Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[ND]

"I feel Fox and teacon are also probably scum. Nephthys falls in just behind them. I'm less sure about the rest, but rdrivera and damo seem like they're deserving of trying to pull more from. I haven't had the opportunity to do a deep dive after D2." (TrPrado, 164)

If you look at that as a scum order from most likely to least he has: Fox, Teacon, Neph, rd, Damo.

If you look at his first vote after N1 on page 101 it's for Fox. (TrPrado, 101)

It looks like this he starts D2 voting Fox and holds that read as the most important in his final post on page 164. So, kind of vague, but him having a scan on Fox makes sense. He begins the day with a vote on Fox and ends the night holding that position. No change indicates a result in my mind.

I don't think Balki should be an option if he is claiming BA, at least not today, simply because we need him to stand a chance now. That's the position we are in.

I think Fox is a good candidate based on what I'm seeing from TrPrado

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

[Squigs44]

Just took a glorious 4 hour nap. Fwiw, I don't believe Balkis claim and I think he is mafia. But it's really not worth lynching him since the real BA will kill him tonight. I think we have to lynch elsewhere and try to hit mafia.
I'm really confused by Balkis claim that he thinks he scanned a town PR N1. What he has claimed doesn't fit with optimal BA play. BA should scan people they scumread. Also the fact that he thinks he should claim it at EoN doesn't make sense. Why then?

[ChippeRock]

I change my mind

@Balki - please reveal your PR

Horrible idea. If it's Judge, we're basically fucked because we need that Judge to use his power one last time tomorrow.

Naw we don't judge sux. And it's fine. They'd have to kill the judge for that to not happen, but they only have 2 actions between rdr, Balki, and the judge. And they can't kill Balki, who can essentially function as a cop. So they have to roleblock Balki no matter what, which means they have to kill between rdr and the judge. and obviously rdr is better than the judge.

No, Judge is more influential in lynching scum than rdr - they would kill the Judge.

[FlaviusAetius]

Just took a glorious 4 hour nap. Fwiw, I don't believe Balkis claim and I think he is mafia. But it's really not worth lynching him since the real BA will kill him tonight. I think we have to lynch elsewhere and try to hit mafia.
I'm really confused by Balkis claim that he thinks he scanned a town PR N1. What he has claimed doesn't fit with optimal BA play. BA should scan people they scumread. Also the fact that he thinks he should claim it at EoN doesn't make sense. Why then?

See at least Squigs believes me
Im voting for FoxCastle and I dont care what you say Fox yes you have been reading me or at least pushing me ever since I dared to mention your precious name
##vote Fox
Again, Balki isnt a scum, but he sure as heck isnt BA

[Durga]

Yeah I think he has to claim it today and then we can verify it

[Foxcastle]

"I feel Fox and teacon are also probably scum. Nephthys falls in just behind them. I'm less sure about the rest, but rdrivera and damo seem like they're deserving of trying to pull more from. I haven't had the opportunity to do a deep dive after D2." (TrPrado, 164)

If you look at that as a scum order from most likely to least he has: Fox, Teacon, Neph, rd, Damo.

If you look at his first vote after N1 on page 101 it's for Fox. (TrPrado, 101)

It looks like this he starts D2 voting Fox and holds that read as the most important in his final post on page 164. So, kind of vague, but him having a scan on Fox makes sense. He begins the day with a vote on Fox and ends the night holding that position. No change indicates a result in my mind.

I don't think Balki should be an option if he is claiming BA, at least not today, simply because we need him to stand a chance now. That's the position we are in.

I think Fox is a good candidate based on what I'm seeing from TrPrado

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

Is this because you believe TrPrado had a guilty scan on me (because that doesn't compute, you'd think he'd have put me out front separate from Teacon with more emphasis than "feeling" if so) or because you're sheeping TrPrado because we now know his alignment (he was still wrong).

[FlaviusAetius]

Horrible idea. If it's Judge, we're basically fucked because we need that Judge to use his power one last time tomorrow.

