Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[teacon7]

Because if there wasn't a possibility, then why would you be asking the question?
Or if you're going the other way, I do think there is a chance damo is Mafia.

I understand.

@conner - why did you wait until NOW to claim?
Were you aware that damo had claimed when you claimed?

on that - what do you mean there's a CHANCE? one of you is lying. the other one should 100% know that the other person is scum.

it's not an either/or. connor considered the possibility that damo was BA.

[Durga]

why would... BA fake claim rb? the only way they can die is being lynched and that's a really easy way to get lynched.

[damo666]

Pissed and 30pp behind.

Summary?

[Durga]

Pissed and 30pp behind.

Summary?

connor claimed roleblocked. thoughts?

[teacon7]

I already hard claimed scum. Stop this nonsense. Stop avoiding my question about damo/connor. It's so goddamn scummy.

hey! there's a phrase for what you just did there. wait... what do we call it? oh yeah...:

at least engage with what i'm saying rather than just throw weird shade.

Throwing weird shade! that's it. That's what you're doing to him right now.

You're not engaging with him or his argument. You're dismissing what he IS saying. He is trying to figure out the scumteam. Right now, he thinks you're on the scumteam. And you're trying to change the topic to connor/damo. I think that situation needs to be talked about (my pre-re-read says it's damo), but it's not like we can do anything about it rn. At present you're the one changing the subject. k?

k.

@foxcastle: i agree with you. of the two of damo/connor, which do you think is likely to be scum with xorx/balki/durga?

[Squigs44]

What?

Durga has said herself that she hates playing as scum because she can't pretend to solve. She likes when there are third parties though since she can still try to solve for who the third party is, so this point is a bit muted by that.

i probably can't properly read anyone in this game because everyone is scum hunting - 3rd party is scum hunting mafia and mafia is scum hunting 3rd party.

damn it i hate 3rd parties

Squigs, what do you think of the above contradiction?

That's not a contradiction at all.
3rd parties make the game easier for scum to blend since they can solve, and thus harder for town.

The first quote is scum Durga liking third parties, the second quote is town Durga hating third parties.

[ChippeRock]

You've owed me a real case for a couple days now. Why avoid the question now? Surely you've had time to formulate why you think I'm scum?

Don't take it personally Fox, she's been playing like this all game - which has been the focus of a lot of my messages...

[teacon7]

why would... BA fake claim rb? the only way they can die is being lynched and that's a really easy way to get lynched.

Funnily enough, that's what I said to connor. read the damn thread.

@connor -
-Where are you in re-reading? like... what page/phase?
-What do you think of damo?

I'm done now. I was only ten pages behind.
Something strange makes me think damo might not be town...
Whether he's BA or not, I doubt it. To claim RB when you know someone will eventually call you out on it is a very risky move for a Blind Assassin, especially if you are already suspected.

How could he be BA?

The BA wasn't rb'd at all. The kill on Balki went through.

Connor or damo might be scum, but neither are BA.

[Durga]

You've owed me a real case for a couple days now. Why avoid the question now? Surely you've had time to formulate why you think I'm scum?

Don't take it personally Fox, she's been playing like this all game - which has been the focus of a lot of my messages...

hey look you found a friend on the same wavelength as you fox. hope you enjoy that :)

[Foxcastle]

Durga has said herself that she hates playing as scum because she can't pretend to solve. She likes when there are third parties though since she can still try to solve for who the third party is, so this point is a bit muted by that.

i probably can't properly read anyone in this game because everyone is scum hunting - 3rd party is scum hunting mafia and mafia is scum hunting 3rd party.

damn it i hate 3rd parties

Squigs, what do you think of the above contradiction?

That's not a contradiction at all.
3rd parties make the game easier for scum to blend since they can solve, and thus harder for town.

The first quote is scum Durga liking third parties, the second quote is town Durga hating third parties.

Why did you quote scum-Durga in a town read then?

