Mafia 46 - Ace Attorney - GAME THREAD

[ND]

like, wtf lol? How is there definitive evidence of anyything like after half a day of the first phase?

[Carl Tuckerson]

Aw he left. And right as things were getting interesting...

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Prado, how come you never asked Tom about his read on Chippe?

[xorxes]

I'm starting to get some town v town vibes in the Carl / Squiggs squabble

I think Carl is town, and Squigs might be as well.

[TrPrado]

Not really. If everyone definitively knows I'm a VT, than I won't be mislynched nor will Mafia NK me - as they have bigger fish to fry than a VT.

You realize this is a team game...right?

Yes. The benefit of knowing (definitively, which there is definitive evidence for my being a VT) I'm a VT is that I don't get mislynched - which means a higher chance of town lynching scum. It's a win-win.

Until scum decide to get rid of that higher chance of lynching scum and go for someone "everyone knows" is town...

[ChippeRock]

Please share you reads on someone else Chippee.

Even if you somehow have proof you are VT, pointing that out D1 is terrible town play anyway

Not really. If everyone definitively knows I'm a VT, than I won't be mislynched nor will Mafia NK me - as they have bigger fish to fry than a VT.

Mafia NKing VTs is good for town, as a VT you want to draw the Mafia NK, not escape from it.

Town not lynching VTs is even better for town.

[ChippeRock]

You realize this is a team game...right?

Yes. The benefit of knowing (definitively, which there is definitive evidence for my being a VT) I'm a VT is that I don't get mislynched - which means a higher chance of town lynching scum. It's a win-win.

Until scum decide to get rid of that higher chance of lynching scum and go for someone "everyone knows" is town...

Sure, than they wasted their NK on a VT instead of someone who isn't a VT. That's their loss.

[Percy Williams]

Jesus give me strength bcoz that was alot to read omg. Some real highlights in there though. Between Fox playing ultra serious, ‘oh no jokes plz mommy’ and Darg doin wat? Eating fucking popcorn and chiding me while throwing out compliments? Then we got Squigs throwing around his ‘gut reads’ after someone posts, half of which make no sense to anyone him included because it’s total bull shit. Then a real winner (not) Teacon re-playing last game and voting Moscow? Lol, wtf? New guys: (ET/CON) are super freaky fishy dudes. Carl, I don’t even know guy is real tryhard thu. Chippie, about what I expected. A true retard right there. Drugna? Doing nothing as usual truly an idiot.

God damn what a sack of shit this game is already

Town - he actually read the thread.

Someone reading the thread is all it takes now?

[ChippeRock]

like, wtf lol? How is there definitive evidence of anyything like after half a day of the first phase?

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

[TrPrado]

Aw he left. And right as things were getting interesting...

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Prado, how come you never asked Tom about his read on Chippe?

Let's do it at the same time!

[Durga]

like, wtf lol? How is there definitive evidence of anyything like after half a day of the first phase?

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

i need the emoji of the man slamming his head into the wall

[TrPrado]

##VOTE CHIPPEROCK

[Carl Tuckerson]

like, wtf lol? How is there definitive evidence of anyything like after half a day of the first phase?

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

So let’s just assume you are a VT.
What do we do now?

[Percy Williams]

Please share you reads on someone else Chippee.

Even if you somehow have proof you are VT, pointing that out D1 is terrible town play anyway

Not really. If everyone definitively knows I'm a VT, than I won't be mislynched nor will Mafia NK me - as they have bigger fish to fry than a VT.

It is a very short term strategy but with over 20 players it could be worth it.

[ND]

like, wtf lol? How is there definitive evidence of anyything like after half a day of the first phase?

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

i need the emoji of the man slamming his head into the wall

I'm scared bcoz I agree with you rn.

[EspressoPatronum]

like, wtf lol? How is there definitive evidence of anyything like after half a day of the first phase?

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

I've literally played hundreds of Mafia and Werewolf games (IRL, not forum) and have yet to see a VT come up with DEFINITIVE proof they are a VT without either (a) cheating or (b) having the assistance of a PR that had a night zero ability.

