Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[teacon7]

Im not saying scum dont lurk, I just didnt think it would get us a scum, we are just taking shots in the dark when it comes to lurkers, which is WHY I said we need to make them talk and so far the only lurker whose talking now is teacon

Flav, Xorxes made 112 posts. It wasn't a shot in the dark at all. You're obsession over defending lurkers is quite strange.

Ok but 112 posts in this game literally means nothing Im pretty sure I did more than that in ONE day
Ontop of that, I didnt say dont kill lurkers, I just said probably not a smart idea when we can easily lynch someone we have a lot of info on aka FoxCastle Im already on page 50 of his posts, not looking too positive for him

I agree with you on fox.

People's posting ability probably correlates to their IRL availability though. It's not like a bigger game makes people more available to post. It makes it harder to parse.

I have a feeling there's a lot of info from xorx' flip. From my perspective, his first post about me and subsequent avoiding makes a LOT more sense now.

@flav when you were scum, did you bus people?

[FlaviusAetius]

Can you stop FoxCastle, Im not bad at this game ok, I could handle it
Im tired of people undermining everything I say by 'oh he's a noob'
Use actual logic to explain things not just me being a noob, cause Im not

Now Im going to finish your ISO and dont even think for a second viewing me as town will let me stop suspecting you

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav, Xorxes made 112 posts. It wasn't a shot in the dark at all. You're obsession over defending lurkers is quite strange.

Ok but 112 posts in this game literally means nothing Im pretty sure I did more than that in ONE day
Ontop of that, I didnt say dont kill lurkers, I just said probably not a smart idea when we can easily lynch someone we have a lot of info on aka FoxCastle Im already on page 50 of his posts, not looking too positive for him

I agree with you on fox.

People's posting ability probably correlates to their IRL availability though. It's not like a bigger game makes people more available to post. It makes it harder to parse.

I have a feeling there's a lot of info from xorx' flip. From my perspective, his first post about me and subsequent avoiding makes a LOT more sense now.

@flav when you were scum, did you bus people?

I dont remember??

[Durga]

Ayyyyyyyyyyy

[peterlund]

Apparently it was Xorxes who told Flav you were clever Balki

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav, Xorxes made 112 posts. It wasn't a shot in the dark at all. You're obsession over defending lurkers is quite strange.

Ok but 112 posts in this game literally means nothing Im pretty sure I did more than that in ONE day
Ontop of that, I didnt say dont kill lurkers, I just said probably not a smart idea when we can easily lynch someone we have a lot of info on aka FoxCastle Im already on page 50 of his posts, not looking too positive for him

I agree with you on fox.

People's posting ability probably correlates to their IRL availability though. It's not like a bigger game makes people more available to post. It makes it harder to parse.

I have a feeling there's a lot of info from xorx' flip. From my perspective, his first post about me and subsequent avoiding makes a LOT more sense now.

@flav when you were scum, did you bus people?

Also THANK YOU
That makes me, you and chippie, you guys need to get on this wagon, we are lynching him tomorrow and Im available all day tomorrow and the next, so you better believe Im pushing it

[teacon7]

[snip]

Flavius and teacon being so scummy is kind of awkard for me given last game. @teacon, what's your take on Flavius? @Flavius, what's your take on teacon?

Hm. Would Xorxes call out two of his scummates and ask them to interact? That's putting a lot of trust in them both that he doesn't seem to have given the "last game" he mentions... Or would he know that his scummate Teacon could handle it and town-Flavius might get himself into trouble?

This really undermines my scumread of Flavius.

I have like 30 pages to catch up. I'm assuming you all lynched Percy and he flipped scum, or you lynched some other scum, right? Sigh...

Before anyone asks: I can't be here for EODs. I'm at work at that time and usually don't even have time to check what's going on from my phone.

He knows Percy's alignment. Does he really risk "calling it" before he's even read the thread? That's very conspicuous. I think this is a point in favor of Percy being town.

Okay actually I'm not so confident on fox anymore. I need to RR the guy in light of new evidence.

@fox - xorx RR is going to be full of wifom. It's worth reading, I just... don't expect much. Do you think xorx was trying to instigate? I'm guessing he spent more time directing his team on what to do. There's a a greater chance to find someone slip info they shouldn't know, like being coached. I'm thinking of the flav/et/connor group especially.

[teacon7]

@flav when you were scum, did you bus people?

I dont remember??

Well... go back and remember. Would scum!you vote for someone on your own team? under what conditions?

[Foxcastle]

Can you stop FoxCastle, Im not bad at this game ok, I could handle it
Im tired of people undermining everything I say by 'oh he's a noob'
Use actual logic to explain things not just me being a noob, cause Im not

Now Im going to finish your ISO and dont even think for a second viewing me as town will let me stop suspecting you

I didn't say you were a noob. I didn't say you couldn't handle it. But you have demonstrated in this game alone that you're volatile.

[teacon7]

Also THANK YOU
That makes me, you and chippie, you guys need to get on this wagon, we are lynching him tomorrow and Im available all day tomorrow and the next, so you better believe Im pushing it

fwiw flav, I don't think single-minded pushing is a good idea. Even if you're right, we need to figure out whole scumteams, rather than simply act on one person we suspect. Make your case on foxcastle. Then try to figure out who else makes sense as being scum with xorx. That's going to be more beneficial in the long run.

