Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[ChippeRock]

So, basically, 2 easy lynches & a lynch you got support for, but didn't have enough time to lynch. Totally not scummy...

Than again, you're the idiot that wanted to policy lynch people.

Excuse me? Easy lynches? Who determines scumminess on the basis of the easiness of lynches. That is not a consideration. It also clearly can't be that easy as some fuckers wanted bozo.

I can't fathom how you can think I'm scummy after that EoD. I also can't fathom how you think what I said is scummy. So now I'm under the impression that you are straight up lying, and saying whatever bullshit you want as long as it's contrary to my position.

At this point, Chippe is just saying things that are blatantly false. He's taking actions that are not scummy or AI and scum reading people for them. This is very deceitful behaviour. And coupled with his earlier antics which were incredibly deceitful, I don't know how we can justify not lynching him.

Scum would want to blend in - voting for lynches that a lot of people can agree to without questioning is something scum would do.

And let's not talk about deceitful.

You stated you didn't have the time and couldn't be bothered with making reads on the other players. All of your messages were very shallow and weren't about making reads or helping town at all. Than, in the last couple of hours, you suddenly make a read on Neph - clearly trying to get a lynch on him, hoping that the last-minuteness of it would attract voters who would be voting under pressure from the time.

Please tell us why you couldn't be bothered to make a read in the first 46 hours of the day, but in the last 2 hours of the day, you made a read and finally started pushing to lynch that person you read. What was wrong with simply making your reads earlier in the day? Why did you only make 1 read? And why did you only decide to make that 1 read near the end of the day?

[Balki Bartokomous]

RIP Bozo.

[ChippeRock]

Excuse me? Easy lynches? Who determines scumminess on the basis of the easiness of lynches. That is not a consideration. It also clearly can't be that easy as some fuckers wanted bozo.

I can't fathom how you can think I'm scummy after that EoD. I also can't fathom how you think what I said is scummy. So now I'm under the impression that you are straight up lying, and saying whatever bullshit you want as long as it's contrary to my position.

At this point, Chippe is just saying things that are blatantly false. He's taking actions that are not scummy or AI and scum reading people for them. This is very deceitful behaviour. And coupled with his earlier antics which were incredibly deceitful, I don't know how we can justify not lynching him.

Scum would want to blend in - voting for lynches that a lot of people can agree to without questioning is something scum would do.

Oh yeah because my push on Neph was so indicative of my desire to blend in. Just shut up you lying scummy asshole. Go talk to your scum friends and leave us alone so we can figure out the game. Lord knows if you're somehow town you'll never be able to do it.

In fact - I've seen no indication of your desire to game solve beyond your vitriol at other players for apparently not game solving. You point fingers and claim someone is scummy for actions that are actually either townie or NAI. And that's all you've "contributed".

I've contributed more to this game than you have. Don't be hypocritical. At least my posts aren't all 1-2 sentences long.

[Durga]

Ok I read the assassin role properly. Seems like they carry out the NK and have a one shot day kill. I don't like that there's a one shot day kill that can't be blocked by town at all (ie bulletproof).

[Balki Bartokomous]

I’m a bit behind on the thread, but not the end of the world to lose a VT with PRs hidden. PRs — do awesome things tonight.

[Percy Williams]

People asked for an explanation on my early Bozo push:
It definitely wasn't the lurking, as I understand people have real lives to get to, but when bozo did come in, he led with a naked vote, and an insistence that his only read was that Chippe was scum, when Chippe was a popular wagon. It was the ultimate safe vote for Bozo to make, and made him present without actually adding anything. Tunnels also break games, and imo are scum indicative, as the person is "Catching scum" while really only drawing attention to one desired target. He seemed scum later when People were ignoring him for most of the thread, even while pushing on Moscow for being lurky. Towards the end, Bozo makes a post or two from town perspective, but I read those After I knew he was town, and didn't see them real time anyways.

[Durga]

Scum would want to blend in - voting for lynches that a lot of people can agree to without questioning is something scum would do.

Oh yeah because my push on Neph was so indicative of my desire to blend in. Just shut up you lying scummy asshole. Go talk to your scum friends and leave us alone so we can figure out the game. Lord knows if you're somehow town you'll never be able to do it.

In fact - I've seen no indication of your desire to game solve beyond your vitriol at other players for apparently not game solving. You point fingers and claim someone is scummy for actions that are actually either townie or NAI. And that's all you've "contributed".

I've contributed more to this game than you have. Don't be hypocritical. At least my posts aren't all 1-2 sentences long.

There's something to be said about you responding to a post that's multiple sentences with that last line. Something absolutely hilarious. All you've contributed is fucking garbage and an apparent attempt to cheat or lie. Since it's apparently not cheating, I'm going with lying. I should never have excused your actions at the beginning of the game.

[TrPrado]

1) k?
You wanted it, and kept fighting for one, despite us actually wanting to do stuff, why?

