MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[Jamiet99uk]

I am barely a demigod.

[dargorygel]

[snip...]
Worcej, though gets my morning joe vote. While part of me hates voting for someone on the basis of non-participation, worcej, where he IS posting only: argues with Vecna a LITTLE bit... mostly OMGUS...and then overnight makes some pro-GM posts. Worcej is better than this.

##VOTE worcej

Again, where do you get this feeling that I am better than what I put into this weekend?

At some level I am comparing your over games to your disengaged self here. So put on your solving hat now

[rdrivera2005]

I agree with Brain that Jamiet isn't giving a great impression. The Vapor post was so obviously a joke that I have a hard time believing town Jamiet could ask for a counter claim.

I also fail to see why people are giving Damo a free pass and including Bozo in a town core make no sense. He started towny but then he just faded away.

[rdrivera2005]

[snip...]
Worcej, though gets my morning joe vote. While part of me hates voting for someone on the basis of non-participation, worcej, where he IS posting only: argues with Vecna a LITTLE bit... mostly OMGUS...and then overnight makes some pro-GM posts. Worcej is better than this.

##VOTE worcej

Again, where do you get this feeling that I am better than what I put into this weekend?

Worcej seems a lot me when I am scum and got in defensive mode...

But I second the scum vibes from Dargo after that post, it doesn't seem natural and he prepared to jump in almost any ship that depart.

In fact, ##vote Dargo, him and Worcej being wagons could be interesting.

Claesar tunnel into Ezio isn't scummy per se, but his lack of engagement after Brain took over may be, not a bad wagon too.

[Jamiet99uk]

Maybe people shouldn't make shitposting joke claims after they've breadcrumbed and it's D2, not page 1.

Just saying.

[rdrivera2005]

And I think I am entering in paranoia mode as I don't have many solid townreads.

[rdrivera2005]

Maybe people shouldn't make shitposting joke claims after they've breadcrumbed and it's D2, not page 1.

Just saying.

Vapor already discussed this doc thing with Bozo and it's pretty clear he isn't doc (at least to me) and that it was a joke. But I give you some pause as you weren't playing on D1. Anyway, I will be really, really surprised if Vapor isn't a VT.

[Vaporwave]

Vapor already discussed this doc thing with Bozo and it's pretty clear he isn't doc (at least to me) and that it was a joke. But I give you some pause as you weren't playing on D1. Anyway, I will be really, really surprised if Vapor isn't a VT.

[damo666]

Yes, I'm reading the thread, thanks for asking (really? why the angst already, Jamiet?)
I was referring to your initial interest in a CC.
AND I was making sure the doc was reminded to not do claimy stuff.

Jamie the retraction is irrelevant. Before the retraction you suggested outing a the doc for a scumkill. A fair trade at this stage? This is what darg asked you and you haven't replied. Please do so. It doesn't seem a strong town tactic to me.

The retraction is absolutely and totally relevant. He was asking me if I "still" wanted the real Doc to claim, after the Doc claimant had retracted. Of course the Doc should not claim in those circumstances.

Jesus.

You are not ansering the question. Why did you advocate a doc/scum trade at the time you did. Nobody is claiming you were advocating a doc cc post retraction.

[yavuzovic]

I can't stop scumreading damo after he created a wagon on me out of nothing (I don't count his reasoning about my 'connections') and this wagon became the second biggest wagon. I believe - or want to believe that there was at least one scum on me. As we learned Vecna is town, I suspect both damo and Neph. My guts suggest me to move with Damo.
##vote Damo

[damo666]

Ignore last post. J has answered. Don't agree with him but he's answered.

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie the retraction is irrelevant. Before the retraction you suggested outing a the doc for a scumkill. A fair trade at this stage? This is what darg asked you and you haven't replied. Please do so. It doesn't seem a strong town tactic to me.

The retraction is absolutely and totally relevant. He was asking me if I "still" wanted the real Doc to claim, after the Doc claimant had retracted. Of course the Doc should not claim in those circumstances.

Jesus.

You are not ansering the question. Why did you advocate a doc/scum trade at the time you did. Nobody is claiming you were advocating a doc cc post retraction.

I have subsequently answered it. Please go and read my reply to Darg.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ok Damo we crossposted no probs

[damo666]

I can't stop scumreading damo after he created a wagon on me out of nothing (I don't count his reasoning about my 'connections') and this wagon became the second biggest wagon. I believe - or want to believe that there was at least one scum on me. As we learned Vecna is town, I suspect both damo and Neph. My guts suggest me to move with Damo.
##vote Damo

I didn't create the wagon.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE CLAESAR

[damo666]

I can't stop scumreading damo after he created a wagon on me out of nothing (I don't count his reasoning about my 'connections') and this wagon became the second biggest wagon. I believe - or want to believe that there was at least one scum on me. As we learned Vecna is town, I suspect both damo and Neph. My guts suggest me to move with Damo.
##vote Damo

I didn't create the wagon.

Nor did I mention connections. That was Neph who was also the wagon creator.

My reason was that I never understand what you're saying. However that is not quite true. I mostly don't understand what you're saying and when I do you are usually wrong (just like this instance).

My vote remains.

[Jamiet99uk]

Apart from wasting the GMs time with GM calls about Game of Thrones, Claesar's only activity from Page 11 onwards has been to tunnel on Ezio and then disappear before EoN.

It's one think to campaign against lurkers if you're actively contributing. It's quite another thing to tunnel on an absent player when you clearly have the time and energy to scumhunt, but all you do is tunnel the absentee. I'm guessing Claesar is newbie scum latching on to the lurker angle to make it look like he's been contributing.

[damo666]

Something that is paramount in this setup is that we do coalesce onto some ideas and we iron out certainties of who is town in at least a few consensus folk. one way to do that is by championing a lynch and we actually let it go through.

I like the idea of chinese fire drills but in a setup where half the games asleep in europe its alot harder to expect an intelligent cfd to go down.

therefore its best that we all have a vote down by midday and a wagon in place up to 5 hours ahead of any phase ending.

scum cant control how to coordinate and save if we make it impossible.

thus we just gotta decide who consensus lynches are and get them to look towny or we just pile up and let em die

who's your prime suggestion?

[Jamiet99uk]

What is a "chinese fire drill"?

[Jamiet99uk]

Huh. According to the internet it seems to be some kind of college prank involving getting out of a car while it's stopped at a red light.

In other words, I don't know what Brainbomb is talking about.