Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[rdrivera2005]

Pretty bad N1 result for town, we lost our most usefull PR.

I wasn't roleblocked.

I think Fox is still a bit scummy but Nephthys is also a good lynch. I will try to do some reading later to see if I can grab something from the NK.

[Squigs44]

About to get off work, plan on doing an in depth analysis on Neph, Fox, Moscow when I get settled in back home

[rdrivera2005]

Not a good night, I'll post more thoughts on it later.

##VOTE CHIPPIE

I think Chippie needs to be closely examined today. I'll work on some thoughts on him and iron this case out later tonight when I have time. But, really not a good night.

ND might be scum after all, not questioning reads after flips is usually scum indicative.

[xorxes]

I was roleblocked.

I'm going to ##VOTE Percy to start with while I reread Fox.

[ChippeRock]

I was roleblocked.

I'm going to ##VOTE Percy to start with while I reread Fox.

You haven't done much reading to begin with. Before re-reading Fox, I think you should give us a read on everybody you haven't read. Or at least do it at the same time.

[Foxcastle]

Sorry actually, I don't know about Fox as scum necessarily.

I would like to know who he scum reads though. Because I don't like this flip flopping unclear backboneless play he's providing atm

I'm not sure what that means. What have I flip-flopped on, and what's backboneless (in contrast to when you were calling me too aggressive earlier).

I am actually on a bunch of cold medicine, so maybe that's affecting me more than I realize.

I still scumread Flavius, but the flurry of activity with him and Chippe and Carl is giving me doubt. I would still lynch him today.

I don't want to get into too much OMGUS with TrPrado, because I found that vote really irritating, but he's a scum candidate for me also. I have this pet theory that the scumteam killed Carl because he was scumreading me with the intention of TrPrado getting Chippe on board to mislynch me. But that is kinda crazy and I don't know if TrPrado is so artless as to come out minutes after EON and start pushing that.

There was something that bothered me about Neph on day 1 that made him a candidate. I need to go back and see if there was anything to that.

Leaning scum on Rdrivera, but he's always difficult for me to read and that might be a little OMGUS.

I'm pretty sure Balki is town, I'm reasonably sure Durga is town. ND, Chippe, and Squigs all pretty townie to me.

Xorxes has been too quiet? Tom has been too moody? I doubt that's scum indicative.

Everyone else is pretty null, but I'm sure there's scum lurking there.

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 2.1

Nephthys(2) - Squigs44, Durga
TrPrado(2) - Tom Bombadil, Flavius, 
ND(1) - ChippeRock
Foxcastle(1) - TrPrado
Moscowfleet(1) - Foxcastle
ChippeRock(1) - ND
PercyWilliams(1) - Xorxes

NOBODY is set to be lynched.

There is really quite a lot of time left.

[xorxes]

Ok, @Squigs, Balki said he has 30 minutes so that's fine if he's just going to give short reads, but I'd rather him just have a discussion, no one asked anyone to give reads so early
But why are you giving the reads? Off one statement?
Doesn't make much sense, just talk with people, you'll discover stuff much easier that way

I leaned many new tactics over on MU for solving. I wanted to try some of them in this game. There is a guy over there who makes reads on the first post of every player in every game and is better than random accurate

Oh, I would love to compare notes after. I'm also trying some new analytic techniques.

Any results so far from these techniques? Without revealing any details that might ruin the method, can you give us some idea about what type of info you base them on?

[ChippeRock]

Sorry actually, I don't know about Fox as scum necessarily.

I would like to know who he scum reads though. Because I don't like this flip flopping unclear backboneless play he's providing atm

I'm not sure what that means. What have I flip-flopped on, and what's backboneless (in contrast to when you were calling me too aggressive earlier).

I am actually on a bunch of cold medicine, so maybe that's affecting me more than I realize.

I still scumread Flavius, but the flurry of activity with him and Chippe and Carl is giving me doubt. I would still lynch him today.

I don't want to get into too much OMGUS with TrPrado, because I found that vote really irritating, but he's a scum candidate for me also. I have this pet theory that the scumteam killed Carl because he was scumreading me with the intention of TrPrado getting Chippe on board to mislynch me. But that is kinda crazy and I don't know if TrPrado is so artless as to come out minutes after EON and start pushing that.

