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Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

#2321 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:25 am

I’ll put “look at rdrivera” on my to do list, but I seriously doubt that I would vote to lynch him today. He is one of the strongest “pretty sure he’s Town” shortcuts in my head.

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Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

#2322 Post by ChippeRock » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:26 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:23 am
Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:19 am
I GENUINELY think this is another case of town being really loud and talkative and mafia just lurking their way to victory
Should we just lynch Moscow?
No, not necessarily. This is exceedingly abnormal behavior (as I detailed in a previous post of mine) for him scum and town.

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#2323 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:27 am

Shortcuts good enough for now. I know the feeling of town reading someone for something and the specifics going away thereafter.

I know he voted bozo but it was framed as more a townread of Flav

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#2324 Post by Durga » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:28 am

Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:25 am
I’ll put “look at rdrivera” on my to do list, but I seriously doubt that I would vote to lynch him today. He is one of the strongest “pretty sure he’s Town” shortcuts in my head.
wait what are your updated thoughts on teacon, you were scum reading him before

rdr is a very strong scum player so watch out for that

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#2325 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:29 am

ChippeRock wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:26 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:23 am
Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:19 am
I GENUINELY think this is another case of town being really loud and talkative and mafia just lurking their way to victory
Should we just lynch Moscow?
No, not necessarily. This is exceedingly abnormal behavior (as I detailed in a previous post of mine) for him scum and town.
I wouldn’t put so much weight in meta. Situations are different. For example this deadline being earlier has changed the way I play almost certainly, which would change my “meta” Also Moscow said he was traveling I think that would change his meta. Sometimes changes in meta are for real reasons, not game related reasosn

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#2326 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:30 am

FYI, I’m taking a deposition tomorrow. I’m going to be mostly gone, and then super tired. Hoping we have a good dipole between a couple of scumbuckets when I return.

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#2327 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:31 am

I know Balki is a baller mafia player, so he could probably fake it, but his answer of townreadinf Rivera for reasons he can’t recall seems incredibly towny.

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#2328 Post by Durga » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:32 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:31 am
I know Balki is a baller mafia player, so he could probably fake it, but his answer of townreadinf Rivera for reasons he can’t recall seems incredibly towny.
balki is v townie, so are you tombomb

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#2329 Post by Balki Bartokomous » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:32 am

Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:28 am
Balki Bartokomous wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:25 am
I’ll put “look at rdrivera” on my to do list, but I seriously doubt that I would vote to lynch him today. He is one of the strongest “pretty sure he’s Town” shortcuts in my head.
wait what are your updated thoughts on teacon, you were scum reading him before

rdr is a very strong scum player so watch out for that
I don’t know about teacon. I thought he had some better moments later in the day. But also, I think those moments were less readable, as he already had some scrutiny. I’d say he’s still in my range of likely scum. But I should ISO him too. Seems like he’s been gone for a while.

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#2330 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:34 am

Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:32 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:31 am
I know Balki is a baller mafia player, so he could probably fake it, but his answer of townreadinf Rivera for reasons he can’t recall seems incredibly towny.
balki is v townie, so are you tombomb
Well, if all the good players are town we better win to save the embarrassment =P

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#2331 Post by Durga » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:37 am

Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:34 am
Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:32 am
Tom Bombadil wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:31 am
I know Balki is a baller mafia player, so he could probably fake it, but his answer of townreadinf Rivera for reasons he can’t recall seems incredibly towny.
balki is v townie, so are you tombomb
Well, if all the good players are town we better win to save the embarrassment =P
the issue is the amount of spam is making it v hard to properly analyse this game

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#2332 Post by Tom Bombadil » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:38 am

My request for you tomorrow Chippe is to pick your spots and share your thoughts but also to let the thread breathe a little. It’s easier to sort people when they interact. Keep driving, but drive with purpose.

Find that line that when brainbomb is playing well he finds - talking enough to create interaction but not drowning the thread so much that it creates cover for the scumbos.

