Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[ND]

Boys and Drugna this is what we call a meltdown

[Squigs44]

Can we go back to talking about Fox and teacon?

[ChippeRock]

Damo-Fox-ET all on Teacon. Really makes me think.

C'mon man, you're getting into tinfoil hat territory - you know Fox HAS to vote for teacon no matter his alignment.

[FlaviusAetius]

I spent all of d3 voting and pushing scum? Yeet

Oh shit, you're right, scum would never do that!

Oh shit, you're wrong, they totally would...

Big truth right there

It literally isnt, its making everyone wake up to the ridiculousness that is FoxCastle

[Squigs44]

Flav who is your scumteam?

[teacon7]

Damo-Fox-ET all on Teacon. Really makes me think.

C'mon man, you're getting into tinfoil hat territory - you know Fox HAS to vote for teacon no matter his alignment.

Yeah I have never seen scum vote with that degree of blatant coordination. Scum psych generally uses confusion to win votes, not coordination.

[FlaviusAetius]

I'm not entertaining a garbage scum read on me atm. If you survive you can push it the next day.

Why Connor?

Why not? You've had a garbage scum read on me all game? And look, there you are at the front of my wagon.

oml the same things you have been doing ALL DAY LONG
You just declare stuff and act like you have perfectly good reasons when anyone pressures you, and then you push questions on others, it makes NO SENSE

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav who is your scumteam?

It was Nepthys, but then he proved himself to be judge so right now

FoxCastle--Scum
Squigs--Town
Nepthys--Scum
et--Town
Durga--idk
Chippie--Town
Connor--Town
Percy--Scum
ND--idk
damo--idk
peter--idk
teacon--town

[FlaviusAetius]

You've owed me a real case for a couple days now. Why avoid the question now? Surely you've had time to formulate why you think I'm scum?

Hold the phone dude, who do you even think you are?
To ask Durga a question??
Like goodness gracious, wake up and smell the coffee, YOU are on the panel right now, PROVE yourself to be a town FIRST, then and only THEN will we listen to YOU
Cause oh BOY do I have some questions for you;

1) Why does every single dead towns person suspect you?
2) Why have you not formed not even one case?
3) Why are you so stagnate on your votes?
4) Why are you so coy with everyone, it's like your reluctant to give anything

[Squigs44]

Flav who is your scumteam?

It was Nepthys, but then he proved himself to be judge so right now

FoxCastle--Scum
Squigs--Town
Nepthys--Scum
et--Town
Durga--idk
Chippie--Town
Connor--Town
Percy--Scum
ND--idk
damo--idk
peter--idk
teacon--town

Wait what? Didn't you just say Neph is judge?

[teacon7]

flav your list has neph as scum. neph is the judge.

Why do you think fox is scum? You've been saying "all that stuff" which is fine but doesn't help us. Can you give a bullet point list of like three solid reasons why you're voting the way you are?

[Squigs44]

You've owed me a real case for a couple days now. Why avoid the question now? Surely you've had time to formulate why you think I'm scum?

Hold the phone dude, who do you even think you are?
To ask Durga a question??
Like goodness gracious, wake up and smell the coffee, YOU are on the panel right now, PROVE yourself to be a town FIRST, then and only THEN will we listen to YOU
Cause oh BOY do I have some questions for you;

1) Why does every single dead towns person suspect you?
2) Why have you not formed not even one case?
3) Why are you so stagnate on your votes?
4) Why are you so coy with everyone, it's like your reluctant to give anything

I can't take this seriously

[FlaviusAetius]

Maybe, yeah. My personal theory is that if you and Balki landed scum together, you could use that existent relationship to get over some of the scumbling blocks that I think you hit when playing with scum that you're not as natural with.

Uh, that would have been fun but I too was fooled by our fake BA.

This is really lazy foxy. Pls come up with something real and less speculative. Tell me about my scummy behaviour.

you spent all day voting xorxes, but shading other players.
compare durga's d3 on xorx: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?us ... rt=d3&g=46
with her d3 talking about teacon: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?us ... rt=d3&g=46

If we accept that xorx told his team to bus him, and use d3 to set up mislynches consider gems like this:

have xorxes and teacon acknowledged each other in this game?

i think teacon and xorxes are on the same team.

i think percy may or may not be on that team.

damo is probably scum, connor too, annnnnnnnnnnnd i have no idea who the last one is honestly. maybe its foxy knoxy

I feel pretty good about et as town for now. He's been really genuine with his reads - if y'all are gonna vote someone sus that isn't xorxes, I recommend teacon or Fox (I know I was initially against Fox but Damn he's actually scummy)

Teacon is providing fake!content but I still feel better about lynching xorxes

Look at this exchange:

My concern with teacon is I thought for sure he was scum last game and he ended up being town. He really just comes off as fake and manipulative.

Like...smarmy?

