MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[Vaporwave]

if you guys think I remember every single small detail of this wretched game, think again

I also thought worcej praised xorxes for doing a great scum game, but it was in fact dargo

I'm not painting anything, I was trying to get bozo to clarify. Still think worcej could be scum, but only for his reaction with damo, that's it.

Don't think he should be voted next tho, there are others more suspect

[Vaporwave]

every single one of you have a big OMGUS chip on your shoulders

I've never seen a player that acts cool when someone suspects him

[Vaporwave]

maybe dargo

he is cool tho

[dargorygel]

ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING?
IN THIS CASE ALL SCUM ARE ON XORXES WHICH MEANS XORXES IS TOWN.

Did I miss an explanation of this YavuOutburst?

[Claesar]

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I've never seen a player that acts cool when someone suspects him

Yes, you did.

@Dargo: Yes, you did.

[dargorygel]

I enjoin you to go ahead and end this night... no reason to drag it out. Scum probably knows who they are going to NK already.

I will lynch tomorrow amoung: Claesar, bozo, worcej, and yavu.

I am a little worried about Jamiet, too.

Claesar: He did a rotten job ruling Rome. Here he is withdrawn, lurky, and I particularly don't like his giving up attitude. Tastes like a scummy trying to discourage us overmuch.
bozo: Bad hair, and too large of feet. Here he doesn't seem to follow through. Hasn't applied his Big Bozo Brain. Least of my scumreads, though.
worcej: Maybe not the worst "J" in here, or his name would be "Worcet j." Lots of explanations why I scumread him. His interaction over this night have felt more and more defensive scum.
Yavu: For some reason, I always think of Yogi Bear... He posts just to post. Anger at our lynch of xorxes is overpressed, without explanation.

I'll try to be in for maybe some discussion about order... or disagreement. (I expect at least these four to disagree... and I am interested in that. But also in what others think of these four. Or someone I've missed.)

[dargorygel]

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I've never seen a player that acts cool when someone suspects him

Yes, you did.

@Dargo: Yes, you did.

AH...yes,I did.
"That's weird, I scumread xorxes but when I saw everyone were on him - I didn't read the thread I only looked at peterbot."

Hmmm....

[worcej]

every single one of you have a big OMGUS chip on your shoulders

I've never seen a player that acts cool when someone suspects him

Yes, people really think poorly when you OMGUS, so that’s why I go all in.

Also, a lot of the time when someone doesn’t actually react to being pushed, they are typically scum.

[dargorygel]

every single one of you have a big OMGUS chip on your shoulders

I've never seen a player that acts cool when someone suspects him

Yes, people really think poorly when you OMGUS, so that’s why I go all in.

Also, a lot of the time when someone doesn’t actually react to being pushed, they are typically scum.

The theory I am thinking through... is that in THIS game where our cases are not very casish... OMGUS is more likely. To me, OMGUS is emotional reaction without brain-use. Here, it seems more inexorable to OMGUS because there is little brain stuff to react to.
So I am not sure that OMGUS is really AI in this game.
I do agree that ignoring accusations IS AI.

[worcej]

every single one of you have a big OMGUS chip on your shoulders

I've never seen a player that acts cool when someone suspects him

Yes, people really think poorly when you OMGUS, so that’s why I go all in.

Also, a lot of the time when someone doesn’t actually react to being pushed, they are typically scum.

The theory I am thinking through... is that in THIS game where our cases are not very casish... OMGUS is more likely. To me, OMGUS is emotional reaction without brain-use. Here, it seems more inexorable to OMGUS because there is little brain stuff to react to.
So I am not sure that OMGUS is really AI in this game.
I do agree that ignoring accusations IS AI.

That's an interesting statement to unpack right there... I think OMGUS actually contains serious brain use in some cases, especially when the accused puts the effort in to point out the issues with what people are saying.

