MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[worcej]

And the more I scream, the more I rage, the MORE I MAKE LOUD NOISES ON MY KEYBOARD, you won't forget me. The town will remember my spirit as I giggle in the God thread at bad plays and how the scum clearly are owning the town so far.

You'll remember me post-flip. You'll take what I am saying more seriously. So that the town wins, thus I end up winning.

This game SCREAMS of a game where a smart scum would push people for mislynches. There is no investigation PR, just a doctor. They are 100% safe from mechanics. They need to come off as town and get dumb sheep to town-clear them.

so I'm town then

QED

I've said numerous times that I think you are town and being a sheep.

[worcej]

Town: I have presented to you a confirmed, proven liar. That he is a proven liar is a matter of irrefutable fact. Meanwhile, the case on Worcej is weak and based on nothing I can even engage with.

Lynch the proven liar. Lynch Netphtyhs.

I stand that I think darg should hang first. Of course I will move the vote to save my ass, but I legit see more scheming out of darg's moves than what Neph is doing.

[worcej]

I'm at school so I can't look at peterbot, can someone tell me the latest votes? I want to see who isn't voting worcej right now, cause there's just too much evidence against him not to vote him out

he didnt talk in the first day that much, except to fight vecna...

vecna who also thought worcej was a mafia, conveniently DIED

when first accused worcej didnt even defend himself

then he defends himself without deciding anyone else?

then the one person he decides to vote for...is DARG who we basically confirmed he as a townsperson

sorry worcej what other evidence do we need at this point

Wow, just wow...

You're definitely in the running for worst player we got. Let's start with that.

1. If I was scum, I would NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER let my team kill Vecna because that connection existed. Just an FYI - that would make sheep like you make that connection.

2. I didn't defend myself D1? Yeah, because D1 is shit. I've discussed how I play D1 usually already. RTFT.

3. Again, read my post above. It highlights the fact that you can make any argument you want about my playstyle as scum - it comes up EVERY GAME that I am scummy for defending, for deflecting, for not participating, for OVER participating.

4. Where the fuck do you get Darg is confirmed town? Just because you like to be up his ass a lot doesn't make him town. No one is confirmed town in this game until you see their flip. You need to learn that bud.

1. Worcej please stop calling everyone useless. It really isn't productive/nice/accurate

2. So as scum you would never kill someone that has scum read you?

1. Problem is people who sheep ARE useless. They are easy to manipulate and don't benefit town. If that offends people, maybe they should get better reads instead of mooching off others?

2. When I am scum, I do not like to make my targets close to me and think it would be foolish to hit so close to home. Remember when I was SK? I was intentionally picking off lurkers/distant people so that some analysis person couldn't go 'hey look, these guys all died and they have some ~connection~ to worcej, we should lynch him!' This almost worked for me and I had a great chance to 3rd party win if scum would've stuck to their guns about Neph instead of last minute switching to me.

[worcej]

Just to be very clear once again.

Darg shaded me D1, his concept was he expected more from me. Continued the same line of thought that I wasn't being helpful like I normally am. Votes me D2. Been pretty distant with me since voting, only commenting at me once.

Neph never mentions my name once on D1 or N1. Go look everyone, not even one time on either phase. Then, comes after me on his 2nd post of D2 and votes me as if I am a strong scum case. Puts 4 bullshit points out there. I counter. Now he is for sure 100% locked in on me as scum. Am I the only one that thinks this sudden change from D1 to D2 is a little weird?

Flavius and Damo are sheeping and probably just shit towns. GJ boys... here's hoping you get better at mafia someday.

Brain is brain - I believe his case against me is predicated that he thinks my darg case is false. Believes I could create all sorts of scum possibilities if I flip scum, but otherwise can't seem to think I am town.

At this point, my VT flip is just going to be another lost town player and I'll get a few RIP's and be forgotten.

It's almost like we got more information, perhaps from a nightkill?

So because Vecna didn't like me, that makes me the best scum potential right now? Let's review this theory with your original case:

Yes yav is quite a decent scum possibility but today we should consider lynching worcej and that is probably the best cause so far.

- Vecna was the only person to seriously post against worcej from memory
- Worcej indicated that he wasn't keen to focus on lurkers, despite posting 3
times between that conversation and his post. This screams of looking for
cheap towncred.
- Has time to give feedback to the GMs about how to run the game but not time
to provide meaningful input
- His vote on Vecna was worthless. Vecna was not being scumread by anyone and
I showed last game that even when a lot of people consider him to be off he is
difficult to lynch, let alone D1 when he is the highest poster. It was an easy
option to go off wagon and not even attempt to bring someone else into
contention. This screams of scum that is content with the lynch.