2) that’s not what I didn’t want him to explain. I didn’t want him to explain why he townread me and scumread you. It was pretty obvious to me and to Balki but you seemed very upset by it. I wanted you to puzzle it out for yourself because it was entertaining. And like page 2 or 3
Awful answer, obviously a lie, again back to just joking around if you were being truthful, not actually trying to solve anything

3) I didn’t forget. I just never cared. What’s so convenient about it?

Yes but it mattered, I went back to your posts, and you were trying to pin me because of it

4) if all lists are gonna be like yours then sure. Nobody making a list is better than everyone posting vague and incomplete lists that have no explanation

Did you not read my explanations I had clear criteria, and you fit every single bit of it. You don't contribute anything, and just like to poke holes and egg people on
Side note; you CONTINUE too, you get involved into this game, then you bow out, then do something big, and then bow out


5) I fundamentally disagree with the premise of your argument, there’s very little in terms of questions that are actively unhelpful. I’m trying to puzzle players out so I can try to figure out the game
Im not saying questions are unhelpful but when its all you do, thats a problem

6) correct

Explain then.

7) my mind went to artificial intelligence, I also don’t remember anyone ever using that lingo in that abbreviation when I played last

Hmmm, ok...

8) I didn’t say I WON’T reread. I said I haven’t. We’re not even 24 hours into the game. And if you want me to post a list (a better list) I’m not doing that for at least another 24 hours either.
We are asking for gutreads right off the bat, you went directly against that idea, also I did provide criteria to my list, aka an explination

1) Who is us? Fox wasn't taking it seriously either. There wasn't anything to do BUT joke around. Wanting to know why I made fun of someone for saying no joke phase is stupid and a nonpoint.

2) I wasn't lying. And you're defending yourself by bringing up irrelevant points. You're talking about a post where I didn't say anything about me not wanting him to explain something. The page 7 post I asked why you posted a list so you're misconstruing what I'm saying at any given point.

3) No, Squigs's dude really never mattered. I asked you why you took it at face value. Why take ANYTHING at face value? Why presume it to be effective when you have no proof of it? And also importantly your list was EXTREMELY different from what Squigs was doing. One way or the other, it's best not to care about some person not on the site who we don't know who may or may not exist. Even if Squigs made him up it's not alignment indicative so it's best

4) It took you being asked several times by several people to list criteria, and they were bad criteria for 2 hours into the game.

5) There's a grander plan. Phase 1 is prepared. An no I'm not going to explain it yet.

6) I didn't want to at the time. That was part of the point of me doing it. I explained in my Chippe section of PART II and also I don't owe you anything.

8) Who. Is. We? Squigs never asked. He didn't care about other people doing it. And what's the obsession with Squigs? Why do you defend every action of his and the ground he treads on? If I put him on a boat and shipped him to an island in the Mediterranean for the rest of his life, would you follow him Further, no, I wouldn't do gut reads either of those two very distinct and highly different ways. Not everyone has to do it, it's not a crucial strategy that'll turn the tide of the game. And it wasn't even the intention behind it in the first place.

You've misread and misconstrued everything I've posted all game and seem to be trying to find excuses as to "oh he's gotta be scum I guess" and it's pretty transparent. For God's sake you treated me asking what AI meant as being scum indicative.

[Durga]

I'd like to be jailed, please & thx

[ChippeRock]

Excuse me? Easy lynches? Who determines scumminess on the basis of the easiness of lynches. That is not a consideration. It also clearly can't be that easy as some fuckers wanted bozo.

I can't fathom how you can think I'm scummy after that EoD. I also can't fathom how you think what I said is scummy. So now I'm under the impression that you are straight up lying, and saying whatever bullshit you want as long as it's contrary to my position.

At this point, Chippe is just saying things that are blatantly false. He's taking actions that are not scummy or AI and scum reading people for them. This is very deceitful behaviour. And coupled with his earlier antics which were incredibly deceitful, I don't know how we can justify not lynching him.

Scum would want to blend in - voting for lynches that a lot of people can agree to without questioning is something scum would do.

And let's not talk about deceitful.

You stated you didn't have the time and couldn't be bothered with making reads on the other players. All of your messages were very shallow and weren't about making reads or helping town at all. Than, in the last couple of hours, you suddenly make a read on Neph - clearly trying to get a lynch on him, hoping that the last-minuteness of it would attract voters who would be voting under pressure from the time.

Please tell us why you couldn't be bothered to make a read in the first 46 hours of the day, but in the last 2 hours of the day, you made a read and finally started pushing to lynch that person you read. What was wrong with simply making your reads earlier in the day? Why did you only make 1 read? And why did you only decide to make that 1 read near the end of the day?

@Durga, curious you just ignored this post. Would you like to address it?

[Percy Williams]

My town haven list:
Durga
Teacon
Et
Carl
Flavius (unpopular opinion I know, but his defensiveness is his desperate "Don't lynch me I'm town guys" thought process)
Chippe

also probably town: Balki

[Percy Williams]

I DARE the Baliff to roleblock me. It won't do a damn thing and it'll be a waste, but it'll do jackshit to me and will hopefully clear my name.

