MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[Vaporwave]

Since bomb has arrived, this game was brought to life

Anyway, Jamiet wanting to get a wagon on Neph but still saying he prefers Clae first is no bueno

Also Neph vs Jamiet scuffle could have been scum theater.

[Vaporwave]

more certain on Jamiet flipping scum, if he doesn't, then Neph is clear but that back and forth between those two was mega fishy

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its fascinating how youve come to be yourself here vapor. unencumbered by the need for alts. accepted for your mind, your style. And its neat you opted to come to this arena where so many great mafia players call home.

Vecna is indeed a fun person and a sharp mafia mind. But so is bo. And the fact bo was lynched bothers me because its mostly unecessary. He adds value to any game. He really shouldnt be a day 1 ever.

Could you enlighten me a bit on why you dont suspect any bo voters are scum?

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[Vaporwave]

bo_sox shot himself in his foot by self-voting, can't blame any of his voters

[Claesar]

I'm almost updated. 10 more pages.

So far I haven't found a reason why Jamie wants to lynch me other than that I was forced to stop playing. Doesn't that sound weird? Jamie, could you clarify?

GM agreed with me and banned spoilers at my request, so I could play again after watching the episode.

I saw Vapour was being cleared because he wanted to play with Vecna, but the same is true for me. Vecna even posted about this in the sign-up of the mini-game. I would never lynch Vecna (N1).

[Claesar]

is it just me or is it really fun to say Claesars name alot, and talk about him excessively.

I still remember M16 when he was a mason and nearly won. God bless Claesar.

now lets club him to death

Nearly won? You were in a different game.. It just felt that way to you because you didn't know that Masons were failing horribly. N1 Chaqa suicided by trying to lynch the Ninja. N2 I tried to recruit Xorxes who was immediately killed. We should've been a 4-man team going into the endgame, but instead I was solo with no hope of victory..

[Claesar]

holy crap Vecna was solvy as fuck. how did anyone have him as scum. I havent even read all this but his nose is sharp. I recall him catching me after id made like 2 posts

I didnt find vecna particularly memorable.

One advantage of rereading is that you find these gems.

To answer Jamie(?), yes, I still think Ezio/bb is scum. It's less important to lynch him right now, because he's posting now so we can filter useful information from it.

And keep in mind that it's super risky for me to say this. I can't beat the post quantity of bb/Jamie and both already think I'm scum. This post will just be flooded out and I can't be around during EOD due to timezone constraints. Signing my death warrant here, but someone might actually read my posts and think.

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holy crap Vecna was solvy as fuck. how did anyone have him as scum. I havent even read all this but his nose is sharp. I recall him catching me after id made like 2 posts

I didnt find vecna particularly memorable.

One advantage of rereading is that you find these gems.

To answer Jamie(?), yes, I still think Ezio/bb is scum. It's less important to lynch him right now, because he's posting now so we can filter useful information from it.

And keep in mind that it's super risky for me to say this. I can't beat the post quantity of bb/Jamie and both already think I'm scum. This post will just be flooded out and I can't be around during EOD due to timezone constraints. Signing my death warrant here, but someone might actually read my posts and think.

I will absolutely take ownership of this contradiction.

When I was spectating I didnt read his posts and was barely paying attention. You should note post 73138 occurs well before post 73357. Ill.even just go ahead and take that knock on me.

I hadnt read vecna when I called him.unmemorable. I had mostly ignored him as a spectator which was dumb on my part. Upon reading him adequately and seeing his death it occured to me that he had actually led the town day 1. And thus his death came to pass.

a vecna death comes from players who want a quieter less solvy game. It comes from a smart scumteam that isnt pr hunting, they have no reason to doc hunt. theyd rather kill good players playing well.

Scum isnt desperate to find the doc. And even if they do find the doc theyve got a roleblocker to handle that. So jamie looking at doc crumbs wondering who might he scum faking as doc is a bit idiotic. Because right now all scum really wants is a leaderless town that is full of chiming talking heads that dont work together on anything.

I understand why you find my post scummy. but when you put them out of order it amplifies my scumminess unaturally. And I deserve better than to be painted scummier than I am. Im plenty weird and scummy without that.

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if you want me to be lynched you probably should get that train started soon because ill catch scum eventually and itll be much harder to be rid of me once I hit aces up

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also gollum dies in the end

[Nephthys]

also gollum dies in the end

Glad to see this is still a thing

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you posted 2 quotes 12 hours apart and placed them in improper order to make it look like I said vecna looked super towny before I said vecna left no impression.

makes me look like a deranged lunatic who doesnt even read my own posts before posting them

[Claesar]

I kept notes through the first 6 pages to find out who was protecting who in D1. I have more notes, but this is what I'm releasing now. It's easy to check back and see what I mean. I think this is very useful information in a game without PRs, since only scum have information from the start.