So, because one person (who died) didn't like me, I would immediately call for the NK? If you seriously think I am that stupid, go ahead and lynch me - nothing I say will make you see reality and you can be the king of uselessness.

As stated, the remaining 3 points you made were stupid and forced imo. If my vote on Vecna was worthless, what about MF, Claesar, Darg, Yavu, and EM's? They all were on one vote wagons, they are just as equally useless but you never mentioned it early at all.

And are you kidding about me being scum because I scummed Vecna? Just because I am the only person to scum read Vecna isn't bad. Everyone starts at one person thinking they are scum. If you just auto-assume good players are town every game, you're destined to be bad and make the game easier for scum.

[worcej]

Lynch order should now be

Worcej -> yav -> Jamie

Jamie has gone too strongly in to defend Worcej that it only works as him being scum if we've got the team nailed.

You have never made a good case for why I am more important after you shaded yav and Jaime before ever mentioning me.

Vecna's death alone means nothing considering he BARELY pushed me and only voted for me for a total of 13 minutes before moving to rdr and finally yav at the last minute.

[worcej]

worcej is trying to set it up to look like im bussing him

Actually no, I don't believe you actually think I am scum. And I know for a fact if you are not convinced by now, nothing I say will change your mind.

Only a flip will prove it to you.

[worcej]

way too erratic in his stance on darg
in one instance calls him scum
the next accuses him of sheeping neph

he strangely never mentions me as sheeping despite the fact my vote is sheeping darg and neph.

You never sheep. You're Brain. You do whatever the hell you want.

[Jamiet99uk]

Guys isn't it now obvious Worcej is town?

Did you really miss it?

[Jamiet99uk]

Worcej, why are you convinced Darg is the best lynch?

[Jamiet99uk]

Durga seems to have passed out drunk.

Sad.

[worcej]

worcej is trying to set it up to look like im bussing him

Also why so angry as town being lynched. Yes it isn't ideal but it isn't catastrophic. We have min three mislynches left. A town in this position is better to leave a good trail, definite reads and give us something to go off.

Worcej's reaction is out of proportion for the situation.

My reaction is because if you're town you need to be better than this bullshit of reasoning you have for voting me and if you're scum, you are now easily caught.

I AM giving definitive reads on the shit cases you and darg have made. They are actually both different too, if you cared to read.

What's even better is now you're saying my emotional response means I am scum. Cool, fuck it. Darg, you get a pass today. I think removing the terrible reader/liar town player or possible scum pusher that sucked at it is in order.

##vote Neph

[worcej]

Worcej, why are you convinced Darg is the best lynch?

Not anymore. Neph has pissed me off enough that if he is town he needs to go because he will fail us down the road anyways.

[worcej]

ive known dargorygel for a long time. ive even met him in person.

I can certify he isnt scum. This is nowhere even close to his scum meta.

None of this matters in my analysis btw - it's all based on what he is doing now.

[Jamiet99uk]

I mean don't vote on the basis of emotion, Worcej.

I'm confident Neph is the right lynch, but voting for people because they make you angry is the sort of mistake I used to make.

No matter. Stay on Neph. Neph is scum.

[Vaporwave]

ive known dargorygel for a long time. ive even met him in person.

I can certify he isnt scum. This is nowhere even close to his scum meta.

None of this matters in my analysis btw - it's all based on what he is doing now.

let's do this

##VOTE dargo

[Jamiet99uk]

ive known dargorygel for a long time. ive even met him in person.

I can certify he isnt scum. This is nowhere even close to his scum meta.

None of this matters in my analysis btw - it's all based on what he is doing now.

let's do this

##VOTE dargo

Worcej is voting for Neph. If you want to "do this", so should you.

[Vaporwave]

ok so what happened to Durga

I want some Durga posts and of course the removal of that smelly expired vote that she got on me

[Claesar]

Could someone explain to me why Durga is towncleared often even though I haven't seen a single post from her that was related to this game?

[Jamiet99uk]

Could someone explain to me why Durga is towncleared often even though I haven't seen a single post from her that was related to this game?

Durga is not towncleared.

Nobody is currently towncleared.

Don't use words like "townclear" if you have no grasp of their meaning.

[Claesar]

ive known dargorygel for a long time. ive even met him in person.

I can certify he isnt scum. This is nowhere even close to his scum meta.

None of this matters in my analysis btw - it's all based on what he is doing now.

let's do this

##VOTE dargo

Wow, that's a scumslip! Stop the presses, we got him.

##vote Vapourwave