Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[ChippeRock]

Why is there four and a half hours left in the Day and we have 2 votes for policy lynches?? Peterlund, et, unless either of you have reason to believe your votes are for scum , you need to move your votes!

[et]

Why is there four and a half hours left in the Day and we have 2 votes for policy lynches?? Peterlund, et, unless either of you have reason to believe your votes are for scum , you need to move your votes!

I am thinking that. My vote for connorcompton is for forcing to post connorcompton.
But I think he don't post. So I ask GM.

[et]

And sure, I will move vote to ND.
But at least ND joins this game.
I pay my respect to ND in that point.

[teacon7]

I wanted to force people to think about those the hadn't and I personally was suspect of both.

Other fun people I considered were rdr and Balki. Just shows how bad my early game was.

Okay but et and espresso were... not heavy posters. It's essentially forcing us to policy lynch.
Even after we reread them, what were we supposed to gain from this?
Did you gain anything from the voting patterns here?

Yes. it was interesting to force the scum to play my game for a change.

I think it interesting that my first scumteam read 5 were voting espresso.

Okay but that's only useful information if the wagons were MvT, which we won't know unless et flips scum. Until then, it's still just speculative, because that could just as easily have been TvT. Did you think both were scum when you "judged" them? Why?

[teacon7]

I had read Tom as Town at Night2. Before Tom died.

@et why did you tell us this? What were you trying to prove?

[teacon7]

I feel pretty good about et as town for now. He's been really genuine with his reads - if y'all are gonna vote someone sus that isn't xorxes, I recommend teacon or Fox (I know I was initially against Fox but Damn he's actually scummy)

Could you please elaborate on why you think fox is actually scummy? why were you against it and why are you now for him as an option?

His disappearance and anchor post is so on point for him being scum

oh ffs durga. I went to sleep.
Why won't you answer the question?

[et]

I had read Tom as Town at Night2. Before Tom died.

@et why did you tell us this? What were you trying to prove?

That was reply to ND.
ND ask me why you said that after Tom died.

[ND]

Lol oh God this guy is scum. I wish there was a way I could vote ET harder

[et]

Lol oh God this guy is scum. I wish there was a way I could vote ET harder

Why? Chippe said so?
Can you think yourself?
Do you have brain?

[et]

I am irritated by lurkers.
But also ND's cheap and aggressive play.

[Durga]

Could you please elaborate on why you think fox is actually scummy? why were you against it and why are you now for him as an option?

His disappearance and anchor post is so on point for him being scum

oh ffs durga. I went to sleep.
Why won't you answer the question?

What... I did... I'm talking about Fox

[Foxcastle]

His disappearance and anchor post is so on point for him being scum

oh ffs durga. I went to sleep.
Why won't you answer the question?

What... I did... I'm talking about Fox

Yes, I "disappeared" because I went to bed.

[ND]

Dude is nuts I said et was scum well before chip in my part 1 iso d2. Ugh.

[teacon7]

Tom was a target because he was very heavily town read.

I mean, sure. scum do kill for those reasons.

Except... really? Weren't people saying things like "tom is acting weird" and "this isn't like tom" and "we need to reread tom" ? Did he suddenly get townread while I was in california?

Every scumteam I've ever been a part of has always prioritized PR hunting. I can't say whether that's good play or not, but especially with a 3rd party (who is likely hunting scum) it seems like it makes sense for them to hunt for PR.

I'm not, by saying things like this, trying to push rdriv or anything. having traced the lines of what might or might not have happened, it seems really really unlikely that rdriv would fake claim. He's smart enough to pull it off, but also smart enough to know it's a bad plan. scum plans never go off as well as the tinfoil required to make this kind of silly plan work. so... unless you have thoughts on this, I'm prepared to leave it.

Naw, the meta has changed. You kill off good/townie players and the whole town falls apart. No one cares about these PR's, in this game they're pretty weak anyway

a) does everyone agree with her on this? I'm not in a position to know as I haven't played scum since like m20-something.
b) I agree that our PR are weaker here - we knew coming into this that it was a maf-sided setup, and the bailiff dying doesn't help. Do you think scum would hunt for the BA though?

[et]

Dude is nuts I said et was scum well before chip in my part 1 iso d2. Ugh.

I know such a thing.
I read posts. That is deference from you.

[teacon7]

Hot take - Balki and xorxes are town since scum likely shot someone was strongly acting as VT rather than PR and those two would definitely be shooting for PR N1.

Boom. In tinfoil land, Tom is the Reporter and crumbed in this post.

I still don't believe rdriv do this - a) why would scum sacrifice a widely townread player for the sake of a fake claim? b) scum is close to winning anyway, why bother fake claiming here?

I am starting to want to lynch you as you are actively tryng to derail the thread and get Chippe (and others) to get into paranoia mode.
I usually don't crumb, but in my first post I asked to town what's the News.

rdriv I don't think running down different ideas or checking our math is a bad idea. Is it derailing the thread to say "I thought about this alternate possibility, and it seems like we're still on the right track" ?

[et]

I mean, sure. scum do kill for those reasons.

Except... really? Weren't people saying things like "tom is acting weird" and "this isn't like tom" and "we need to reread tom" ? Did he suddenly get townread while I was in california?

Every scumteam I've ever been a part of has always prioritized PR hunting. I can't say whether that's good play or not, but especially with a 3rd party (who is likely hunting scum) it seems like it makes sense for them to hunt for PR.

I'm not, by saying things like this, trying to push rdriv or anything. having traced the lines of what might or might not have happened, it seems really really unlikely that rdriv would fake claim. He's smart enough to pull it off, but also smart enough to know it's a bad plan. scum plans never go off as well as the tinfoil required to make this kind of silly plan work. so... unless you have thoughts on this, I'm prepared to leave it.

Naw, the meta has changed. You kill off good/townie players and the whole town falls apart. No one cares about these PR's, in this game they're pretty weak anyway

a) does everyone agree with her on this? I'm not in a position to know as I haven't played scum since like m20-something.
b) I agree that our PR are weaker here - we knew coming into this that it was a maf-sided setup, and the bailiff dying doesn't help. Do you think scum would hunt for the BA though?

a) I agree after Tom died. Tom is most towny person at Night2. I have no idea scum thought Tom is PR or not.
b)That is possible.
Why do you ask it?

[damo666]

I have a feeling Balki is faking BA and is really scum but it is no matter as in which case he is NK'd tonight. I think the way Flav is floundering in a panic stricken way is scum indicative and supports my scum Balki hypothesis.

I believe Neph=Judge and rdr=Reporter. Little point doing otherwise.

I strongly townread Durga and Squigs. I think et's recent posts are very townie.

I think the Xorxes wagon a bit silly. He has un cc'd RB claim day 1 and would be fatal blow if he is town.

Of the others I am arbitrarily putting connor in the SK spot due to his lack of engagement.

So the other 4 scum in addition to Balki and Flav are therefore in the rest which are in order of most scummy to least scummy

Teacon
Percy
Chips
Fox
Peter
ND

My vote remains on Flav for the time being but if no viable wagon develops I am willing to switch to any of those 6 gaining traction.

I will be here at EOD.

If anybody can provide me with good reason to eliminate any of these 6 from my scum pool please do tell.

PS Of course you could swap any of the 6 with connor for SK.

[Foxcastle]

Damo's immediately preceding post strikes me as scummy.

[Foxcastle]

Durga, your read of me is shifting towards scum at a steady pace. Do you still think my lynch should be off the table today?