Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Foxcastle]

Ah, yeah, well, one of the two of them is. My bet is on Connor.

[Durga]

I'm not entertaining a garbage scum read on me atm. If you survive you can push it the next day.

Why Connor?

[Foxcastle]

I'm not entertaining a garbage scum read on me atm. If you survive you can push it the next day.

Why Connor?

Why not? You've had a garbage scum read on me all game? And look, there you are at the front of my wagon.

[Durga]

Please answer why you think Connor is more likely

[Foxcastle]

You've owed me a real case for a couple days now. Why avoid the question now? Surely you've had time to formulate why you think I'm scum?

[Durga]

You've owed me a real case for a couple days now. Why avoid the question now? Surely you've had time to formulate why you think I'm scum?

1. Anchored and lurked
2. I haven't seen you give input on who you scum read and why and haven't read anything that strikes me as particularly townie from you.

I deduce the scum team by finding town and ruling them out as scum. I've seen no indication that you're town.

[Durga]

Now stop avoiding my question and tell me why Connor.

[teacon7]

I'm *so* good as scum that rdr had a 99.98 percent town read on me >:)

Maybe, yeah. My personal theory is that if you and Balki landed scum together, you could use that existent relationship to get over some of the scumbling blocks that I think you hit when playing with scum that you're not as natural with.

Uh, that would have been fun but I too was fooled by our fake BA.

This is really lazy foxy. Pls come up with something real and less speculative. Tell me about my scummy behaviour.

you spent all day voting xorxes, but shading other players.
compare durga's d3 on xorx: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?us ... rt=d3&g=46
with her d3 talking about teacon: http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?us ... rt=d3&g=46

If we accept that xorx told his team to bus him, and use d3 to set up mislynches consider gems like this:

have xorxes and teacon acknowledged each other in this game?

i think teacon and xorxes are on the same team.

i think percy may or may not be on that team.

damo is probably scum, connor too, annnnnnnnnnnnd i have no idea who the last one is honestly. maybe its foxy knoxy

I feel pretty good about et as town for now. He's been really genuine with his reads - if y'all are gonna vote someone sus that isn't xorxes, I recommend teacon or Fox (I know I was initially against Fox but Damn he's actually scummy)

Teacon is providing fake!content but I still feel better about lynching xorxes

Look at this exchange:

My concern with teacon is I thought for sure he was scum last game and he ended up being town. He really just comes off as fake and manipulative.

Like...smarmy?

Let's not forget Balki also spent all of d3 shading me:

Also, for the record, I believe that Foxcastle and teacon are both mafia. But that’s not based on anything special. Just my reads. I have no reason to lie. If you guys lynch Town this phase, I lose right along with you.

Look at what Balki was doing. Bussing xorx, and setting up conditions for mislynches in the future. Think about what this means after his flip:

rdrivera, I don't think it's a good idea to keep Xorxes alive just because it was "too quiet." We have ND pushing ET, Damo pushing basically anyone but Xorxes, teacon pushing Foxy Knoxy. I mean...that's intense. I don't think you should expect six scum to joinm together and push a counterwagon. But this is about as much subtle Xorx defending as you would expect if he is scum. And nobody is actually defending him (also what you would expect). They are just pushing other wagons.

He said this, knowing that he was going to die n3. He said "don't try to save xorx, don't start other wagons. you guys will mislynch damo and teacon d4."



Look at this. What is Balki actually saying? He's trying to create subconscious links between me and xorx. But he never once votes me, because he knows he'll die n3 and flip as scum.

I don't care too much. I have both teacon and Xorxes on just about every full scum team I can come up with. But I want to make sure Town/BA is voting together here because splitting votes makes shenanigans much easier during a phase where a Mislynch is a disaster. This is especially true where scum has a secretary who could coordinate some mischief.

Should I stay on Xorx or change to teacon? I have to go in 2 minutes.

Yes indeed Balki. Why didn't you change to me? He wasn't going to get townread ever again.

..........



Meanwhile, let's talk about manipulative.

My concern with teacon is I thought for sure he was scum last game and he ended up being town. He really just comes off as fake and manipulative.

So.... Really durga? Who was being fake and manipulative d3? Balki for certain. Can you see why I'm skeptical of the shade I got from you d3 also? Durga and Balki played d3 more or less the same way.

LOL WHY DID HE PLAY THE LAST DAY SO PRO-TOWN
I'm fucking dead

Why was his game so towny? I don't think it was at all.

[Foxcastle]

I kinda hope you're town now, Teacon. This is more fun than re-reading ND.

[Foxcastle]

You've owed me a real case for a couple days now. Why avoid the question now? Surely you've had time to formulate why you think I'm scum?

1. Anchored and lurked
2. I haven't seen you give input on who you scum read and why and haven't read anything that strikes me as particularly townie from you.

