MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[brainbomb]

so many people arent talking to me and thats how we learn things.

I much prefer reading your posts when I am drinking my morning coffee, imagining someone scribbling down nonsense in a notebook.

that doesnt sound like you wanna give me a hug and promise me everything will be okay.

grog grog no like

[worcej]

Towncore coming through..

bozo/damo/dargo/durga/bomb/Neph

My gut tells me two scum are in this list. This game strikes me as scum leading a dumb town group more than a strong town group.

[worcej]

I'm worried about worcej though, I know we aren't suppose to read kills(someone said that), but what is more important is that...worcej isn't even defending himself...
That's >bad<

What is there to defend? Everyone is going after me for D1 actions and ~!~vibes~!~

[brainbomb]

Towncore coming through..

bozo/damo/dargo/durga/bomb/Neph

My gut tells me two scum are in this list. This game strikes me as scum leading a dumb town group more than a strong town group.

Okay durga, bozo are like definetely not leading anything. and dargo is utterly incapable of playing the way hes currently playing as scum.


damo I guess maybe is capable of this high volume evolution into being power wolf, but hes not even scummy.

and neph, I feel like hes not leading hes felt kinda whimpy in his posts.

so this assessment is a bit off

[worcej]

@worcej who looked fake like they were trying too hard to solve?

As I have said, I put those eggs in Vecna's basket. I was wrong, won't be the first time that happens.

Honestly right now, my scum reads are on people starting a push on me (Neph and Darg) because I am a really easy mislynch today. You can paint some easy image that I orchestrated a scum team to get Vecna on the NK because he is so good and will get us all in time. And he is actually trying, unlike other town-cores in our meta (xor).

[worcej]

Towncore coming through..

bozo/damo/dargo/durga/bomb/Neph

My gut tells me two scum are in this list. This game strikes me as scum leading a dumb town group more than a strong town group.

Okay durga, bozo are like definetely not leading anything. and dargo is utterly incapable of playing the way hes currently playing as scum.


damo I guess maybe is capable of this high volume evolution into being power wolf, but hes not even scummy.

and neph, I feel like hes not leading hes felt kinda whimpy in his posts.

so this assessment is a bit off

Agree to disagree then, but I believe dargo/neph are the scum in this group. Durga and bozo are NAI for the simple lack of much content compared to their normal town game (imo)

[brainbomb]

hmm. can you show me specific posts where dargorygel looks scummy?

[brainbomb]

Something that is paramount in this setup is that we do coalesce onto some ideas and we iron out certainties of who is town in at least a few consensus folk. one way to do that is by championing a lynch and we actually let it go through.

I like the idea of chinese fire drills but in a setup where half the games asleep in europe its alot harder to expect an intelligent cfd to go down.

therefore its best that we all have a vote down by midday and a wagon in place up to 5 hours ahead of any phase ending.

scum cant control how to coordinate and save if we make it impossible.

thus we just gotta decide who consensus lynches are and get them to look towny or we just pile up and let em die

[Percy Williams]

#GM Note
For a number of reasons, the Day 2 deadline has been moved 1h later.
I will make day 3 phase only 47 hours to realign the end phase time.
If this is utterly abhorrent to you, complain, and if enough people complain, I will find another solution.
Here is a recording of the cave, in return for your wasted time:
"Oog wee ahr stoo peed"
"Vek nah not skum? "
"Noh"
"Now wut do?"

[brainbomb]

does anyone have a few moments to talk about Jesus Christ?

aka Vecna. who died a hero.

[Jamiet99uk]

vuzovic is town or I'll buy all of you pizza...the horrible and cheap kind like Domino's since I can't afford more

This is against the rules. Also where do you live where Domino's is cheap? You need a second mortgage to buy pizza from Domino's in the UK.

[Jamiet99uk]

Are you actually reading the thread, at all?

Vaporwave has retracted his claim.

Yes, I'm reading the thread, thanks for asking (really? why the angst already, Jamiet?)
I was referring to your initial interest in a CC.
AND I was making sure the doc was reminded to not do claimy stuff.

Jamie the retraction is irrelevant. Before the retraction you suggested outing a the doc for a scumkill. A fair trade at this stage? This is what darg asked you and you haven't replied. Please do so. It doesn't seem a strong town tactic to me.