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#2333 Post by worcej » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:48 am

Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 2:57 am
##call gm - the stats here are taking into account the last mafia game, any way to fix it? http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/stats?g=46&phase=global
##GM response - I'll get our new Bot GM (darg) to take a look.

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#2334 Post by Durga » Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:50 am

@worcej while you're here, and sorry if i missed it somewhere, can you explain how the car bomb works? would the assassin have to pick the target on d1 or could they pick their target on n1?

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#2335 Post by worcej » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:06 am

Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 3:50 am
@worcej while you're here, and sorry if i missed it somewhere, can you explain how the car bomb works? would the assassin have to pick the target on d1 or could they pick their target on n1?
The car bomb explanation is here:
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GM Note:
I forgot to edit my intro post with this info... but the Assassin Day Kill is now a Car Bomb! This was a balance/tweak to help balance out the game.

You enter the command via PM to the GMs, Jamie and myself, and the command is '##PLANT <target>'. The target will die at the end of the next night phase, unless they are jailed.

Also, the car bomb will not effect the Blind Assassin. Blind people do not drive, I hope...
It wasn't specific in this post, but the order had to be placed during the day, with the death occurring at the end of the night.

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#2336 Post by Durga » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:11 am

ok so darg was done by the end of d1. that's pretty wild. someone had some kind of analysis on this but i don't remember it

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#2337 Post by ChippeRock » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:16 am

Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:11 am
ok so darg was done by the end of d1. that's pretty wild. someone had some kind of analysis on this but i don't remember it
Since you refuse to make reads after stating you would do so after day 1, I will go ##VOTE Durga. ND is appearing a little bit more towny to me, and you're essentially doing the same thing as the lurkers you're afraid will get away.

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#2338 Post by Durga » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:21 am

I went back and checked the theory which was from EP and it was essentially that Flav is scum bc the assassin would be under pressure for using the car bomb.

I half agree with this. I don't see why the assassin would use the car bomb d1 without a chance to consult teammates unless there was chance they'd be mislynched. i guess they could be scared of a potential kill from the SK - trprado also fits this then

i think it'll be useful to see who was heavily town reading darg on d1

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Re: Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

#2339 Post by et » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:31 am

Durga wrote:
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agreed.

want to comment on your fox read though. i don't think he's mafia, and while i agree with the fact that he seems to just exist, i don't think it's all that scummy. he's a really tense mafia player.
Good. I’m not at all sure of that one. Frankly, I need to go back and get caught up, and I also need to ISO Fox. So, I am especially unsure. I just wanted to post my current thinking. If you have thoughts on why Fox is Town (and not just Null) Is like to hear what you have to say.

Though, the game I have in mind in which Fox was scum, I found that he avoided conflict (especially conflict with me), so tell me the game you have in mind where the meta is different.
I played a game with him when we were scum together and I remember him just being very apologetic, not posting much, and trying to be thoughtful when he did. I feel like he's really letting it go for this game, and I think that's an indication he is not mafia.

I'm actually not sure about him being town. He could be the BA. But I'm leaning a no on him being scum.

I'm getting pretty worried about: damo666, neph, moscow, et

teacon has done a total 180 from last game to this one, which is also concerning.
Sorry, there are too many posts to catch up.
I don't catch up yet, but I am thinking about Squigs, ND and Nephthys now.

Squigs change thought about flav.
Is that scummy or townie? I am thinking now.

ND said ND thought Chip as scum, because of boz's read.
But now, ND says flav try to buddy with Chip.
If flav try to buddy with chip, flav is scumy and Chip is towny.

Nephthys don't give us any information intentionally.
What is motivation of that behavior.

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#2340 Post by Nephthys » Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:43 am

Durga wrote:
Fri Jun 07, 2019 4:11 am
ok so darg was done by the end of d1. that's pretty wild. someone had some kind of analysis on this but i don't remember it
Is it? I see nothing where it states that it must be activated during the day, perhaps I'm just tired.

All I see is that is used to be a day kill.

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