These things happened without a very good base in the actual posts. It suggests the mentioned people might have more information than a VT.

Vapour: Busses Xorxes, townclear Claesar, Omgus Damo,
MF: Bus Rdr, Bus Flavius, Opposes townclear of Vapour and Claesar
Rdr: Omgus MF,
Damo: Bus Vapour,
Worcej: Bus Durga,
Bozo: Opposes townclear of MF and Claesar,

Disclaimer: Yes, I know it says 'townclear Claesar' a lot. I'm not suggesting I'm town because of this. That just happened at the start due to my first few posts.

[Claesar]

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makes me look like a deranged lunatic who doesnt even read my own posts before posting them

That's your opinion. You do post a lot though.

Yes, apparently I had them reversed. I did take special care to find the actual posts so I could include the timestamps, so it's obviously an honest mistake on my part.

[brainbomb]

I kept notes through the first 6 pages to find out who was protecting who in D1. I have more notes, but this is what I'm releasing now. It's easy to check back and see what I mean. I think this is very useful information in a game without PRs, since only scum have information from the start.

These things happened without a very good base in the actual posts. It suggests the mentioned people might have more information than a VT.

Vapour: Busses Xorxes, townclear Claesar, Omgus Damo,
MF: Bus Rdr, Bus Flavius, Opposes townclear of Vapour and Claesar
Rdr: Omgus MF,
Damo: Bus Vapour,
Worcej: Bus Durga,
Bozo: Opposes townclear of MF and Claesar,

Disclaimer: Yes, I know it says 'townclear Claesar' a lot. I'm not suggesting I'm town because of this. That just happened at the start due to my first few posts.

ok. youre town you just have zero grasp of mafia terminology or the English language.

thats ok.

I think I get what youre saying but its very heavy handed. Theres also some logic here that isnt scummy at all. Confusing, but would be wholly detrimental if left to interpretation in the event you were scum.and flipped scum.

this is what looks like worldbuilding on a multi dimensional approach.

it kinda lacks common sense though. why is damo scum and bussing?
why is moscow opting to bus? thats not his style as scum really

and vapor has a tendency to omgus. He was known on mafia universe as tangerine. And was famously mocked by the user known as yeti:

Quote Originally Posted by Yeti on February 17, 2018, 3:47:07 PM (#4019)

tangerine is the mafia embodiment of the weird hillbilly hermit who has TRESPASSERS WILL BE SHOT ON SIGHT / NO CAMERAS / THE GOVERNMENT NOT WELCOME HERE signs on his remote property and swings a double barrel shotgun in the face of anyone he thinks looks at him the wrong way

i don't mean this disparagingly i mean it as tangerine sees someone not TR him and goes ARE YOU THE MAFIA ARE YOU WORKING AGAINST ME and when the read changes tangerine is like OK UR NOT THE GOVERMENT TRYING TO TAKE MY LAND
Quote Originally Posted by Yeti on February 20, 2018, 5:38:06 PM (#7486)
tangerine is waving the sawed off shotgun at dels and me asking what agency we're with and sovereign citizens don't pay no taxes

this sums up how vapor plays exclusively as villager.
hawkish
paranoid
omgus proned
and he treats pressure on him exactly how yeti described

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not to say that theres anything wrong with paranoia. Tangerine Vaporwave and I are basically like kindred spirits of the game of mafia. My understanding of him however has finally eclipsed his understanding of me.

These things happen. Im sure he will catch up to seeing my meta in its light. he hasnt seen me as town in ages so thats hopefully whats confusing him

[brainbomb]

not to say that theres anything wrong with paranoia. Tangerine Vaporwave and I are basically like kindred spirits of the game of mafia. My understanding of him however has finally eclipsed his understanding of me.

These things happen. Im sure he will catch up to seeing my meta in its light. he hasnt seen me as town in ages so thats hopefully whats confusing him

[Claesar]

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it kinda lacks common sense though. why is damo scum and bussing?
why is moscow opting to bus? thats not his style as scum really

and vapor has a tendency to omgus.
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I'm not saying they're all scum in my opinion. That's not even possible. These are just uncensored and unredacted 'facts' from D1. Conclude from it what you will.

I was actually looking for my notes on protection of people before they've even posted (!), but those happen after page 6. You'll have to look for those yourself.

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makes me look like a deranged lunatic who doesnt even read my own posts before posting them

That's your opinion. You do post a lot though.

Yes, apparently I had them reversed. I did take special care to find the actual posts so I could include the timestamps, so it's obviously an honest mistake on my part.

I post because I have alot of energy and when I sign up for a game I like to win the game. You can pick on individual posts of mine and lynch me pretty easily as soon as I screw up and mislynch a townie.

But if I actually get some scum, and actually pick em off, which generally I will eventually, my huge breadth of posts is all just love of the game itself.