I have a question for you that hinges on some facts.
1. I give you a box of crayons with 5 crayons in it.
2. I turn around.
3. You remove 3 crayons.
4. I face you again (not knowing that you've removed crayons).

How many crayons would I think are in the box?

Sorry if this is a bit patronizing, but I'm seeing literally 0 ways of you accomplishing what you say you're accomplishing UNLESS you don't have a theory of mind, lol.

[Carl Tuckerson]

Guys, I really don’t think Chippe is mafia from his behavior so far.
He may well be mafia, but his shtick about being VT is not the reason.
I have a strong gut feeling he will flip VT and we will collectively cope by saying “well he was being obtuse and unhelpful and making useless posts” despite knowing deep down that our goal isn’t to kill unhelpful people but to kill mafia.

Chippe is known for being a rock. Can we stop trying to get water from him?

In particular, I would like to know why everyone is townreading Squigs. I understand not being sold that he is mafia yet, but I also don’t see what he has done to earn a town read either.

[ChippeRock]

like, wtf lol? How is there definitive evidence of anyything like after half a day of the first phase?

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

So let’s just assume you are a VT.
What do we do now?

Well, assuming the definitive evidence I'm a VT is found and everyone knows I'm VT, that means there's one less person to consider for lynching. It means that people who have voted for me will have to move their vote to their 2nd most scummy read (or get lynched, since there's proof I'm a VT), and we have a greater chance of lynching scum. Additionally, other players' interactions with me can be analyzed to determine whether or not its Town v Town or Mafia v Town.

[Carl Tuckerson]

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

So let’s just assume you are a VT.
What do we do now?

Well, assuming the definitive evidence I'm a VT is found and everyone knows I'm VT, that means there's one less person to consider for lynching. It means that people who have voted for me will have to move their vote to their 2nd most scummy read (or get lynched, since there's proof I'm a VT), and we have a greater chance of lynching scum. Additionally, other players' interactions with me can be analyzed to determine whether or not its Town v Town or Mafia v Town.

Well, since the definitive evidence that you’re a VT is clearly somewhere in the thread I’m sure all the sleuths in here will find it and exonerate you in short order. So let’s just say they already did.
Who’s your first scumread? Some of us don’t have second scumreads to move to, and a confirmed townie would be a great person to lead the way.

[ChippeRock]

like, wtf lol? How is there definitive evidence of anyything like after half a day of the first phase?

I promise you, in my posts, there is definitive evidence I'm a VT. A couple of you were actually on the right track to finding that evidence too.

I've literally played hundreds of Mafia and Werewolf games (IRL, not forum) and have yet to see a VT come up with DEFINITIVE proof they are a VT without either (a) cheating or (b) having the assistance of a PR that had a night zero ability.

I have a question for you that hinges on some facts.
1. I give you a box of crayons with 5 crayons in it.
2. I turn around.
3. You remove 3 crayons.
4. I face you again (not knowing that you've removed crayons).

How many crayons would I think are in the box?

Sorry if this is a bit patronizing, but I'm seeing literally 0 ways of you accomplishing what you say you're accomplishing UNLESS you don't have a theory of mind, lol.

I've not broken the rules (or at least my posts with the proof didn't; perhaps my hints did, but I tried keeping it legal). I promise you, I accomplished what you don't think I could of accomplished - the only thing that might of been illegal were my hints that I tried lending you guys so that you could independently definitively prove I'm a VT.

[Percy Williams]

Guys, I really don’t think Chippe is mafia from his behavior so far.
He may well be mafia, but his shtick about being VT is not the reason.
I have a strong gut feeling he will flip VT and we will collectively cope by saying “well he was being obtuse and unhelpful and making useless posts” despite knowing deep down that our goal isn’t to kill unhelpful people but to kill mafia.

Chippe is known for being a rock. Can we stop trying to get water from him?

In particular, I would like to know why everyone is townreading Squigs. I understand not being sold that he is mafia yet, but I also don’t see what he has done to earn a town read either.

I completely agree with you here carl, I don't think Chippe is scum. The only way his actions make sense as scum is if Chippe is a master of Wifom.I

And Squiggs focus on catching scum, and giving honest open reads gives him town vibes, but what he has done is shaky, and easy to fake as scum.