Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[Balki Bartokomous]

You know what kind of people don’t talk the way Chippe has talked so far? The scum kind.

[TrPrado]

Y'all seem to have a strong sense of urgency. There's still 42 hours left in D1.

[ND]

I'm conflicted on my initial read of Chippie, either he is a total retard (as I initially thought), or really playing into 'I'm so VT guys I can't be scum guys' people have done stuff like that in meta before. So, idk, I'm conflicted on him too early for me to say.

[EspressoPatronum]

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

I've literally played hundreds of Mafia and Werewolf games (IRL, not forum) and have yet to see a VT come up with DEFINITIVE proof they are a VT without either (a) cheating or (b) having the assistance of a PR that had a night zero ability.

I have a question for you that hinges on some facts.
1. I give you a box of crayons with 5 crayons in it.
2. I turn around.
3. You remove 3 crayons.
4. I face you again (not knowing that you've removed crayons).

How many crayons would I think are in the box?

Sorry if this is a bit patronizing, but I'm seeing literally 0 ways of you accomplishing what you say you're accomplishing UNLESS you don't have a theory of mind, lol.

I've not broken the rules (or at least my posts with the proof didn't; perhaps my hints did, but I tried keeping it legal). I promise you, I accomplished what you don't think I could of accomplished - the only thing that might of been illegal were my hints that I tried lending you guys so that you could independently definitively prove I'm a VT.

So 2 crayons?

[Percy Williams]

I'm curious now, how many ways are there to definitely prove vt?

Here's what I thought of:
1 screenshot of Pm
2 flavour post from Gm telling us so
3 If there was a difference between role pms sent and publicly posted
4 Other role confirms it.

[ChippeRock]

So let’s just assume you are a VT.
What do we do now?

Well, assuming the definitive evidence I'm a VT is found and everyone knows I'm VT, that means there's one less person to consider for lynching. It means that people who have voted for me will have to move their vote to their 2nd most scummy read (or get lynched, since there's proof I'm a VT), and we have a greater chance of lynching scum. Additionally, other players' interactions with me can be analyzed to determine whether or not its Town v Town or Mafia v Town.

Well, since the definitive evidence that you’re a VT is clearly somewhere in the thread I’m sure all the sleuths in here will find it and exonerate you in short order. So let’s just say they already did.
Who’s your first scumread? Some of us don’t have second scumreads to move to, and a confirmed townie would be a great person to lead the way.

Believe me, I'm not the person to lead the way. I've played 1 Mafia game, and I got Vig-killed in the middle of Day 2. I've only scumread 1 person (correctly though).

I've already stated my current reads (take them with the grain of salt I stated above) to Tom, but for your convenience, I've put them below:

What do you think of the other players so far? Got any scumreads? Townreads?

Squiggs appears to be actively trying to pursue scum, this, along with his "gut reads" really makes his suspicious in my opinion. He's trying to base his reads off of basically nothing.

You & Carl, in my opinion, are acting like a town, and certainly appear to be trying to find the real scum rather than scapegoating people.

[EspressoPatronum]

I'm conflicted on my initial read of Chippie, either he is a total retard (as I initially thought), or really playing into 'I'm so VT guys I can't be scum guys' people have done stuff like that in meta before. So, idk, I'm conflicted on him too early for me to say.

Chippe is giving me PTSD flashbacks to the first half of your D1 gameplay in M1007. I don't know if I can handle something like that again.

[ChippeRock]

I'm curious now, how many ways are there to definitely prove vt?

Here's what I thought of:
1 screenshot of Pm
2 flavour post from Gm telling us so
3 If there was a difference between role pms sent and publicly posted
4 Other role confirms it.

I posted the evidence, perfectly legal, that can be used by a good portion of the players here to definitively prove I'm VT. I've also left hints as to what I'm trying to imply is the smoking gun about my evidence. Hopefully someone independently discovers the smoking gun.

[Carl Tuckerson]

Y'all seem to have a strong sense of urgency. There's still 42 hours left in D1.

Remember we have approximately 30 million players in this game. Lot of people to work through.
Like you! And Tom! Ask him whatever you wanted me to ask him already, you know what you’re looking for more than I do

[Carl Tuckerson]

I'm curious now, how many ways are there to definitely prove vt?

