Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[FlaviusAetius]

In champs we played a setup where everyone was a PR, no VT's. I was Jack of all Trades, but only got to use a Voyeur which was useless, so I might as well have been a VT. I was actually pretty surprised I got third in that game. I got mislynched D2 after a bunch of crazy shenanigans including claims and people voting me after townreading me. I got lynched mostly because I got bored and did this thing where I tried to build a scum-team using primarily wagon formations, and didn't explain my methodology very well, people got confused and didn't like my word choice. Oh, that and town sucked. We got swept by mafia.

So no, no confidence boost, it was a pretty awful game. I would say my emotion coming into this game is excited though. I haven't played a webdip game in a while and I like them better than the champs game.

You literally said that the guy who did the gut reads was better than normal and now your calling him bad??

Why did you take him at face value?

Why would he even lie about that makes no sense

[Carl Tuckerson]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

[Squigs44]

Squigs does not like playing scum, worries about playing scum, but does not create new personas for playing scum. Does create new personas for playing town. The thing with checking his gut because some other guy was slightly better than average doesn't strike me as... I dunno. I don't want to say it's scummy, because I could see him coming off his third place in the MU championship with a nice confidence boost and picking that up and running with it. However, it does require town-Squigs to think that he is also going to be better than average, and I think that's different from his more cautious town meta. However, scum-Squigs could just run with it, because obviously.

Hey Squigs, what roles did you play in the MU championship, what roles did you really excel with to get to third, and do you think you're riding a confidence boost here in M46?

In champs we played a setup where everyone was a PR, no VT's. I was Jack of all Trades, but only got to use a Voyeur which was useless, so I might as well have been a VT. I was actually pretty surprised I got third in that game. I got mislynched D2 after a bunch of crazy shenanigans including claims and people voting me after townreading me. I got lynched mostly because I got bored and did this thing where I tried to build a scum-team using primarily wagon formations, and didn't explain my methodology very well, people got confused and didn't like my word choice. Oh, that and town sucked. We got swept by mafia.

So no, no confidence boost, it was a pretty awful game. I would say my emotion coming into this game is excited though. I haven't played a webdip game in a while and I like them better than the champs game.

You literally said that the guy who did the gut reads was better than normal and now your calling him bad??

The guy wasn't in the game, he spectates all 11 of them and does it for all of them.

[FlaviusAetius]

Also I have yet to see that big post from you and Im on page 43, what page was your post on??

[bozotheclown]

Coming up with one read and focusing on it until you die or get your way is petty and ridiculous. I honestly think you cannot both be town and trying to win, I've had enough.

##VOTE bozotheclown

Do you really think someone pushing their top scum read is scum indicative?

Having 1 fucking read is - which just happens to be a scumread.

One scum read is all I need on day 1.

[Carl Tuckerson]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

[Foxcastle]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

It's obvious if you think about it.

[Carl Tuckerson]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

It's obvious if you think about it.

Say it then.

[Durga]

bozo is SO unbothered. don't do thissssssss

[Foxcastle]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

It's obvious if you think about it.

Say it then.

If I have to say it, then it's not obvious, and then I'd be caught in a contradiction...

[TrPrado]

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

Eh, when you look at the things he's said it's pretty easy to explain.

[et]

Please point out where you think I have "obviously lied"?

I already pointed.

bozotheclown
Day-1 28:09
page 30 / orig
↑Foxcastle: "And Bozo is back! We're all* very** curious** about your vote, Bozo.

[* Those of us interested in the game, anyway]
[*..."
What ChippeRock is doing seems like a scum ploy.

bozotheclown
Day-1 22:13
page 39 / orig
↑rdrivera2005: "Bozo, you are usually better then this. Could you present what is the scum motivation for Chippe to do this? Or do you b..."
I am sure his motivation was to look like a VT, but it really does not matter, since his own claims have confirmed him as scum.

Please tell me why did you post these.

Those all say the same thing I am currently saying, that ChippeRock is scum and was claiming to be able prove he is VT as a scum ploy.

Ok. I misunderstood about that. I thought you claim policy lynch for Chip.
Then, do you think Chip as town PR?

[FlaviusAetius]

If I explained my vote now it would lose its purpose. Remind me later and I will explain.

??? I dont believe you at all. Explain it now

Alright, so there was a clear difference between my interactions with you and with Chippe.

With you, all I had to do was say "scum" and you were insta-defensive. I didn't need to vote you to get your attention and get you into a backed-into-the-corner state. Also, Balki and others were actively questioning you and engaging you with conversation. I wasn't in a real conversation with you.

With Chippe, I was in a conversation with him, asking questions. I had his attention when I placed that vote down, and it put more pressure on him. If I had said it was a pressure vote, it would have lost it's pressure. And for anyone that says pressure votes don't work, Chippe was accusing me of viciously starting a bandwagon on him, so I would say he felt pressured by that vote.

Pressure voting is all about timing and how you put the vote in.

You dont need to vote to put on the pressure though?

[ChippeRock]

##CALL GM: Is Cruaader Reynaurd still in the game or has be been banned?

Oh shit, he got banned like 10 minutes ago!

##CALL GM, I demand that Cruaader be modkilled immediately and his role be posted! There just isn't going to be any replacements for him and waiting until after this phase ends is depriving us of key information!

[Jamiet99uk]

IMPORTANT GM NOTE

Cruaaderreynauld has been BANNED from webDip (the whole site, not just Mafia games) due to multiple rule violations.

This was the decision of the WebDip mods which is out of my hands but of course we respect their decision.

A replacement will be sought.

[Durga]

i will vote flav over bozo if it comes down to it - the former is more likely to be scum.

[Carl Tuckerson]

It's obvious if you think about it.

Say it then.

If I have to say it, then it's not obvious, and then I'd be caught in a contradiction...

Quit being a fucking asshole and say it.

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

Eh, when you look at the things he's said it's pretty easy to explain.

Say it.

[Foxcastle]

##CALL GM: Is Cruaader Reynaurd still in the game or has be been banned?

Oh shit, he got banned like 10 minutes ago!

##CALL GM, I demand that Cruaader be modkilled immediately and his role be posted! There just isn't going to be any replacements for him and waiting until after this phase ends is depriving us of key information!

Demands! Demands!

[Durga]

##CALL GM: Is Cruaader Reynaurd still in the game or has be been banned?

Oh shit, he got banned like 10 minutes ago!

##CALL GM, I demand that Cruaader be modkilled immediately and his role be posted! There just isn't going to be any replacements for him and waiting until after this phase ends is depriving us of key information!

chill out. a replacement is better than a mod kill. mod kills skew the game one way or another. he's not integral, just keep playing

[Foxcastle]

Say it then.

If I have to say it, then it's not obvious, and then I'd be caught in a contradiction...

Quit being a fucking asshole and say it.

I REPEAT:

@Flavius voters: Why would scum actively choose not to vote their counterwagon, who is a lurker and an easy lynch, and instead try to go after a more active player with less momentum on his side, this close to deadline?

Eh, when you look at the things he's said it's pretty easy to explain.

Say it.

You haven't said please yet.