MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[Jamiet99uk]

@Jamie & @worcej

would you both vote for bozo?

I'm considering voting for you, Damo, the way you're trying to launch multiple new wagons at this crucial moment.

Why are you already seeking to leave the Yav wagon you recently started?

We need to consolidate, not spread out onto an array of new wagons. Scum will win the game, for certain, if there isn't a strong lead wagon soon.

Damo, look at Worcej again and in particular look at my recent interactions with him, and tell me if you're still sure he's town? If you genuinely, on re-read, think Worcej and I are both town, then pick your top scumread and make a proper case on them.

Otherwise your choice is me, or Worcej.

[Jamiet99uk]

[Seriously though, it's funny how I was so town to you for D2, which I thought was pocketing me (which got you caught once) but I chose to let it go...

This has already been clearly explained, which you are well aware of.

On D2 I town read you because I thought you were soft-claiming Doc. The Doctor is a Town role, you know.

And it's shit because I've explained how that's not how I would soft something, that I wouldn't soft it, and that I would've actually made more of an effort to make the doctor claim well before the EOD to get a CC out to get the real doctor.

All of this case is predicated on you believing my post was a doctor soft. Bozo, your scumbro, backing that up does create an illusion of building credibility that I hope people can see through.

I don't care if you think it's shit. That was GENUINELY the reason I town read you on D2. I can't give you any other explanation, becuase this is the truth.

[worcej]

of the 5 people currently on worcej and Jamie there are at least 2 scum, probably 3.

If we take both worcej and Jamie impassioned defences as indicative of town then we have a likely scum team of yav flav and bozo.

Jamie, worcej and vapor you should join me on yav.

Why do you think scum would not defend themselves? I am sure both worcej and Jamie would aggressively defend themselves as scum. I am fairly confident worcej is scum here, there are too many questionable things from him for me to believe they all are coming from a town.

The same argument applies to both Jaime and you - he's been tunneling and your evidence is weak with easy explanations how they are not true.

[worcej]

@Jamie & @worcej

would you both vote for bozo?

I echo Jamie's opinion, it's me or him. I 100% believe he is scum based on how he has played to this point.

[worcej]

@Jamie & @worcej

would you both vote for bozo?

I'm considering voting for you, Damo, the way you're trying to launch multiple new wagons at this crucial moment.

Why are you already seeking to leave the Yav wagon you recently started?

We need to consolidate, not spread out onto an array of new wagons. Scum will win the game, for certain, if there isn't a strong lead wagon soon.

Damo, look at Worcej again and in particular look at my recent interactions with him, and tell me if you're still sure he's town? If you genuinely, on re-read, think Worcej and I are both town, then pick your top scumread and make a proper case on them.

Otherwise your choice is me, or Worcej.

To be fair, he is trying to with pushing bozo, who I also scumread, but I 100% believe your scum Jaime.

[worcej]

Alternate reality humor: Jamie is actually town and this is TvT with damo, bozo, and yav or vapor as the 3rd scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

Alternate reality humor: Jamie is actually town and this is TvT with damo, bozo, and yav or vapor as the 3rd scum.

Oh dear God I hope not.

[worcej]

Alternate reality humor: Jamie is actually town and this is TvT with damo, bozo, and yav or vapor as the 3rd scum.

Oh dear God I hope not.

We'll see in 7 hours.

[worcej]

Honest to god, I am town. Have been all game. My town game is 100% to go ape shit and defend, my scum game is to roll over, since I really don't scum enough to be good to hide anything - look how fast I was scum read on D1 in M44! Every scan possibility was aimed at me!

Jamie did, bozo did, and darg did (though he got lasered on N1)

[Jamiet99uk]

Worcej, given that you agree there's a risk of scum deciding the lynch, would you mind removing your endvote?

[worcej]

Honest to god, I am town. Have been all game. My town game is 100% to go ape shit and defend, my scum game is to roll over, since I really don't scum enough to be good to hide anything - look how fast I was scum read on D1 in M44! Every scan possibility was aimed at me!

Jamie did, bozo did, and darg did (though he got lasered on N1)

Every scan possibility on D1 was aimed at me! - forgot that part.

[worcej]

Worcej, given that you agree there's a risk of scum deciding the lynch, would you mind removing your endvote?

Doesn't really matter. I am all-in on scum reading you. I'll go to end game with no regrets about it if I am wrong.

[worcej]

Because lets face it Jamie, if you actually are town, you've had an abysmal game and it would probably turn out to be one of your worst games you've probably played here (from at least the games I've read and watched)

[worcej]

The only people I would willingly listen to at this point to move would be Jamie, bozo, and Vapor because they've actually demonstrated trying and analysis this game. Considering I am lasered on Jamie and bozo as scum for the reasons I've said multiple times, Vapor is the only one I'd consider listening to.

Yav has been in and out, probably due to IRL stuff, and has provided comments over some days, but not much today.

I've said enough about damo.

Flavius is new and has been notoriously sheeping players all game. No analysis is happening on his end and if it is, he is doing it through a set of shitty glasses that ignores the fact that this game is all about lying and misinformation.

[worcej]

Also, to the town people, think this through logically: if I am scum, who the fuck is my team? Like, seriously who? Who have I worked with so far to setup lynches during this game?

I'll help you find the answer: The answer is no one, because I am fucking town. I've spent more time arguing that Jamie and bozo are scum for the past 3 phases than anything else. I didn't support lynching Claesar at all. I knew a lurker like MF would be NK'ed because I am the easy mislynch to push at end game.

The defense for Jamie so far is 'he's just town.' Please, name something he's done that's helped town recently? Xorxes doesn't count because he didn't push him, he came along for the ride.

[FlaviusAetius]

You still didnt answer the question worcej
You called jamie leading the townspeople is him being a mafia
then you said his lack of leading the townspeople is being a mafia
I then point out you are leading the townspeople, how does the same not apply??
You ignore ignore and ignore...

[Jamiet99uk]

Because lets face it Jamie, if you actually are town, you've had an abysmal game and it would probably turn out to be one of your worst games you've probably played here (from at least the games I've read and watched)

You have been better?

Which scum have you caught?

[FlaviusAetius]

I think your teamed with vapor and damo @worcej probably yav too

[Jamiet99uk]

You still didnt answer the question worcej
You called jamie leading the townspeople is him being a mafia
then you said his lack of leading the townspeople is being a mafia

This is a good point. Worcej never answered why he directly contradicted himself.

[worcej]

You still didnt answer the question worcej
You called jamie leading the townspeople is him being a mafia
then you said his lack of leading the townspeople is being a mafia
I then point out you are leading the townspeople, how does the same not apply??
You ignore ignore and ignore...

HE IS WOLFING! I HAVE SAID THAT NUMEROUS TIMES!!!! HE IS 'LEADING' BY PROMOTING MISLYNCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM NOT TRYING TO MISLYNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I AM NOT IGNORING YOUR QUESTION, YOU'RE JUST NOT LISTENING TO WHAT I AM SAYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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