[Squigs44]

Im not saying scum dont lurk, I just didnt think it would get us a scum, we are just taking shots in the dark when it comes to lurkers, which is WHY I said we need to make them talk and so far the only lurker whose talking now is teacon

Flav, Xorxes made 112 posts. It wasn't a shot in the dark at all. You're obsession over defending lurkers is quite strange.

Ok but 112 posts in this game literally means nothing Im pretty sure I did more than that in ONE day
Ontop of that, I didnt say dont kill lurkers, I just said probably not a smart idea when we can easily lynch someone we have a lot of info on aka FoxCastle Im already on page 50 of his posts, not looking too positive for him

Actually, you did say to not kill lurkers D3. The info on Xorxes was more condemning than the info on Fox for me, simple as that. Killing Xorxes was not, as you said, "a shot in the dark".

[Durga]

Great catching scum Xorx team!

I was just not going to follow Balki around ANYWHERE.

More disturbing was to see how Rdrivera (our "reporter" claimant) was following Balki around at EoD.

I think I need to do some rethinking...

This post is scummy but it's also peterlund so I don't know

[teacon7]

@durga what's up? is that all you have to say? "ayyy?"

[FlaviusAetius]

@flav when you were scum, did you bus people?

I dont remember??

Well... go back and remember. Would scum!you vote for someone on your own team? under what conditions?

Just went back apparently yes, I did bus xorxes in M45, here was my reason;
I will be voting xorxes too, if brainbomb turned up town, he was my next one, just too suspicious such a great player not being killed at night
##vote xorxes
We've never killed someone all of us just hopping on someone like this before...
I hope its a good idea, Im sure there will be some discussion for someone else...
WE NEED to get the right person here today

[Percy Williams]

Great catching scum Xorx team!

I was just not going to follow Balki around ANYWHERE.

More disturbing was to see how Rdrivera (our "reporter" claimant) was following Balki around at EoD.

I think I need to do some rethinking...

This post is scummy but it's also peterlund so I don't know

What are the legends around the peterlund?
Aside from the Bot which I assume is attributed to his name, I have no Idea what to expect from who I hope is the paragon of mafia players. Unless he got scum.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Hooker almost certainly stayed home on Night 1 to avoid a reporter scan. There would have been no reason to Role Block Carl or Darg because there were no Town powers that would have been useful. They made the judgment that it was better to avoid detection, and to use the RB to get town credit for Xorxes.

[Balki Bartokomous]

That means Fox could be Hooker. Fox is cleared from being Assassin, but he could be Framer, Lawyer, Janitor, or Hooker.

[ND]

Time to mine Xorxes for connections and start piecing this together boys. We can do this.

[peterlund]

Great catching scum Xorx team!

I was just not going to follow Balki around ANYWHERE.

More disturbing was to see how Rdrivera (our "reporter" claimant) was following Balki around at EoD.

I think I need to do some rethinking...

This post is scummy but it's also peterlund so I don't know

No it is not scummy at all.

Lets consider the statistics.

These were the PRs in action Night 2
2. Hooker
3. Blind Assassin
4. Assassin
5. Lawyer
6. Janitor
7. Framer
8. Cop - Died that Night 2
9. Reporter

What do we know? First thing D3 Rdriv claims reporter saying that Balki was "out".

We have:
1 BA
5 Scum PRs
1 Cop that died
1 Reporter

If we believe Rdriv's claim he had one chance in 6 to pick the BA, since all scum PRs had a reasons to be "out".

What happened? Balki claimed BA. (of course he would, no surprise there)

And now you and Rdriv believe Balki?; because there has been no BA CC? Really??

Unless the real BA would be in a risk of being lynched he would never CC Balki's claim. Instead he/she would just kill Balki next night and stay hidden.

Only, in case Balki survives this night I will be forced to start believing Balki's claim, but not a second before that. The chance of scanning the BA was only 1 in 6.

The odd thing is that Rdriv despite these poor odds was "following Balki around".

[Squigs44]

Great catching scum Xorx team!

I was just not going to follow Balki around ANYWHERE.

More disturbing was to see how Rdrivera (our "reporter" claimant) was following Balki around at EoD.

I think I need to do some rethinking...

This post is scummy but it's also peterlund so I don't know

No it is not scummy at all.

Lets consider the statistics.

These were the PRs in action Night 2
2. Hooker
3. Blind Assassin
4. Assassin
5. Lawyer
6. Janitor
7. Framer
8. Cop - Died that Night 2
9. Reporter

What do we know? First thing D3 Rdriv claims reporter saying that Balki was "out".

We have:
1 BA
5 Scum PRs
1 Cop that died
1 Reporter

If we believe Rdriv's claim he had one chance in 6 to pick the BA, since all scum PRs had a reasons to be "out".

What happened? Balki claimed BA. (of course he would, no surprise there)

And now you and Rdriv believe Balki?; because there has been no BA CC? Really??

Unless the real BA would be in a risk of being lynched he would never CC Balki's claim. Instead he/she would just kill Balki next night and stay hidden.

Only, in case Balki survives this night I will be forced to start believing Balki's claim, but not a second before that. The chance of scanning the BA was only 1 in 6.

The odd thing is that Rdriv despite these poor odds was "following Balki around".

Did you miss the part where Balki claimed a scan on Neph and Neph confirmed it?