Here's what I thought of:
1 screenshot of Pm
2 flavour post from Gm telling us so
3 If there was a difference between role pms sent and publicly posted
4 Other role confirms it.

I thought for sure he was getting at #3 but he isn’t because the role PM for Jailer is the same so I assume the role PM for VT must be too. Unless a VT wants to confirm this?
If only we had a confirmed VT..........

[Percy Williams]

I'm curious now, how many ways are there to definitely prove vt?

Here's what I thought of:
1 screenshot of Pm
2 flavour post from Gm telling us so
3 If there was a difference between role pms sent and publicly posted
4 Other role confirms it.

I posted the evidence, perfectly legal, that can be used by a good portion of the players here to definitively prove I'm VT. I've also left hints as to what I'm trying to imply is the smoking gun about my evidence. Hopefully someone independently discovers the smoking gun.

Can you draw us a map in MS paint to all of your hints?

[Percy Williams]

I'm curious now, how many ways are there to definitely prove vt?

Here's what I thought of:
1 screenshot of Pm
2 flavour post from Gm telling us so
3 If there was a difference between role pms sent and publicly posted
4 Other role confirms it.

I thought for sure he was getting at #3 but he isn’t because the role PM for Jailer is the same so I assume the role PM for VT must be too. Unless a VT wants to confirm this?
If only we had a confirmed VT..........

Are you hard claiming Jailer?

[Carl Tuckerson]

I'm curious now, how many ways are there to definitely prove vt?

Here's what I thought of:
1 screenshot of Pm
2 flavour post from Gm telling us so
3 If there was a difference between role pms sent and publicly posted
4 Other role confirms it.

I thought for sure he was getting at #3 but he isn’t because the role PM for Jailer is the same so I assume the role PM for VT must be too. Unless a VT wants to confirm this?
If only we had a confirmed VT..........

Are you hard claiming Jailer?

Am I what?

[ND]

I'm conflicted on my initial read of Chippie, either he is a total retard (as I initially thought), or really playing into 'I'm so VT guys I can't be scum guys' people have done stuff like that in meta before. So, idk, I'm conflicted on him too early for me to say.

Chippe is giving me PTSD flashbacks to the first half of your D1 gameplay in M1007. I don't know if I can handle something like that again.

That traumatic huh? I don't see it, except for the singular fact that he is drawing a lot of focus.

[Balki Bartokomous]

Role PM for Hooker is the exact same.

[Carl Tuckerson]

Oh. Duh.
No of course not, the role PM for the VT is the same so I assume the role PM for the Jailer must be too.

I mean, uh, wouldn’t YOU like to know, Percy? Why do you need to know who the Jailer is, huh?

[Percy Williams]

I'm curious now, how many ways are there to definitely prove vt?

Here's what I thought of:
1 screenshot of Pm
2 flavour post from Gm telling us so
3 If there was a difference between role pms sent and publicly posted
4 Other role confirms it.

I thought for sure he was getting at #3 but he isn’t because the role PM for Jailer is the same so I assume the role PM for VT must be too. Unless a VT wants to confirm this?
If only we had a confirmed VT..........

This post is written from the perspective of a jailer.

[ChippeRock]

I'm curious now, how many ways are there to definitely prove vt?

Here's what I thought of:
1 screenshot of Pm
2 flavour post from Gm telling us so
3 If there was a difference between role pms sent and publicly posted
4 Other role confirms it.

I thought for sure he was getting at #3 but he isn’t because the role PM for Jailer is the same so I assume the role PM for VT must be too. Unless a VT wants to confirm this?
If only we had a confirmed VT..........

Even if it were #3, I wouldn't be able to legally let you know.

[Carl Tuckerson]

Role PM for Hooker is the exact same.

No one asked about your side gig, Balki

[Percy Williams]

Oh. Duh.
No of course not, the role PM for the VT is the same so I assume the role PM for the Jailer must be too.

I mean, uh, wouldn’t YOU like to know, Percy? Why do you need to know who the Jailer is, huh?

Because... I AM THE Jailer (Ran out of Breath in that yell)
You killed my father, prepare to die.