The retraction is absolutely and totally relevant. He was asking me if I "still" wanted the real Doc to claim, after the Doc claimant had retracted. Of course the Doc should not claim in those circumstances.

Jesus.

[worcej]

hmm. can you show me specific posts where dargorygel looks scummy?

It probably won't look that scummy to you, but it was this post on D1:

Chaos day... not sure if I will be on consistently today, or at EoD.
My pressure vote on Electricified Mouse obviously did no good. Sort of expecting a newbie ModKill now.

My initial shade-view of Vapor is probably just my usual distrust of Vape. Not sure what to think of his ignoring of my bit of pressure on him early, but I think I would ignore me, too...

As usual... and If we were honest, it is all we usually have on D1.. going with gut feeling, and a wee bit o' meta analysis...

I expect more betterer from worcej, even this early. (I could also vote for ezio, bo, or durga on this basis...)

##VOTE WORCEJ

The bolded part struck me as a fabricated statement - I never put much effort in D1. In fact, numerous games I usually blow off D1 and start trying more later, so why does he expect more from me? When have I ever delivered a good D1?

[dargorygel]

Yes, I'm reading the thread, thanks for asking (really? why the angst already, Jamiet?)
I was referring to your initial interest in a CC.
AND I was making sure the doc was reminded to not do claimy stuff.

Jamie the retraction is irrelevant. Before the retraction you suggested outing a the doc for a scumkill. A fair trade at this stage? This is what darg asked you and you haven't replied. Please do so. It doesn't seem a strong town tactic to me.

The retraction is absolutely and totally relevant. He was asking me if I "still" wanted the real Doc to claim, after the Doc claimant had retracted. Of course the Doc should not claim in those circumstances.

Jesus.

Ok.. let's pretend that your knowledge of what I meant is better than mine. I'll still re-ask... Way back before the recant... Do you really think that a trade of the doc for a scum that early in the game is good for town? And why... Thanks,

[Vaporwave]

Can Jamiet and bomb please analyse each other?

[FlaviusAetius]

Can Jamiet and bomb please analyse each other?

yes! those two are gods at this game, would be interesting to watch

[Vaporwave]

vuzovic is town or I'll buy all of you pizza...the horrible and cheap kind like Domino's since I can't afford more

This is against the rules. Also where do you live where Domino's is cheap? You need a second mortgage to buy pizza from Domino's in the UK.

Ok, sorry. I was seeing bomb promising Papa Johns' type in a previous game which is high quality and tasty, I can't afford to buy that so Domino's will have to do for you guys

But I wasn't aware about bets being illegal, I honestly think nobody takes them seriously.

[Vaporwave]

yes! those two are gods at this game, would be interesting to watch

Have you looked at previous games on this site?

[worcej]

[snip...]
Worcej, though gets my morning joe vote. While part of me hates voting for someone on the basis of non-participation, worcej, where he IS posting only: argues with Vecna a LITTLE bit... mostly OMGUS...and then overnight makes some pro-GM posts. Worcej is better than this.

##VOTE worcej

Again, where do you get this feeling that I am better than what I put into this weekend?

[Jamiet99uk]

Jamie the retraction is irrelevant. Before the retraction you suggested outing a the doc for a scumkill. A fair trade at this stage? This is what darg asked you and you haven't replied. Please do so. It doesn't seem a strong town tactic to me.

The retraction is absolutely and totally relevant. He was asking me if I "still" wanted the real Doc to claim, after the Doc claimant had retracted. Of course the Doc should not claim in those circumstances.

Jesus.

Ok.. let's pretend that your knowledge of what I meant is better than mine. I'll still re-ask... Way back before the recant... Do you really think that a trade of the doc for a scum that early in the game is good for town? And why... Thanks,

If no claim has been made, no.

If an apparently serious claim has been made, then maybe yes. The Doc is the only PR, there are no other PRs to protect, and there are only 3 scum. Nailing one third of the scumteam on D2, when the Doc probably didn't self protect N1, might be reasonable value, actually.

However, the claim has been retracted, so the Doc should keep in hiding.