MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[worcej]

@bozo - in regards to xorxes, I think it is pretty well established if he is still alive beyond N3 that he is probably scum.

It is also a convenient excuse if you want to bus him D4.

Prior to this, I am already being scum read for pretty much existing this game. Do you think I would be stupid enough to think bussing Xorxes would be a positive move for my team at that point? I would've suggested the exact opposite in this context - that they should bus me.

[e.m.c^42]

The GM is tired, the flavor expired,

Please place your expectations in the future.

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Vote Count
Clae (5) bozo, damo, dargo, jamie, vapor
worcej (1) flavius
bozo (1) worcej
jamie (1) yavuz

End Votes (2/5) darg, jamie
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Lot's of time left.

[Claesar]

#GM Note
Flavour names are 100% Non Alignment Indicative. We made the flavour names before assigning roles, with the exception of Cleaser's current name. His original name was "beeg cheef" as a pun on ceaser, but I understand it, he requested a flavour change. Vecna's Flavour name was Vek nah, but it auto corrected to the actual name. I not worried about you looking at flavour names, but it is a complete waste of your time.

Oh, I thought it referred to Notorious B.I.G., East-coast rapper. So I figured: If we can find the West-coast rappers..
...

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Ooga! East Cave unite! I'm ready to die, for there's life after death and I will be born again!
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My townclear is going to be a bit cheeky, but it comes down to these two posts. When I read my flavour name, "Beeg cheef", I thought it referred to East-coast rapper Notorious B.I.G., which made sense as I was East coast. That's why I referenced some of his song titles in one of my first posts.

I then figured later on that we could find scum by having everyone's flavour name and finding out who the West-coast rappers were.. That's the second post I've quoted above.

If you don't want to use this because this out-of-game info, then that's fine. But don't come crying later. I couldn't have faked this.

This post is cut short because I'm feeling very dizzy. I'll try to answer Damo with my scumlist, though few people will like what I have to say about that.

[dargorygel]

Sorry you're not feeling well.
Drink water.

Also... is this the scumslip, then? Someone else mentioned a name or something?

[Jamiet99uk]

#GM Note
Flavour names are 100% Non Alignment Indicative. We made the flavour names before assigning roles, with the exception of Cleaser's current name. His original name was "beeg cheef" as a pun on ceaser, but I understand it, he requested a flavour change. Vecna's Flavour name was Vek nah, but it auto corrected to the actual name. I not worried about you looking at flavour names, but it is a complete waste of your time.

Oh, I thought it referred to Notorious B.I.G., East-coast rapper. So I figured: If we can find the West-coast rappers..
...

...
Ooga! East Cave unite! I'm ready to die, for there's life after death and I will be born again!
...

My townclear is going to be a bit cheeky, but it comes down to these two posts. When I read my flavour name, "Beeg cheef", I thought it referred to East-coast rapper Notorious B.I.G., which made sense as I was East coast. That's why I referenced some of his song titles in one of my first posts.

I then figured later on that we could find scum by having everyone's flavour name and finding out who the West-coast rappers were.. That's the second post I've quoted above.

If you don't want to use this because this out-of-game info, then that's fine. But don't come crying later. I couldn't have faked this.

This post is cut short because I'm feeling very dizzy. I'll try to answer Damo with my scumlist, though few people will like what I have to say about that.

Why does any of this town-clear you in any way at all?

We all know that East is town and West is mafia. That flavour was made public.

[Jamiet99uk]

#GM Note
Flavour names are 100% Non Alignment Indicative.

[dargorygel]

Claesar... when you wake up.
THIS is the quote we are wondering about.
What did this mean?
Claesar
Day-2 03:45
page 62 / orig
↑Vaporwave: "let's do this

##VOTE dargo"
Wow, that's a scumslip! Stop the presses, we got him.

##vote Vapourwave

[Jamiet99uk]

Claesar... when you wake up.
THIS is the quote we are wondering about.
What did this mean?
Claesar
Day-2 03:45
page 62 / orig
↑Vaporwave: "let's do this

##VOTE dargo"
Wow, that's a scumslip! Stop the presses, we got him.

##vote Vapourwave

You realise you just voted for Vaporwave?

[dargorygel]

No.... I didn't... I cut and pasted from the bot.
Thanks
##VOTE CLAESAR

[dargorygel]

##End

[Jamiet99uk]

I don't even have a flavour name, but in any case, the GM has said that the flavour names are not alignment indicative. It appears Claesar is attempting to use the GM to townclear him in some way, but I really don't see how he thinks what he posted clears him in any way.