There was something that bothered me about Neph on day 1 that made him a candidate. I need to go back and see if there was anything to that.

Leaning scum on Rdrivera, but he's always difficult for me to read and that might be a little OMGUS.

I'm pretty sure Balki is town, I'm reasonably sure Durga is town. ND, Chippe, and Squigs all pretty townie to me.

Xorxes has been too quiet? Tom has been too moody? I doubt that's scum indicative.

Everyone else is pretty null, but I'm sure there's scum lurking there.

*Throws out cold medicine as an excuse*, Jesus Christ, why would you even mention that? No one really cares and it's a shitty excuse/justification.

[Durga]

Okay enough, stop being so negative and attacking everyone who comments on the thread Chippe. I can't stand it.

##vote Chippe
##vote end

[xorxes]

Why aren't ND and Durga going at it like battle cats yet?

I think ND creates a new persona for each game. I wonder if he has a spreadsheet of all of them, or if he just looks up "angry" in the thesaurus and picks randomly from the list.

So far, I don't see much to go on in his play. He's a good player, could go either way.

Trying to spark the ND/Durga fire which thankfully didn't catch on.

That thing about ND is a trope by now. I don't think ND has made any effort to create a distinctive persona this game, just basic angry ND, and he can't even amp it up now because of jmo.

[EspressoPatronum]

I don't understand why the janitor wouldn't target the planned NK unless there was some disagreement on the target. Perhaps dargo or Carl posted something close to EoN that made the assassin change targets.

[EspressoPatronum]

Or they thought Carl would've led the way on ##VOTE FOXCASTLE

Didn't Carl start badmouthing Fox near the end of the night? Most likely too late for the Mafia NK to be changed?

If this is true and the assassin swapped to Carl, then the janitor probably wasn't active EoN.

[EspressoPatronum]

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g= ... 0Tuckerson

CTRL+F for "Fox" and he talks a decent amount about how he was going to push Fox and dargo this phase

##VOTE Foxcastle

[Tom Bombadil]

Hot take - Balki and xorxes are town since scum likely shot someone was strongly acting as VT rather than PR and those two would definitely be shooting for PR N1.

[xorxes]

Not super excited about Percy's play. It seems very participatory without actually being useful. (Something I get accused of all the time.)

Example: asking somebody else to count up Squigs' scum reads. If you think that could be scummy, why not do it yourself and see rather than shading?

The whole thing between him and Carl about the jailer seems off to me, too.

Based on [urlhttp://webdiplomacy.net/contrib/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=80220#p80220]this interaction[/url], I don't think Percy and Flavius are both scum, though.

##VOTE Bozo
I don't know what he's playing at, but I don't like it.

And then the Bozo vote. This looks like trying to create suspicion ("yeah... what's he playing at!") but you can come back later with plausible deniability that this is a pressure vote, or something.

Good post. If Percy flips scum this is townie points to Fox.

[xorxes]

Hot take - Balki and xorxes are town since scum likely shot someone was strongly acting as VT rather than PR and those two would definitely be shooting for PR N1.

One of the dead people was a PR... Do you know something that we don't?

[Tom Bombadil]

I’ve already explained why I though Carl was very likely the mafia kill. Plz read the thread...

[EspressoPatronum]

Not a good night, I'll post more thoughts on it later.

##VOTE CHIPPIE

I think Chippie needs to be closely examined today. I'll work on some thoughts on him and iron this case out later tonight when I have time. But, really not a good night.

A small part of me thought Chippe was roleplaying incompetence with the whole VT thing as a breadcrumb for a bailiff claim. That's no longer an option bcz of dargo's identify, so I'm moving Chippe out from my 'policy kill' into 'possibly scum.'

I think we need to get to the bottom of the Foxcastle stuff first though

[ChippeRock]

Okay enough, stop being so negative and attacking everyone who comments on the thread Chippe. I can't stand it.

##vote Chippe
##vote end

Whoo man, you must really think Neph is scum huh? You going to do the same thing as yesterday? Bluff with this vote, hold onto it until the last hour, and than vote for the leading wagon?