Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Tom Bombadil]

##vote Foxy

I’ll try to get on for some more substantial discussion, but no promises. These deadlines aren’t great for me

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Durga, if you had to pick Flavius, Bozo, or TrPrado to lynch, where is your head at now?

I don't feel great about any of those. What's the case on bozo

I think the general case on Bozo is low participation and then an illogical tunnel on ChippeRock. But people pushing that case should correct me if I’m wrong. I don’t think anyone has actually pointing to anything alignment indicative there.

[ChippeRock]

I'm not sure why Moscow plays this game. I'm not keen on letting him get by on his same shit every game

Except he's never lurked to this degree ever, as I explained here. Get your parked safe vote off of him, and find somebody who's more likely to be scum. Lynching Moscow is like spinning a roulette wheel - since he's never done this before, there's no indication at all that he could be scum or town in any way.

Doesn't matter he shouldn't be playing

What does matter is that all of your votes have been policy lynches. It's almost like you're afraid of making a controversial vote that can be read into by the others...

All you've provided us with was that you thought Flav & Moscow were scum - but that was 7 hours in. You didn't justify that read. And those appear to be your only reads.

You eventually changed your mind about Flat. And you also have/had a "very strong town read on Carl".

Again, voting for Moscow because he also lurked last game is stupid - as I explained in that post I linked. Not only that, voting for him is like spinning a roulette wheel - it's effectively purely random whether he's town or scum. Vote for somebody who's more likely to be scum.

You've literally offered nothing to this game. You've made a minimal amount of reads. You've provided no insight for others. You're playing one of the safest games I've ever seen and you're effectively a lurker - with your high volume and low content. Get off your ass! I think all of us would like to hear your reads, opinions, & insights on the game.

[ChippeRock]

I'm not sure why Moscow plays this game. I'm not keen on letting him get by on his same shit every game

Except he's never lurked to this degree ever, as I explained here. Get your parked safe vote off of him, and find somebody who's more likely to be scum. Lynching Moscow is like spinning a roulette wheel - since he's never done this before, there's no indication at all that he could be scum or town in any way.

I'm with Durga. If he's town, MF's lurking doesn't help solve the game and becomes deadweight if scum get in the lead. If he's scum, he can just coast to the end. He should either participate or not be in the game.

Durga has provided as much to this game as MoscowFleet has. Voting for MoscowFleet is a damn coin flip (albeit a weighted coin) - there are far better options who are more likely to be scum. Not only that, his vote for MoscowFleet is a safe parked vote that is not impacting the game in any way - I don't see any other lynch votes for MoscowFleet, she's not helping town by being the only person on the wagon for a policy lynch.

[Balki Bartokomous]

[]vote Foxy

I’ll try to get on for some more substantial discussion, but no promises. These deadlines aren’t great for me

Come on man. Explain your vote. Tell us why we should join the wagon. What gives?

[ChippeRock]

Until Durga actually provides something to the game, I will ##VOTE Durga. She's playing way too safe of a game, and it's almost scummy how conservative she's playing and how little she has inputted into this game.

[Foxcastle]

##vote Foxy

I’ll try to get on for some more substantial discussion, but no promises. These deadlines aren’t great for me

A reason would be nice.

(Is it "participating but not contributing?" or however you want to phrase it? Because that's my favorite.)

[Durga]

Except he's never lurked to this degree ever, as I explained here. Get your parked safe vote off of him, and find somebody who's more likely to be scum. Lynching Moscow is like spinning a roulette wheel - since he's never done this before, there's no indication at all that he could be scum or town in any way.

Doesn't matter he shouldn't be playing

What does matter is that all of your votes have been policy lynches. It's almost like you're afraid of making a controversial vote that can be read into by the others...

All you've provided us with was that you thought Flav & Moscow were scum - but that was 7 hours in. You didn't justify that read. And those appear to be your only reads.

You eventually changed your mind about Flat. And you also have/had a "very strong town read on Carl".

Again, voting for Moscow because he also lurked last game is stupid - as I explained in that post I linked. Not only that, voting for him is like spinning a roulette wheel - it's effectively purely random whether he's town or scum. Vote for somebody who's more likely to be scum.

You've literally offered nothing to this game. You've made a minimal amount of reads. You've provided no insight for others. You're playing one of the safest games I've ever seen and you're effectively a lurker - with your high volume and low content. Get off your ass! I think all of us would like to hear your reads, opinions, & insights on the game.

Naw I'm chill thx. Maybe next day. Too many players today

[Durga]

[]vote Foxy

I’ll try to get on for some more substantial discussion, but no promises. These deadlines aren’t great for me

Come on man. Explain your vote. Tell us why we should join the wagon. What gives?

The only shady thing about foxy so far is how friendly he is.

