MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[Vaporwave]

##VOTE Claesar

[brainbomb]

so... can we get back to the likeliest answer

that a scum was on the bo wagon?
(xorxes)

or that vecna died because yav is scum?

can we maybe just simplify this? and combine rereads with facts. just once? yall do this when im scum why cant you do it now.

ez peazy

Quite possibly both. Hope so. I could see X getting frustrated with Y as scumpal.

thats... not even what I said. what are you saying??

[brainbomb]

I think Claesar is really hard to accurately read. more time is my request

[Vaporwave]

I think Claesar is really hard to accurately read. more time is my request

worcej then? I think I'm a bit unsure of xorxes or maybe it's a weakness or something

[brainbomb]

His end hammer on Ezio day1, followed by complete and utterly refusing to even acknowledge my very existence is weird.

Claesar
Night-1 05:14
page 23 / orig So here's my explanation why Ezio is definitely scum:

D1 I openly challenge Ezio and suggest to lynch him because he won't even bother to vote. Ezio subsequently makes a single post, but still doesn't vote!! Would town Ezio do that? No! Would scum Ezio do that? Yes!

When Ezio flips scum, I'd lynch Rdrivera next. He passionately defended Ezio for no good reason. His only argument was "Ezio always plays like this". But how is that indicative of town? If he always plays like this, then he also plays like this when scum!

If you take a lurker to the endgame, what do you know about them? Nothing. How will you learn anything? Beg them to post? Visit their home?

Lynch Ezio now and you have a very good read on Rdrivera for free.

If I die tonight, lynch Ezio. The third scum will say "oh, but scum would never NK Claesar if Ezio was really scum because it would be too obvious". Don't buy that crap.

pretty bold assertions to just drop.

[Vaporwave]

would like to make the most of my posting, I won't have electricity in a day or two, so it will be impossible to post

waiting for the new guy to take over

[brainbomb]

I think Claesar is really hard to accurately read. more time is my request

worcej then? I think I'm a bit unsure of xorxes or maybe it's a weakness or something

I mean xorxes is a spectacular town player who takes scum down with minimal effort. Here hes basically mastering the minimal effort aspect of it. without the scum takedown element.

[dargorygel]

More to read overnight than we've had so far! No longer will I be contending for top poster...

Brain has redeemed Ezio. Seems to me that Ezio's MAIN crime was silence. Brain is not silent. I actually approve of the 'not-so-emotionally-invested' brain. He sticks to his ideas rather than flit ALL over.

The doc should not reveal, obv. I see some shade on those who pushed for a doc reveal. I don't understand announcing possible crumbs OR pushing on them.

Flavius, while improving his deportment after his silly sheep on me (although I kinda liked it... no one has ever sheeped me, even after my famous desperado shot... which no one has mentioned in QUITE some time...) seems floundering. BB coaching in the middle of the game seemed ok, because IF he was coaching, they would have the QT... although didn't brain replace in AFTER the QT was closed? Even though brain is feeling like town, I didn't ultimately like this. But am kinda wishy washy about it.

Xorxes... perhaps I am just remembering a recent game where the scum-room was made up of our usual 'solvers' and we coulda/shoulda found them by their LACK of solving... but I see xorxes as wearing a scum hat here. I could vote for xorxes.

Worcej, though gets my morning joe vote. While part of me hates voting for someone on the basis of non-participation, worcej, where he IS posting only: argues with Vecna a LITTLE bit... mostly OMGUS...and then overnight makes some pro-GM posts. Worcej is better than this.

##VOTE worcej

[dargorygel]

@brain... didja read rdrivera?

[dargorygel]

... trying to make sense of his accusation that he was being set-up for todays lynch... edumacate me.

[dargorygel]

oops.... he wrote he DOESN'T think they were setting him up... nvm.

[Vaporwave]

... trying to make sense of his accusation that he was being set-up for todays lynch... edumacate me.

would scum rivera kill Vecna and then townreads a player who votes him for thinking he killed Vecna?

rivera's activity D1 seemed serious, gave quite a bit of interest

[bozotheclown]

I think damo is town
moscow town
jamie town
rivera town
dargorygel town

durga slight town
vapor slight town

flav null

bozo scum
worcej scum
claesar scum
xorxes scum

What happened to your scum read of yavuzovic, who you are still voting for?

[bozotheclown]

would like to make the most of my posting, I won't have electricity in a day or two, so it will be impossible to post

waiting for the new guy to take over

Are you saying you have already requested a sub?

[Vaporwave]

would like to make the most of my posting, I won't have electricity in a day or two, so it will be impossible to post

waiting for the new guy to take over

Are you saying you have already requested a sub?

yes I have and I'm waiting

[dargorygel]

So... if we are considering why Vecna was killed (probs fear kill...) he had some shade cast on yavu, rdrivera, and claesar.

[Vaporwave]

Towncore coming through..

bozo/damo/dargo/durga/bomb/Neph

[damo666]

Towncore coming through..

bozo/damo/dargo/durga/bomb/Neph

yes/yes/maybe/maybe/yes/probably

[damo666]

oops.... he wrote he DOESN'T think they were setting him up... nvm.

rdr was referring to my suggestion that the NK of Vecna would set up a mislynch of rdrivera

[yavuzovic]

Also any somewhat decent person will know that while kills shouldnt always be super read into, because of the possible WIFOM, scum just kill who they want to, usually the threats.

In this case I think that Vecna was a general fearkill and a was also onto at elast one scum

You killed him to accuse me didn't you?

Scum yav attempting a trick here. ##vote yav

What exactly am I tricking though? It's Neph who's tricking with a well-designed nk. Do you think I would nightkill a person on my wagon, especially Vecna? Idc your and Neph's reads anymore. You're stuck in a tunnel and scumreading me for my "connections"