My case against you has been labeled as OMGUS because most of your scum attention/hunting has been pointed at me with not much changing over the course of these days. You pushed a, imho, fabricated image of me being 'better than this' early in a game and continue to state I am in your scum pool. Your reasons for why I am scum now don't even get repeated, just 'Lots of explanations why I scumread him. His interaction over this night have felt more and more defensive scum.'

Let's expand more on that last bit - do you not see that Vapor just tried to misrepresent me? The proof is in the bot - where did I ever scum read xorxes on D2 when I was being defended?

And why did Vapor say it? Because he decide to piggy-back Bozo's comment:

I think the scum were bussing early and often.

[Vaporwave]

I made no misrepresentation, I FORGOT details and misremembered how it happened. Since I'm sure won't care about this, it doesn't matter.

Anyway, he votes me, I'm voting for him. Beard for beard so to speak, the ball in his court

It irritates me that he EXPANDS on such a minuscule thing

[Vaporwave]

there was no piggy-backing on bozo, I FORGOT all the fucking details

you know what, fuck this shit

I'm voting you next phase, I'm pissed off right now cause now you are trying to scumpaint me for no reason

bozo is trying to take your head off openly, you give no shit but you come after me for not understanding something? Well, it's on, baby!

[damo666]

Where I am at:

Bozo: typical logic based posts sounding town but there is something I can't quite put my finger on that makes me think he might be scum

Claesar: been strange all game, scumlean

dargo: have been fairly convinced of towniness throughout, assume town

Jamie: probtown from the vibes of his posts but capable of playing a deep scum game, fond of bussing when scum

Flavius: game is not strong due to inexperience and youth and therefore somewhat difficult to read but more townfeel than vv so am giving benefit of the doubt for now

Moscow: not a lot to gauge, ???

Vapor: didn't like the doc thing but now fairly convinced he is town

worcej: sounding like impassioned town but could be a scum disguise, really don't know

Yav: think that last mistake was a genuine error, doubt the ability to act the way he has as scum, assuming town

So: Claesar + 2 from Moscow/bozo/worcej/Jamie or (less likely) 3 from latter 4. Any combo including both bozo and Jamie excluded.

[Vaporwave]

I bet the fucking scum won't kill me tonight and give me peace

[Vaporwave]

he's the fucking hooker, he can't stand for people to talk about him

I'm voting for worcej, I wanted Claesar first, but worcej is prickly like a porcupine

[Vaporwave]

worcej, this is official, since you're trying to scumpaint me:

I'M COMING AFTER YOU, YES, NOW BECAUSE YOU WANTED SO BADLY to search in my dish for some spices

I'll give you oriental condiments. This wasn't my purpose to paint or scumread you, I was confused by your weird-worded quote on xorxes which your shiny ass has used to talk to others about me slipping or whatnot

YOU'VE UNLEASHED the animal within me

[Vaporwave]

Flaetius has a newbie innocent vibe that's hard to replicate

doesn't take that much charge, first sheeps then starts to make his own conclusions, I'm not seeing much guidance

leaning more town than scum, but only by a small margin

[yavuzovic]

ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING?
IN THIS CASE ALL SCUM ARE ON XORXES WHICH MEANS XORXES IS TOWN.

Did I miss an explanation of this YavuOutburst?

I didn't read the thread, I was thinking all the mafia were on xorxes as well as towns. That was right but I was wrong about Xorxes' alignment

[bozotheclown]

ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING?
IN THIS CASE ALL SCUM ARE ON XORXES WHICH MEANS XORXES IS TOWN.

Did I miss an explanation of this YavuOutburst?

I didn't read the thread, I was thinking all the mafia were on xorxes as well as towns. That was right but I was wrong about Xorxes' alignment

Who were you asking if they were aware of what they were doing?

[bozotheclown]

xorxes only voted once each day, for bo_sox, dargorygel, and brainbomb. It is a small sample size, but the pattern does not indicate he was bussing dargorygel.