[Claesar]

Most scummy, descending order:
Brainbomb- By spamming the entire thread to death, he prevented our town lurkers from participating in any way. At some point I glanced over a post by him that said "Whis is no one reading my posts??". It was nested between five of his other posts. None of them were related to the game in any way.

Bo- Suicide in D1, AGAIN. Should be banned from playing Mafia.

Ezio/Moose- Useless lurkers have lost us the game. Should be banned from playing Mafia.
Durga/MF- Useless lurkers have lost us the game.

Xorxes- Scum

Jamie- By spamming the entire thread to death, he prevented our town lurkers from participating in any way. He's not even reading what other people post, or making proper cases. He's merely pushing his own agenda. Serial town killer. Proven wrong in his reads, but still keeps screaming at anyone who doesn't follow his lead. That's not town play. Some of what he does is town though..

Claesar- Gave up playing the game with the right amount of energy when it was mathematically lost, which others didn't understand at the time. Scumlean by Vecna towards the end.

Yavuz- Scumread by Vecna and Nephthys. Hasn't really been in the game and makes odd decisions (in my opinion). All his final votes have been horrible (Nephthys, and 3x no lynch!).

Bozo- Has lynched 3 townies during the day. Was one of the last to vote Xorxes, but still didn't end-vote. Hoping another wagon would come?

Vapourwave- There's something about his posts I haven't been liking. I can't quote a specific thing. Voted for Bo together with Bozo and Xorxes. Refused to vote for Xorxes until the last moment. Was trying to get a wagon on MF going instead..


Most towny, descending order:
Rdrivera- Gave us Xorxes and thereby prevented a flawless scum victory. MVP.

Vecna- I love his style and he was making unbiased analyses. That's what town do. Died too young.

Scum NKs- Killing Vecna was smart, but after that?? If they had shot anyone other than MF, Durga and Rdrivera, scum would've won already. Why take out lurkers? That doesn't help you take control of the day. And surely taking out Rdrivera wasn't worth losing Xorxes for.

Flavius- Has been trying to participate very well in his first game. Trying to read and question things. I feel it's genuine and I'm townleaning.

Unsure, alphabetical order:
Damo, Dargo, Worcej

[Claesar]

@Dargo: If I had a gun, I'd use it this phase. On Yavuz, because of what I posted above.

[Claesar]

Claesar... when you wake up.
THIS is the quote we are wondering about.
What did this mean?
...

You're misquoting it. Let me get the original post.

[Claesar]

You're misquoting it. Let me get the original post.

I see that's not your fault though. If you click "orig" in Peterbot, you see my actual post. I'll link it here: viewtopic.php?p=73960#p73960


The posts by Brainbomb and Worcej are what it's about. I don't understand how you can quote those two posts and the come to the conclusion to vote for you (Dargo). It's the opposite of the train of thought those posts are going at! Just read them in order and explain to me how that happens.

That said, I wasn't sure. This is why I posted it without an explanation, hoping others would reread and come to the same conclusion. Like I said earlier, I like people reaching their own conclusions rather than me pushing an agenda. I'm an analyst, not a town crier. Nobody picked up on it though, so it seems I was wrong. We'll see.

[Claesar]

Vote ##Yavuz for the reasons outlined above.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie- By spamming the entire thread to death, he prevented our town lurkers from participating in any way. He's not even reading what other people post, (FALSE: I have been reading the entire thread. It's painful but you can be damn sure I'm doing it)

or making proper cases (FALSE: I posted several detailed ISOs, including one on you which you claim contains errors or missing information BUT WHICH YOU WILL NOT RESPOND TO).

He's merely pushing his own agenda. (FALSE: I am trying to find the scum. That is my agenda because I want town to win)

Serial town killer. Proven wrong in his reads, but still keeps screaming at anyone who doesn't follow his lead (FALSE: The only person I have screamed at recently is you, and that's because YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS).

That's not town play (AND YOUR PLAY IS "TOWN PLAY"??? GO. FUCK. YOUR. SELF. ASS. HOLE.)

Some of what he does is town though.

[Jamiet99uk]

[thread dies]

[FlaviusAetius]

Just quickly checking in before my real post. I see one question by non-scum, from Damo: "Who's scum?". A bit disappointing there aren't more questions, but oh well. There's stilk some time.

I cant accept this...
brainbomb himself said impassioned defenses are the best way to know someone's true intentions...
and you are just giving up???
Im beginning to think you aren't town anymore prove me wrong please

[FlaviusAetius]

ALSO Jamie you said you would give Cleasar a total of FOUR posts to defend himself, he didnt do that yet, I know he will defend himself, Im sure of it
Then you will see clearly that Clesar isnt a mafia...