[Squigs44]

Why are the two most scumread people teaming up to attack the most townread person?

[Durga]

why would... BA fake claim rb? the only way they can die is being lynched and that's a really easy way to get lynched.

Funnily enough, that's what I said to connor. read the damn thread.

I'm done now. I was only ten pages behind.
Something strange makes me think damo might not be town...
Whether he's BA or not, I doubt it. To claim RB when you know someone will eventually call you out on it is a very risky move for a Blind Assassin, especially if you are already suspected.

How could he be BA?

The BA wasn't rb'd at all. The kill on Balki went through.

Connor or damo might be scum, but neither are BA.

you said it wasn't an either/or bc connor thought it was BA.... i responded. don't be a jerk about it. if you agree with me that it is an either/or then you should have stated that

[teacon7]

Why are the two most scumread people teaming up to attack the most townread person?

I for one figure that I'm going to die today. It's not like durga will swing today. So I'm going to spend the time coming up with a picture of the scumteam that makes sense. Town benefits, and the SK probably doesn't mind either.

@squiggs - did you have thoughts on my explanation of how balki played d3?

[Foxcastle]

Why are the two most scumread people teaming up to attack the most townread person?

Seems a little narrowminded to not at least be open to the idea that Durga was going for deep scum threat.

[Squigs44]

Squigs, what do you think of the above contradiction?

That's not a contradiction at all.
3rd parties make the game easier for scum to blend since they can solve, and thus harder for town.

The first quote is scum Durga liking third parties, the second quote is town Durga hating third parties.

Why did you quote scum-Durga in a town read then?

I was trying to display my full thought process. When I townread someone I don't turn a blind eye to the possibility of them still being scum.

[Foxcastle]

That's not a contradiction at all.
3rd parties make the game easier for scum to blend since they can solve, and thus harder for town.

The first quote is scum Durga liking third parties, the second quote is town Durga hating third parties.

Why did you quote scum-Durga in a town read then?

I was trying to display my full thought process. When I townread someone I don't turn a blind eye to the possibility of them still being scum.

Ah... I misread you then, you were saying "she likes it [as scum] when there are third parties". That was not how I initially parsed it.

[Durga]

Why are the two most scumread people teaming up to attack the most townread person?

scum needs a certain amount of mislynches and my play style is pretty controversial

[Squigs44]

Why are the two most scumread people teaming up to attack the most townread person?

I for one figure that I'm going to die today. It's not like durga will swing today. So I'm going to spend the time coming up with a picture of the scumteam that makes sense. Town benefits, and the SK probably doesn't mind either.

@squiggs - did you have thoughts on my explanation of how balki played d3?

We both started our analysis of Balkis D3 with the same disclaimer - he knew he was going to die, so what he did was tainted by wifom. I think your theory of Balki setting you (and/or Fox) up as a mislynch is just as possible as him being a scummate with you. Balkis play D3 should not be the basis of any case on your alignment or Fox's.

I plan on rereading you both after work and posting questions, focusing on non Balki wifom stuff.

[Foxcastle]

Honestly, "the two most scumread people" probably means we're both town.

[teacon7]

you said it wasn't an either/or bc connor thought it was BA.... i responded. don't be a jerk about it. if you agree with me that it is an either/or then you should have stated that

Sorry for that. I read about 90% of what you say as similarly "being a jerk" so it's tough to resist the urge to fire back. We're clearly on different wavelengths in life, which is why we're prone to scumreading each other on less evidence.

To clarify, I think damo/connor is an either/or town v scum because it makes about zero sense for the BA to claim roleblock after he clearly got a shot off.

(speculation: There's an outside chance that damo/connor are MvM, but I don't believe it as that's a) that's dumb, and b) that's the kind of bold move I wouldn't expect from either of them.)



That said, I still stand by my statement that Durga's d3 goals look very similar to Balki's: lynch xorx for cred, and set up misdirection for d4/d5 mislynches.