Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[damo666]

@et - if you vote early, you can change your vote later on. If you had to vote in the next hour, who would you vote for and why?



@damo - looks like you're on the thread. Care to share some thoughts?

Soon. Still catching up.

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav WHO told you Balki was good at this game???

No one did??
Sometimes you can just tell someone is smart or not

How can you tell if someone is experienced when you've hardly interacted with them, also isn't this directly contradictory to the idea that Balki was, in your words, "2) Commenting but not providing anything(aka, balki)"

aka why I think he is a SCUM

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Flavius, by now you have no doubt seen at least one of the perhaps dozen requests in this game thread for you to tell us why you identified Balki as smart and experienced before I had said basically anything. You seem intent on avoiding those questions. Seems pretty clear you are afraid of them.

##vote Flavius again.

@Squigs, you should join me here. Votes matter.

Is this a pressure vote or are you really scumreading Flav?

Is that a serious question?

I don't make "pressure votes." The concept itself defeats the purpose.

[Durga]

Strongly disagree with this.

We all agree that lists with logic are helpful though yet no one posts them...

Thank you!!
teacon last game refused to produce a list, which just added more and more to me thinking he is scum.
Lists are how you solve a game

This makes no sense bc teacon was town and not scum. So your thought process was wrong, and your list is hella sus

[Durga]

No one did??
Sometimes you can just tell someone is smart or not

How can you tell if someone is experienced when you've hardly interacted with them, also isn't this directly contradictory to the idea that Balki was, in your words, "2) Commenting but not providing anything(aka, balki)"

aka why I think he is a SCUM

Flav - why did you call someone who was commenting but not providing anything "smart and experienced"? Is someone who is not providing anything "smart and experienced"? I would say no. Why do you say yes.

Pls answer

[Foxcastle]

@Flavius, by now you have no doubt seen at least one of the perhaps dozen requests in this game thread for you to tell us why you identified Balki as smart and experienced before I had said basically anything. You seem intent on avoiding those questions. Seems pretty clear you are afraid of them.

##vote Flavius again.

@Squigs, you should join me here. Votes matter.

Is this a pressure vote or are you really scumreading Flav?

This seems like a really easy answer if you are following the thread Fox

I appreciate that Balki answered, but even following the thread, I was interested in his reply.

[FlaviusAetius]

Teacon - post more concisely. Please. Last game you made a lot of good points but they got lost in sheer volume. If you’re town it gets your point across. If you’re scum it makes it easier for us to read you. Either way, we can’t have a repeat of last game.

This is really bold bc at least teacon posts, yknow?

No, what teacon did last game was bad

[Tom Bombadil]

Why did you appreciate Balki answering Fox? What did you hope to learn from asking that question?

[TrPrado]

@Tom
Please tell me why you vote TRP?

I don’t scumread ChippeRock and needed to put my vote elsewhere. His observation about ND felt unnatural and I don’t know what it accomplished besides trying to get other people to take up the torch against ND who is one of the most lynchable players in every game he is in.

What in my interaction made it seem like I wanted to target him?

[FlaviusAetius]

How can you tell if someone is experienced when you've hardly interacted with them, also isn't this directly contradictory to the idea that Balki was, in your words, "2) Commenting but not providing anything(aka, balki)"

aka why I think he is a SCUM

Flav - why did you call someone who was commenting but not providing anything "smart and experienced"? Is someone who is not providing anything "smart and experienced"? I would say no. Why do you say yes.

Pls answer

Its simple its a smart thing to do as Scum. Act like you are doing everything, when really you've done absolutely nothing it was one of the criteria I put on for my list
This was EXACTLY what I tried to do as mafia on the first game I played here

[Balki Bartokomous]

Can someone give me a Cliffs Notes summary of "what happened last game" that is important for this game? Something, something, Moscow lurked and was scum...teacon did what? Anything else pertinent? I take it that town lost?

[Foxcastle]

Why did you appreciate Balki answering Fox? What did you hope to learn from asking that question?

This is oddly inquisitive from you, since you should know that asking questions and getting answers has implicit value. I'd like to wait and see how things play out before answering, though. Feel free to ping me about this again later.

[Durga]

aka why I think he is a SCUM

Flav - why did you call someone who was commenting but not providing anything "smart and experienced"? Is someone who is not providing anything "smart and experienced"? I would say no. Why do you say yes.

Pls answer

Its simple its a smart thing to do as Scum. Act like you are doing everything, when really you've done absolutely nothing it was one of the criteria I put on for my list
This was EXACTLY what I tried to do as mafia on the first game I played here

Ok, let's say I buy that you immediately thought he was smart. What made you think he was experienced?

[FlaviusAetius]

So who is actually scumreading Flavius out of all the people pressuring and suspecting him? I see no votes.

I have stated, quite clearly I thought, that Flavius is currently my top scumread, but that I do not think that a vote on him will benefit us in solving - he has already shown that he is feeling pressured.

this is a strange take because we're only a few hours in. are you protecting him

What are you even talking about Squigs, if I was your top scumread why wouldn't you just vote for me??

[bozotheclown]

Agreed: we need to look at lurkers.
But to clarify: How AI is lurking in a game this big?
What counts as lurking in this context? EP has 17 posts but that's nothing compared to squigs' 77.
Moscow and bozo are at the bottom

@fox - You don't think there's something to any of the other discussions? There's not much to go on with lurkers.

@bozo - what do you think of a lurker policy? Would you lynch moscow with us?

It is too early to be talking about lurkers, it is not even half way through D1.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Its simple its a smart thing to do as Scum. Act like you are doing everything, when really you've done absolutely nothing it was one of the criteria I put on for my list
This was EXACTLY what I tried to do as mafia on the first game I played here

It would help if you would point to the specific posts or quotes that you used to make your reads. What made you think I am "smart and experienced"? What made you think I was "doing absolutely nothing" such that I am scum?

Also, you still think I am "doing absolutely nothing"?

[Tom Bombadil]

Why did you appreciate Balki answering Fox? What did you hope to learn from asking that question?

This is oddly inquisitive from you, since you should know that asking questions and getting answers has implicit value. I'd like to wait and see how things play out before answering, though. Feel free to ping me about this again later.

Ok. I will ask you later.

Sure, asking questions is on the surface level is good for town in general. But asking questions where you don’t care about the answers is scummy, and that is the vibe I got from this

[Balki Bartokomous]

Why did you appreciate Balki answering Fox? What did you hope to learn from asking that question?

This is oddly inquisitive from you, since you should know that asking questions and getting answers has implicit value. I'd like to wait and see how things play out before answering, though. Feel free to ping me about this again later.

Just putting a marker here that I find this bizarre.

[TrPrado]

Give us a list if your providing things cause so far I see nothing

Lists aren't actually very helpful, especially when they don't contain any explanations or context.

We already specifically discussed this with Squigs about why IT IS HELPFUL

So enlighten me please how what you did specifically was helpful to us?

[Balki Bartokomous]

Early scum list, for the sake of post-game awards and fawning:
Flavius, teacon, Squigs