MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[yavuzovic]

What exactly am I tricking though? It's Neph who's tricking with a well-designed nk. Do you think I would nightkill a person on my wagon, especially Vecna? Idc your and Neph's reads anymore. You're stuck in a tunnel and scumreading me for my "connections"

This is big right here. This post was literally aimed at worcej. This was indicated as the post two up was my case against him.

Yet here have yav focusing thats its about him? Why? Because as scum you are hyper aware of who is reading you and how they are reading you. As town not so much.

This is a very bad post

Say so? I was the second wagon which means I'd be lynched if there wasn't bo. How do you expect me to not be "hyper aware of being read"? Now, do you want to illuminate my "connections" still, or can I start making cases about others?

[yavuzovic]

Neph you're so scummy, I don't know why but you really really are. Even damo is far better than you here.
##vote Nephthys

[yavuzovic]

Can I take a list of your scumreads? Feels like you scumread everybody on the list.

[Nephthys]

Can I take a list of your scumreads? Feels like you scumread everybody on the list.

You,Worcej, Jamie, Durga are the ones that come to mind

[Jamiet99uk]

21 / orig Hello there.
Jamiet99uk
Night-1 08:12
page 21 / orig I have read up to page 10, and to that point, I see one or perhaps two people softing or crumbing Doc. I also see one person, who should know better, apparently PR fishing, *cough* Bozotheclown. I see Moscow perhaps townslipping, or perhaps faking a townslip. Xorxes looks town.

I think lynching lurkers in this set up is a good idea. So far my slot has been king lurker, but that's gonna change.

I don't like Durga claiming that she is going to be drunk all week. This smells fake. She's currently TD for a major ongoing tournament, and has been replying promptly to messages and PMs about the tourney. I think she's relying on the fact that she's a frequent lurker, and anchoring. #2 scumread currently.

Alternate scumteam is Flav and Darg.

Interesting nobody responded to Ezio's item claim.

I am enjoying the amount of flavour. Only a minority of GMs (in which I include myself) take the time to put real work into the flavour, and I'm glad to see it here.

So you joined a game
rolled town?
and the first thing you hunted for was doc crumbs?

thats...

well, this has been my Ted talk folks

Jamie is likely scum here.

The initial blow up as well seemed fake to put it mildly.

This is false. Both you and Brainbomb are mistaken. At no point was I hunting for doc crumbs. Rather, I noticed Bozo commenting on Doc crumbs, and my point was that he shouldn't draw attention to them.

I hope that's clear?

[Jamiet99uk]

Netphyths looks very fake here. Commenting on bits and pieces without seeing wider context. Not looking townie at all.

[Jamiet99uk]

I now prefer Claesar over Netphys over Dargorygel over Worcej over Rdrivera over Damo.

Claesar? Where are you?

[yavuzovic]

Neph is forcing himself to scumread people

[Jamiet99uk]

Neph is forcing himself to scumread people

Yes, I also believe this to be the case.

Perhaps one of his four is scum, however, just for cover.

[yavuzovic]

Neph is forcing himself to scumread people

Yes, I also believe this to be the case.

Perhaps one of his four is scum, however, just for cover.

Agree but not worcej, he wouldn't be risking this much. Is it possible him to be counting on the 30 hours until next phase to change the lynch wagon? I haven't specifically read him but it's not likely worcej to be scum if nephthy is so.
Hm,
I recommend neph to Lynch. Let's illuminate his "connections"

[yavuzovic]

Did you receive a PM regarding that?

this is a guy that wants to solve

a scum would ask GM in chat if the hooker's action will notify the player

Let's discuss his usage of "chat" here?
Maybe that was a question you asked in "chat"? Rather than an actual evidence, that's scummy.

I wanna bring this back again. I lost a great game to BB who was buddying me and I never suspected him, and that's not going to repeat. Are trying to stay away from my radar Vapor, actually there were more dangerous radars while mine was rather defensive.

[brainbomb]

who is townreading xorxes for his efforts today. show if hands

[brainbomb]

Jamie do you like my coconut bra?

[xorxes]

Welcome Jamiet and bb, it looks like the game has picked up now. Time to catch up.

[xorxes]

Hmm, so much information gained there

I think there was some information gained actually. If bo had flipped scum, then the people trying to start a counterwagon would have been suspect. Since he flipped town, they actually get some townie points because scum would probably have been happy leaving things as they were. So Neph and damo get townie points, Durga maybe as well. rdrivera was under some pressure by Vecna so I think him being active EOD is less AI.

[xorxes]

I would like to point out I correctly predicted Ezio would be useless. You all mocked me, but..
If I die tonight, my final wish is that you all lynch Ezio.

@Vecna, I know you were hoping for a more analytical Claesar. I'm saving that for later, when the game becomes a bit more manageable. I'm keeping notes though.

Hopefully you have posted some of those notes by now, so I'm looking forward to reading them.

[xorxes]

I could lynch Yav. Never understand what he's trying to say.

welp no-one seems interested in Durga,

##vote yav

And as soon as someone shows intrest you just jump on me. And damo you don't even have an actual reason. Did scum choose me to lynch at this point?

Why would scum want to lynch you and call attention to themselves when bo was on his way to being lynched?

[xorxes]

While I agree your opinions about not lynching a lurker, you're pushing me and my wagon was a scum motivated wagon. Yes, a lynch that explains is better BUT you can't lynch someone just because of their connections. That's not a town logic why do you lynch me other than gaining a clue about flavius?

Well you didn't convince me you were town and I think I made it clear through my voting that you weren't my first choice. As a third choice I was quite happy to lynch you.

Also it seemed none of my other wagons were gaining steam and you will note that I said lynching bo was literally the worst thing we could have done

Not exactly correct. Both me and Vecna show interest on lynching Moscow. Why you didn't push his wagon if it's your first choice?

I was considering Moscow as well, but in the end he had at least done something and bo had done nothing.

[xorxes]

I would like to point out I correctly predicted Ezio would be useless. You all mocked me, but..
If I die tonight, my final wish is that you all lynch Ezio.

Do these form any semblance of reads or anything at all you want to share?

Yes, it does. I already posted part of my reasoning yesterday. Will post more in a couple of hours. I like to space it to increase the chances of it actually being read by someone.

Presumably Ezio will be subbed

If there are subs. He shouldn't be allowed to play, but I'm not in charge. If he's subbed out, I will start contributing with reads on other people. For now there's no reason to when there's an obvious scum to kill.

That doesn't make a lot of sense. If he was scum, his being replaced or not doesn't change anything.

[yavuzovic]

welp no-one seems interested in Durga,

##vote yav

And as soon as someone shows intrest you just jump on me. And damo you don't even have an actual reason. Did scum choose me to lynch at this point?

Why would scum want to lynch you and call attention to themselves when bo was on his way to being lynched?

Why would they stay on bo? They knew he was town didn't they?