Naw we don't judge sux. And it's fine. They'd have to kill the judge for that to not happen, but they only have 2 actions between rdr, Balki, and the judge. And they can't kill Balki, who can essentially function as a cop. So they have to roleblock Balki no matter what, which means they have to kill between rdr and the judge. and obviously rdr is better than the judge.

No, Judge is more influential in lynching scum than rdr - they would kill the Judge.

Please stop asking people to roleclaim SO EARLY IN THE DAY IT MAKES NO SENSE

[Foxcastle]

Just took a glorious 4 hour nap. Fwiw, I don't believe Balkis claim and I think he is mafia. But it's really not worth lynching him since the real BA will kill him tonight. I think we have to lynch elsewhere and try to hit mafia.
I'm really confused by Balkis claim that he thinks he scanned a town PR N1. What he has claimed doesn't fit with optimal BA play. BA should scan people they scumread. Also the fact that he thinks he should claim it at EoN doesn't make sense. Why then?

See at least Squigs believes me
Im voting for FoxCastle and I dont care what you say Fox yes you have been reading me or at least pushing me ever since I dared to mention your precious name
##vote Fox
Again, Balki isnt a scum, but he sure as heck isnt BA

Why are you lying about something that's super easy to verify?

[ChippeRock]

Just took a glorious 4 hour nap. Fwiw, I don't believe Balkis claim and I think he is mafia. But it's really not worth lynching him since the real BA will kill him tonight. I think we have to lynch elsewhere and try to hit mafia.
I'm really confused by Balkis claim that he thinks he scanned a town PR N1. What he has claimed doesn't fit with optimal BA play. BA should scan people they scumread. Also the fact that he thinks he should claim it at EoN doesn't make sense. Why then?

That's a very good point! If he's Mafia, he's dead. If he's BA, than he's not lying to us. Since I was already leaning towards Fox as my top scumread, and this has made me realize that Balki will be dead if he's lying (so it doesn't matter too much why he killed TrPrado), I will ##VOTE Foxcastle.

[FlaviusAetius]

I'm winding down for the night and not following any of this closely, but is Flav having a meltdown or something?

Are you serious?
Of course Im not having a meltdown, Im just mad that no one even cares to listen to what I have to say I feel like Im being skipped over for no reason

[Foxcastle]

And my name is precious. Thank you for recognizing that.

[Squigs44]

Just took a glorious 4 hour nap. Fwiw, I don't believe Balkis claim and I think he is mafia. But it's really not worth lynching him since the real BA will kill him tonight. I think we have to lynch elsewhere and try to hit mafia.
I'm really confused by Balkis claim that he thinks he scanned a town PR N1. What he has claimed doesn't fit with optimal BA play. BA should scan people they scumread. Also the fact that he thinks he should claim it at EoN doesn't make sense. Why then?

See at least Squigs believes me
Im voting for FoxCastle and I dont care what you say Fox yes you have been reading me or at least pushing me ever since I dared to mention your precious name
##vote Fox
Again, Balki isnt a scum, but he sure as heck isnt BA

No I think Balki is scum. Also I don't think Fox is scum.

[Durga]

Again, Balki isnt a scum, but he sure as heck isnt BA

Flav, WHAT? He has to be one or the other. He's not even claiming to be town, wtf are you saying

[ND]

"I feel Fox and teacon are also probably scum. Nephthys falls in just behind them. I'm less sure about the rest, but rdrivera and damo seem like they're deserving of trying to pull more from. I haven't had the opportunity to do a deep dive after D2." (TrPrado, 164)

If you look at that as a scum order from most likely to least he has: Fox, Teacon, Neph, rd, Damo.

If you look at his first vote after N1 on page 101 it's for Fox. (TrPrado, 101)

It looks like this he starts D2 voting Fox and holds that read as the most important in his final post on page 164. So, kind of vague, but him having a scan on Fox makes sense. He begins the day with a vote on Fox and ends the night holding that position. No change indicates a result in my mind.

