Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[FlaviusAetius]

Hello guys!
Sorry for being AFK for the rest of yesterday, my best friend from 8th grade, left to Arizona, and now he's back(Im in 12th grade now). We had A LOT of catching up to do, hah.
So it took up the rest of my day after dinner
I will be catching up now, but Im gonna lay down a vote on TrPrado cause thats who I thought it was before
##vote TrPrado
I'll probably end up changing!

[FlaviusAetius]

How did you arrive at your conclusion that I am "not providing anything"?

Give us a list if your providing things cause so far I see nothing

Lists aren't actually very helpful, especially when they don't contain any explanations or context.

We already specifically discussed this with Squigs about why IT IS HELPFUL

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Flavius — where did you get the (undeniably correct) view that Balki is smart?

Please take us back through your process in building your list of reads. Why did you do that? Why do you think you came up with seven scum? Describe your process in as much detail as possible. And once you’ve re-read, tell us if any of those reads have changed.

[FlaviusAetius]

I also like this post from TrPrado. I'm getting confident, attentive.

This.
You also basically just have ONLY asked questions.
Also getting quite aggressive now?
My 'pings' are going wild!!!

What's wrong with asking questions? What else do you expect from someone two hours into the game?

We said to have a discussion, Balki just asked questions. I understand though he had only 30 minutes, so I still think he's scum, just not as much as you

[FlaviusAetius]

@balki where have you been?

Why are you and squigs both doing gut-reaction "pings" ?

Because one dude Squig knows did that and it was pretty accurate, its a good place to start on Day 1 imo

[FlaviusAetius]

So who is actually scumreading Flavius out of all the people pressuring and suspecting him? I see no votes.

After Squigs made a comment about Flavius having vote pressure on him I went through and checked. Balki is currently voting for him

shh way to blow my dramatic representation of the situation to get eyeballs on it and get people talking

That said, the amount of suspicion and pressure put on him is pretty whack for one vote.

Ummm?? I wouldn't expect people to vote so early in the game either, though, so it wasn't pretty whacked, it was perfectly reasonable

[FlaviusAetius]

My criteria were
1) Not engaged in the game(aka neph saying 'hi')
2) Commenting but not providing anything(aka, balki)

@Balki Right there, you even made mention of this, why did you just choose to ignore it??

[Tom Bombadil]

Hey flav. How did you know Balki was smart?

[Durga]

Flav WHO told you Balki was good at this game???

[FlaviusAetius]

Im on page 11 or 12 right now, so every time I make a comment, I come back to this page, so I'll keep responding to people. Right now it's you and TrPrado, that I think are scum. My list was just the thing Squig's guy was doing, the same thing YOU were doing.

[FlaviusAetius]

Me.

I am... oddly argumentative, without direction...
I don't like his copying squigs. While I approve of squigs new experimental methodology, someone else copying it without the historical reasoning of squigs tastes like scumsoup. You get to list a few 'reads' that make you seem involved, without sticking your neck out.

##VOTE FLAVIUSAETIUS

While that’s somewhat true, I think a mafia who is winging it trying not to get caught and borrowing a townie’s list criteria wouldn’t name seven different mafia. Typically mafia have too few scumreads not too many.
The copying bit is still a good point.

Flavius: why did you copy Squigs’s methodology? Give specifics please.

Already explained, but basically, we wanted a discussion to happen, not a joke day. Squigs and Balki were just throwing out reads without any context or anything. I understood Balki because he only had 30 minutes, but Squigs??
Then Squigs said 'oh I saw another dude do it, and it was pretty accurate'
So then I said well why not WE ALL do it, then we can compare lists
Thats why

[FlaviusAetius]

Flav WHO told you Balki was good at this game???

No one did??
Sometimes you can just tell someone is smart or not

[Balki Bartokomous]

@Flavius, by now you have no doubt seen at least one of the perhaps dozen requests in this game thread for you to tell us why you identified Balki as smart and experienced before I had said basically anything. You seem intent on avoiding those questions. Seems pretty clear you are afraid of them.

##vote Flavius again.

@Squigs, you should join me here. Votes matter.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Flav WHO told you Balki was good at this game???

No one did??
Sometimes you can just tell someone is smart or not

You said "smart and experienced" if I recall, and it was super early. And you said it like it was fact engraved in stone. Have you ever encountered me on Webdip prior to this game?

[Durga]

Flav WHO told you Balki was good at this game???

No one did??
Sometimes you can just tell someone is smart or not

How can you tell if someone is experienced when you've hardly interacted with them, also isn't this directly contradictory to the idea that Balki was, in your words, "2) Commenting but not providing anything(aka, balki)"

[Balki Bartokomous]

Also -- bullshit.

You read my first few posts and determined I was smart and experienced, while at the same time you read me as scum because I was asking questions with no purpose?

Give me a break.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Tell us what specific posts lead you to your dual conclusions that (a) Balki is smart/experienced and (b) Balki is scum because he is asking questions and commenting without providing anything.

[Foxcastle]

@Flavius, by now you have no doubt seen at least one of the perhaps dozen requests in this game thread for you to tell us why you identified Balki as smart and experienced before I had said basically anything. You seem intent on avoiding those questions. Seems pretty clear you are afraid of them.

##vote Flavius again.

@Squigs, you should join me here. Votes matter.

Is this a pressure vote or are you really scumreading Flav?

[FlaviusAetius]

Lists aren't actually very helpful, especially when they don't contain any explanations or context.

Strongly disagree with this.

We all agree that lists with logic are helpful though yet no one posts them...

Thank you!!
teacon last game refused to produce a list, which just added more and more to me thinking he is scum.
Lists are how you solve a game

[Tom Bombadil]

@Flavius, by now you have no doubt seen at least one of the perhaps dozen requests in this game thread for you to tell us why you identified Balki as smart and experienced before I had said basically anything. You seem intent on avoiding those questions. Seems pretty clear you are afraid of them.

##vote Flavius again.

@Squigs, you should join me here. Votes matter.

Is this a pressure vote or are you really scumreading Flav?

This seems like a really easy answer if you are following the thread Fox