I deduce the scum team by finding town and ruling them out as scum. I've seen no indication that you're town.

Weak, and recycled anyway. The lurking thing is utter nonsense.

And then contradictory. You've been shading me as scum the whole game, and now you're trying to pivot to claiming you haven't seen anything townie from me as the basis?

[peterlund]

Too bad ...

c) I was not shading rdriv. I was trying to solve the game. I considered an alternate possibility to explain the events we knew. I showed my work, and explained my final conclusion: having considered it all, it is most probable that rdrivera was town and telling the truth.

You were distracting town at that time with this ludicrous theory. This kind of distraction is very anti-town unless you have really good reasons to present that kind of theories. My feeling reading you is that you all game has been more interested in presenting odd theories, and not cared much how this possibly would negatively affect/distract town.

[Durga]

You've owed me a real case for a couple days now. Why avoid the question now? Surely you've had time to formulate why you think I'm scum?

1. Anchored and lurked
2. I haven't seen you give input on who you scum read and why and haven't read anything that strikes me as particularly townie from you.

I deduce the scum team by finding town and ruling them out as scum. I've seen no indication that you're town.

Weak, and recycled anyway. The lurking thing is utter nonsense.

And then contradictory. You've been shading me as scum the whole game, and now you're trying to pivot to claiming you haven't seen anything townie from me as the basis?

I don't understand this. Is it supposed to be contradictory?

[Durga]

Too bad ...

c) I was not shading rdriv. I was trying to solve the game. I considered an alternate possibility to explain the events we knew. I showed my work, and explained my final conclusion: having considered it all, it is most probable that rdrivera was town and telling the truth.

You were distracting town at that time with this ludicrous theory. This kind of distraction is very anti-town unless you have really good reasons to present that kind of theories. My feeling reading you is that you all game has been more interested in presenting odd theories, and not cared much how this possibly would negatively affect/distract town.

He continuously distracts town and scum reads people with no real basis. That's what makes Teacon so hard to read because he wastes time as town too.

[Foxcastle]

@Durga, so, did you actually think that mafia might have day chat in this game? Did you read that some place, or just say that generally without any particular background?

Also, @Flavius, I do want to know where you are getting your #balkibackground. Have we met? Sorry if I am forgetting you (or anyone else). There are just so many of all of you, and only one of me.

i said it generally without looking at the set up. i don't look at set ups. it's the kind of weird comment that i don't know where he would get from unless someone explicitly told him that you're smart and whatever. i don't remember someone saying that in the sign up thread although i didn't read most of it.

looking at the set up now, i don't think i properly understand the secretary. is this an encryptor? in which case, i imagine someone told flav this and he's v likely scum

I just read the set up. Mafia is op. How is there a janitor, an assassin, a lawyer AND a framer? And the 3rd party shows up as innocent? Our cop is so useless. We have so many useless roles. And 3 possible town kills a night? Wtf rip

Did you forget you'd read the setup?

[Durga]

Alright, for everyone's sake I'm going to put this here:

Durga - Durga is 99.99% confirmed town, the 0.01% possibility isn't even worth discussing, so follow her lead.

So seriously. Listen to the dead town every now and then.


And teacon, in the event you are town, you really need to stop picking a player to read as scum and then trying to find scummy things about x player. You'll do much better if you look for townie instances than for scummy instances.

And btw you're doing the thing you did last game where you're picking not scummy things and calling them scummy.

But I digress. If you'd like, I hard claim scum. Now go find my team.

[Durga]

I don't think town!foxy pushes me here. Teacon is easily influenced and manipulated so I can see him going down a rabbit hole.

[Foxcastle]

I don't think town!foxy pushes me here. Teacon is easily influenced and manipulated so I can see him going down a rabbit hole.

I've got time to get around to others. But I started with you and Squigs and ND. And you're the one that seemed to have some off things.

[Foxcastle]

I don't think town!foxy pushes me here. Teacon is easily influenced and manipulated so I can see him going down a rabbit hole.

I've got time to get around to others. But I started with you and Squigs and ND. And you're the one that seemed to have some off things.

Huh, a little pressure and you forget we have more than 24 hours?

[Durga]

I don't think town!foxy pushes me here. Teacon is easily influenced and manipulated so I can see him going down a rabbit hole.

I've got time to get around to others. But I started with you and Squigs and ND. And you're the one that seemed to have some off things.

you should at least pretend to factor in what dead confirmed town have said about me if you're town. teacon will easily scum read obv town but i expect better from you.

and in the event i am scum, i think everyone will get sus that i'm alive till the end game. so i wouldn't worry about me. i never survive a 3 person lylo in this scenario.

[Durga]

foxy you are really not doing a good job of convincing me that you are anything but scum when you attack me like that. at least engage with what i'm saying rather than just throw weird shade.