I don't think Balki should be an option if he is claiming BA, at least not today, simply because we need him to stand a chance now. That's the position we are in.

I think Fox is a good candidate based on what I'm seeing from TrPrado

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

Is this because you believe TrPrado had a guilty scan on me (because that doesn't compute, you'd think he'd have put me out front separate from Teacon with more emphasis than "feeling" if so) or because you're sheeping TrPrado because we now know his alignment (he was still wrong).

Well you explain why he starts the day voting for you then lists you first in his final post of scum suspects? I don't really see what other leads we have to go on. Are you going to tell me objectively a no change like that after 60+ pages doesn't indicate a scan result? TrPrado isn't some noob I'm confident he knows how to order a read list in the event he gets a information type role.

[Durga]

FoxCastle is not a good lynch today.

I can't tell if our townies suck or if mafia are just so good at manipulating the vote.

[Durga]

what if scum is like... ND - flav - Chippe - connor - peterlund - et

[ChippeRock]

Just took a glorious 4 hour nap. Fwiw, I don't believe Balkis claim and I think he is mafia. But it's really not worth lynching him since the real BA will kill him tonight. I think we have to lynch elsewhere and try to hit mafia.
I'm really confused by Balkis claim that he thinks he scanned a town PR N1. What he has claimed doesn't fit with optimal BA play. BA should scan people they scumread. Also the fact that he thinks he should claim it at EoN doesn't make sense. Why then?

See at least Squigs believes me
Im voting for FoxCastle and I dont care what you say Fox yes you have been reading me or at least pushing me ever since I dared to mention your precious name
##vote Fox
Again, Balki isnt a scum, but he sure as heck isnt BA

Why are you lying about something that's super easy to verify?

He only mentions you two times with regards to his reads (and only references "Fox" 8 times), and here are his only two mentions of you in reads (please note they are both very early into Day 1):

@Squigs My dad does this all the time.
MISTAKES DO NOT EQUAL LIES.
I clearly thought you thought that foxcastle was scum, you don't have to jump to conclusions and just call me a liar. Obviously, you could check that real quick, anyone could why even just call me a liar like that?

Anyways I also agree foxcastle is a townsperson
TrPrado, on the other hand, is probably scum

Squigs-Town
Foxcastle-Town
Balki-Mafia
TrPardo-Mafia
Connor-Town
Percy-Mafia
darg-Town
Carl Tuckerson-Mafia
et-Mafia
Moscow-Mafia
Nepthys-Mafia

Please note though, I still think you (Foxcastle) are the most likely to flip scum, but I am willing to switch over to Flav's wagon if that what it takes to lynch scum.

[FlaviusAetius]

Again, Balki isnt a scum, but he sure as heck isnt BA

Flav, WHAT? He has to be one or the other. He's not even claiming to be town, wtf are you saying

What do you mean he has to be one or the other LOL?
What if rdrivera is lying? Ever thought of that??
Goodness gracious
Why would rdrivera all of a sudden reveal Balki and Balki a lone?
Why would he do it so early in the day?
Does any of this add up for you? Balki is town and its obvious

[ND]

FoxCastle is not a good lynch today.

I can't tell if our townies suck or if mafia are just so good at manipulating the vote.

Why isn't Fox a good lynch today?

[Durga]

Again, Balki isnt a scum, but he sure as heck isnt BA

Flav, WHAT? He has to be one or the other. He's not even claiming to be town, wtf are you saying

What do you mean he has to be one or the other LOL?
What if rdrivera is lying? Ever thought of that??
Goodness gracious
Why would rdrivera all of a sudden reveal Balki and Balki a lone?
Why would he do it so early in the day?
Does any of this add up for you? Balki is town and its obvious

FLAV. BALKI ADMITTED TO NOT BEING TOWN. HE SAID HE'S THE BLIND ASSASSIN.