort into the game, but putting a lot of effort into the game shouldn't be a significant criteria when it comes to reading people as scum or town.

[Squigs44]

Why even are there only 300? Shouldn't there be around eight thousand combinations of the mafia team?

How did he even weed out those eight thousand to 300?

There are 13 people. He was working off the assumption that himself and Neph were town. So that is 11 possible choices to build a 4 person team.

To calculate this, you use combinations, so 11 choose 4. This is equal to (11)(10)(9)(8)/(4)(3)(2)(1) = 330.

Hold on, why is it being divided by 4 x 3 x 2 x 1? Should it just be 11 x 10 x 9 x 8?

No. If it were a permutation, then it would just be the (11)(10)(9)(8), but it is a combination. With combinations, ordering doesn't matter, so you divide by the possible ways to order those teams (4)(3)(2)(1).

Now I am curious. How did you get 8000?

[Squigs44]

Oh, 11P4 is just under 8000, okay.