[ChippeRock]

@bozo, stop lurking man. I want to believe you're town, but you've done so little I can't even read you. Provide us with some insight, opinions, & maybe even reads (if you've developed any reads since when you told everyone you only had 1 read)! When Jamiet is providing more to this game for town than you are, that's when you know there's a problem.

[Tom Bombadil]

I don’t have access to a computer so you are going home o have to bear with this explanation until I can get to one.

I’m still suspicious of TrPrado, and think people clearing him for posting walls or recaps and questions of dubious quality should not lead to a townread. Prado would absolutely put this much effort in a s scum - he’s an enthusiastic lad.

I would not consider lunching Durga, ND, Carl as I townread them.
I would not consider lynching Balki or corded because while they are null they are useful as town and in the case of forces in particular he is typicallly was to sort.

I’m suspicious of Foxy essentially entirely based on the question he asked of Balki regarding pressure votes which I found like an unbelievably hollow question considering who he was asking it to - and his repose I found pretty unsatisfactory. He also isn’t in my townlean pool so is a candidate simply because of POE.

Flavor Flave is also a decent wagon as I’m suspicious of the whole Balki being good, experienced and handsome comment.

Lurkers be lurkers.

[Tom Bombadil]

corded = xorxes

[Jamiet99uk]

VOTE COUNT 1.9:

FlaviusAetius(4) - Balki Bartokomous, Dargorygel, Foxcastle, Moscowfleet
bozotheclown(3) - Percy Williams, et, Damo666
Durga(2) - Carl Tuckerson, ChippeRock
Foxcastle(2) - Rdrivera2005, Tom Bombadil
CruaaderReynauld(2) - ND, Teacon7
ChippeRock(2) - bozotheclown, EspressoPatronum
teacon7(2) - connorcompton, Nephthys
MoscowFleet(1) - Durga
Tom Bombadil(1) - Squigs44  
Percy Williams(1) - xorxes
No‑Lynch(1) - CruaaderReynauld
TrPrado(1) - FlaviusAetius

Unvoted: TrPrado

FLAVIUS.A. is still scheduled to be sent to the gallows.

Four hours and 16 minutes remain.

[Durga]

Actually I tried reading a bit of trprado's essay and it's not even analysis, he's just summarizing actions. What a waste of time and space. I don't think it warrants being lynched though. I think Flav is the best bet within those three.

[Tom Bombadil]

Actually I tried reading a bit of trprado's essay and it's not even analysis, he's just summarizing actions. What a waste of time and space. I don't think it warrants being lynched though. I think Flav is the best bet within those three.

The problem I have is that I don’t know if that is scum Prado trying to appear useful and scumhunting, or town Prado just being ineffective with his scumhunting:

[ChippeRock]

Actually I tried reading a bit of trprado's essay and it's not even analysis, he's just summarizing actions. What a waste of time and space. I don't think it warrants being lynched though. I think Flav is the best bet within those three.

The problem I have is that I don’t know if that is scum Prado trying to appear useful and scumhunting, or town Prado just being ineffective with his scumhunting:

He's not really naming any reads, but he is asking everyone questions to answer to help him with his reads. That doesn't really rule out Scum!TrPrado in my opinion though. His impulsiveness when it comes to voting doesn't help his case.

[teacon7]

I'm at the airport, waiting in line for security and my flight out. I'll read and try to post some gonna ask thoughts before my plane leaves.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Things in my head:

Man, the TrPrado wall is ridiculous. He just paraphrased stuff, and asked bad questions that don’t seem to have a direction. And he kept telling us how late at night it was. I feel like his motivation was more about showing us how much effort he was putting in. That is very much scum indicative.

@TrPrado — top three scum reads and reasons please.

[rdrivera2005]

I'll be away for a bit.

Is there really nobody else who suspects Flavius right now?

The nervous defensive posts I have in mind are:

Here, here, here, and here.

But perhaps what pings me more is this:

Ok but Squigs just said that the other player in his game was super accurate with giving early reads, I'm in the middle of giving mine

Here is what Squigs actually said about #squigssdude:

I leaned many new tactics over on MU for solving. I wanted to try some of them in this game. There is a guy over there who makes reads on the first post of every player in every game and is better than random accurate

I just wonder whether the #squigssdude radar was proving to be extra prescient in the early stages, and it psyched Flavius out a bit.

Balki, if this all your case on Flavius I find it weak. He was extra defensive list game and get myslinched. The list he presented is really bizarre, but why scum Flavius will put something like that, so careless. Not saying he is a solid town, but I find little material to justify him being top wagon.

[Balki Bartokomous]

The whole Prado wall is screaming “Look guys — I’m staying up late and reading the thread!!! And I have questions!!! Look at how much I care!”