Let's not forget Balki also spent all of d3 shading me:

Also, for the record, I believe that Foxcastle and teacon are both mafia. But that’s not based on anything special. Just my reads. I have no reason to lie. If you guys lynch Town this phase, I lose right along with you.

Look at what Balki was doing. Bussing xorx, and setting up conditions for mislynches in the future. Think about what this means after his flip:

rdrivera, I don't think it's a good idea to keep Xorxes alive just because it was "too quiet." We have ND pushing ET, Damo pushing basically anyone but Xorxes, teacon pushing Foxy Knoxy. I mean...that's intense. I don't think you should expect six scum to joinm together and push a counterwagon. But this is about as much subtle Xorx defending as you would expect if he is scum. And nobody is actually defending him (also what you would expect). They are just pushing other wagons.

He said this, knowing that he was going to die n3. He said "don't try to save xorx, don't start other wagons. you guys will mislynch damo and teacon d4."



Look at this. What is Balki actually saying? He's trying to create subconscious links between me and xorx. But he never once votes me, because he knows he'll die n3 and flip as scum.

I don't care too much. I have both teacon and Xorxes on just about every full scum team I can come up with. But I want to make sure Town/BA is voting together here because splitting votes makes shenanigans much easier during a phase where a Mislynch is a disaster. This is especially true where scum has a secretary who could coordinate some mischief.

Should I stay on Xorx or change to teacon? I have to go in 2 minutes.

Yes indeed Balki. Why didn't you change to me? He wasn't going to get townread ever again.

..........



Meanwhile, let's talk about manipulative.

My concern with teacon is I thought for sure he was scum last game and he ended up being town. He really just comes off as fake and manipulative.

So.... Really durga? Who was being fake and manipulative d3? Balki for certain. Can you see why I'm skeptical of the shade I got from you d3 also? Durga and Balki played d3 more or less the same way.

LOL WHY DID HE PLAY THE LAST DAY SO PRO-TOWN
I'm fucking dead

Why was his game so towny? I don't think it was at all.

To anyone who even questions teacon is a scum,
first ask yourself; why?
Next ask yourself; why is he putting cases together?

Look at the stark contrast between him and FoxCastle
They BOTH suspect Durga
ONE; Is asking questions and refusing to answer them
THE OTHER; Is putting a case together
See the difference?

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav who is your scumteam?

It was Nepthys, but then he proved himself to be judge so right now

FoxCastle--Scum
Squigs--Town
Nepthys--Scum
et--Town
Durga--idk
Chippie--Town
Connor--Town
Percy--Scum
ND--idk
damo--idk
peter--idk
teacon--town

Wait what? Didn't you just say Neph is judge?

Oh my bad, yea change that too Nepthys--Town

[Durga]

Flav who is your scumteam?

It was Nepthys, but then he proved himself to be judge so right now

FoxCastle--Scum
Squigs--Town
Nepthys--Scum
et--Town
Durga--idk
Chippie--Town
Connor--Town
Percy--Scum
ND--idk
damo--idk
peter--idk
teacon--town

Wait what? Didn't you just say Neph is judge?

i'm baffled by this list. it's so baffling that he couldn't possibly be scummy? connor is town but damo is idk? i'm idk? neph is SCUM?

[teacon7]

flav I'm not asking because I'm challenging you. I want you to give us a concise set of reasons. Finish talking to Foxcastle first though.

[Squigs44]

It was Nepthys, but then he proved himself to be judge so right now

FoxCastle--Scum
Squigs--Town
Nepthys--Scum
et--Town
Durga--idk
Chippie--Town
Connor--Town
Percy--Scum
ND--idk
damo--idk
peter--idk
teacon--town

Wait what? Didn't you just say Neph is judge?

i'm baffled by this list. it's so baffling that he couldn't possibly be scummy? connor is town but damo is idk? i'm idk? neph is SCUM?

Flav is clearly the BA. Which means we need to convince him to have good scumreads.

[ND]

It was Nepthys, but then he proved himself to be judge so right now

FoxCastle--Scum
Squigs--Town
Nepthys--Scum
et--Town
Durga--idk
Chippie--Town
Connor--Town
Percy--Scum
ND--idk
damo--idk
peter--idk
teacon--town

Wait what? Didn't you just say Neph is judge?

Oh my bad, yea change that too Nepthys--Town

What an oopsie moment lol

[teacon7]

flav how far have you read?

connor and damo both claimed they were roleblocked last night. That can't possibly be true.

I know we're lynching fox or me today, but let's use the time to talk about other stuff too.

Who of damo/connor is more likely to be scum?
Do you think they're both scum and fakeclaiming?

[FlaviusAetius]

foxy you are really not doing a good job of convincing me that you are anything but scum when you attack me like that. at least engage with what i'm saying rather than just throw weird shade.

I've been getting weird shade from you for days now!

And I don't need to convince you I'm town. You know it already, don't you...

Explain why then?? You literally have done ZERO defense, all you do is attack those who dare disagree with you