Yeah! Yeah!? Well, I DOUBLE DOG dare the bailiff to roleblock ME!

Oi, yeah! I Quadruple DOG DARE The Baliff To ROLEBLOCK Me!

[Percy Williams]

I messed the last one up:

I DARE the Baliff to roleblock me. It won't do a damn thing and it'll be a waste, but it'll do jackshit to me and will hopefully clear my name.

Yeah! Yeah!? Well, I DOUBLE DOG dare the bailiff to roleblock ME!

Oh yeah! I TRIPLE DOG DARE the Baliff to ROLEBLOCK me!

Oi, yeah! I Quadruple DOG DARE The Baliff To ROLEBLOCK Me!

[Durga]

Scum would want to blend in - voting for lynches that a lot of people can agree to without questioning is something scum would do.

And let's not talk about deceitful.

You stated you didn't have the time and couldn't be bothered with making reads on the other players. All of your messages were very shallow and weren't about making reads or helping town at all. Than, in the last couple of hours, you suddenly make a read on Neph - clearly trying to get a lynch on him, hoping that the last-minuteness of it would attract voters who would be voting under pressure from the time.

Please tell us why you couldn't be bothered to make a read in the first 46 hours of the day, but in the last 2 hours of the day, you made a read and finally started pushing to lynch that person you read. What was wrong with simply making your reads earlier in the day? Why did you only make 1 read? And why did you only decide to make that 1 read near the end of the day?

@Durga, curious you just ignored this post. Would you like to address it?

Didn't see it. I don't like to be super active d1 because I went through a series of games of being nk'd early on and it's boring when it's like that. But then I found scum and got too excited. I didn't "decide" to only do a read later on, I just finally found a person who's actually scummy.

Now you've seen bozo flip town. I tried to do a last minute lynch on Neph. Why the FUCK would I do that as scum when I could be pretty confident that town would flip. And it appears you think Flav is also town. So when it's town v town wtf would I gain from a third wagon.

Either learn how to think about the game or stop engaging me. It's a waste of my time. The way you word things is so deceitful. Your d1 antics were nothing but deceitful. Just because you curse and yell at people and act abrasive all game doesn't make you useful

[ChippeRock]

@Durga - please address why, if Flav is scum, did he try setting up the TrPrado wagon when the obvious counterwagon was bozo's? He could of just as easily convinced us on Prado's wagon to join bozo's.

[Durga]

Also the jailer should target a potential NK option. Treat yourself like you're the doc. While it would be awesome to jail the assassin, I don't think it'll be likely. Much better to aim for a potential NK target.

[Durga]

@Durga - please address why, if Flav is scum, did he try setting up the TrPrado wagon when the obvious counterwagon was bozo's? He could of just as easily convinced us on Prado's wagon to join bozo's.

Maybe he's not scum. I'm not sure. He's not a very strong scum read for me. I also missed reading a bit of that so I need to go back and read that later.

[ChippeRock]

And let's not talk about deceitful.

You stated you didn't have the time and couldn't be bothered with making reads on the other players. All of your messages were very shallow and weren't about making reads or helping town at all. Than, in the last couple of hours, you suddenly make a read on Neph - clearly trying to get a lynch on him, hoping that the last-minuteness of it would attract voters who would be voting under pressure from the time.

Please tell us why you couldn't be bothered to make a read in the first 46 hours of the day, but in the last 2 hours of the day, you made a read and finally started pushing to lynch that person you read. What was wrong with simply making your reads earlier in the day? Why did you only make 1 read? And why did you only decide to make that 1 read near the end of the day?

@Durga, curious you just ignored this post. Would you like to address it?

Didn't see it. I don't like to be super active d1 because I went through a series of games of being nk'd early on and it's boring when it's like that. But then I found scum and got too excited. I didn't "decide" to only do a read later on, I just finally found a person who's actually scummy.

Now you've seen bozo flip town. I tried to do a last minute lynch on Neph. Why the FUCK would I do that as scum when I could be pretty confident that town would flip. And it appears you think Flav is also town. So when it's town v town wtf would I gain from a third wagon.

Either learn how to think about the game or stop engaging me. It's a waste of my time. The way you word things is so deceitful. Your d1 antics were nothing but deceitful. Just because you curse and yell at people and act abrasive all game doesn't make you useful

Because, as scum, you were confident bozo was probably a VT. Neph on the other hand, he could be an important town member.

You're still not addressing why you waited 46 HOURS to make 1 sorta in-depth read? Why make the read at all if you're taking D1 off? Why not make it earlier? Why did you wait til near the EoD to make the damn read and try starting the wagon??

[Durga]

Honestly Chippe, I'm no longer wasting my time responding to you. Bye

[ChippeRock]

Honestly Chippe, I'm no longer wasting my time responding to you. Bye

Don't address it than. But I hope others will take note and ask you about it.