MAFIA 45 GAME THREAD - BETWEEN A ROCK AND A...ROCK

[Jamiet99uk]

Y'all are gonna be sick of me very soon, I promise that

Are you currently drunk or sober?

[Jamiet99uk]

@jamie, why flav and darg?

Just a hunch.

1. Flav sheeped Darg a whole lot,
2. Darg appeared keen to coach Flav and help him,
3. Darg also questioned Moscowfleet's early scumread on Flav.

But it's a bit weak. Hmm. I dunno. Like I say, just a weak hunch.

[Claesar]

So here's my explanation why Ezio is definitely scum:

D1 I openly challenge Ezio and suggest to lynch him because he won't even bother to vote. Ezio subsequently makes a single post, but still doesn't vote!! Would town Ezio do that? No! Would scum Ezio do that? Yes!

When Ezio flips scum, I'd lynch Rdrivera next. He passionately defended Ezio for no good reason. His only argument was "Ezio always plays like this". But how is that indicative of town? If he always plays like this, then he also plays like this when scum!

If you take a lurker to the endgame, what do you know about them? Nothing. How will you learn anything? Beg them to post? Visit their home?

Lynch Ezio now and you have a very good read on Rdrivera for free.

If I die tonight, lynch Ezio. The third scum will say "oh, but scum would never NK Claesar if Ezio was really scum because it would be too obvious". Don't buy that crap.

[damo666]

##GM Note

Sorry everyone, for missing and not adjudicating EOD yesterday

(much thanks for doing it, Percy)

Had a nasty argument with the parents, and I'm technically homeless currently -

Won't be able to do much for the next few days until I sort things out IRL, so Percy might have to fly solo-ish for phase adjudications until then.

Humble Pie usually works

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM

Is Ezio being replaced?

[yavuzovic]

@Neph you're my top scumread. That may look like retalliating but you were really willing to kill me and as I know I'm town I only think you tried to eliminate me.

So the best you've got after nearly 72 hours is that I voted you therefore must be scum?

I'm assuming damo and vecna are also your other two scumreads?

Do you have any other insights?

Provoking post. Didn't you create a wagon on me? Weren't you so willing to kill me, without a reasoning? Your only argument was my connections, what connection did I have other than Flavius? There was obviously many better wagons but you focused on me and suggested lynching me.
About damo and Vecna, I think Vecna's vote must be NAI, it was late and he knew I wouldn't br lynched most probably. I suspect damo, as he jumped on that wagon as soon as he saw.

[Jamiet99uk]

Actually, let's talk about Vecna trying to get a last minute wagon on Yav.

What was that all about?

[Percy Williams]

##Gm note
Yes, we (using the royal we) are contacting the sub list and working to replace ezio. Also I've built myself a beautiful sticky note, so adjudicating will go much more smoothly. Since I am now head GM, my actions will be a lot more formal and I'll do better, because that is how my brain works. Don't worry though, the flavour won't stop coming . Thank you all for your patience and help, and focus on catching that Mafia/evading capture!

[rdrivera2005]

So here's my explanation why Ezio is definitely scum:

D1 I openly challenge Ezio and suggest to lynch him because he won't even bother to vote. Ezio subsequently makes a single post, but still doesn't vote!! Would town Ezio do that? No! Would scum Ezio do that? Yes!

When Ezio flips scum, I'd lynch Rdrivera next. He passionately defended Ezio for no good reason. His only argument was "Ezio always plays like this". But how is that indicative of town? If he always plays like this, then he also plays like this when scum!

If you take a lurker to the endgame, what do you know about them? Nothing. How will you learn anything? Beg them to post? Visit their home?

Lynch Ezio now and you have a very good read on Rdrivera for free.

If I die tonight, lynch Ezio. The third scum will say "oh, but scum would never NK Claesar if Ezio was really scum because it would be too obvious". Don't buy that crap.

Claesar, could you get out of this tunnel and show in which post I "passionately defended Ezio". The only thing I remember saying to you is for you to get over last game and start playing other then this useless Ezio rant. I was hoping he get subbed, but if he isn't and don't improve he is a good lunch, but focusing only on him doesn't improve things for town.

[rdrivera2005]

Actually, let's talk about Vecna trying to get a last minute wagon on Yav.

What was that all about?

Jamiet, you are you reading Vecna? I am too omgusing on scum read him?

[Jamiet99uk]

Actually, let's talk about Vecna trying to get a last minute wagon on Yav.

What was that all about?

Jamiet, you are you reading Vecna? I am too omgusing on scum read him?

Could you attempt that sentence again, only this time, making sense?

[Jamiet99uk]

I think Rdrivera is asking if I scumread Vecna.

If so, yes I do.

[Jamiet99uk]

Where is everyone? This game is so quiet.

[Percy Williams]

#GM Note
Jamiet says it is too quiet. Here you go:
brainbomb has replaced Ezio

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh. I should be careful what I wish for.

Welcome, Beancomb.

[rdrivera2005]

I think Rdrivera is asking if I scumread Vecna.

If so, yes I do.

Yes, more or less it's what I want to ask but wrote a completely nonsense question. I want to ask if my scumread of him is only OMGUS or if it might have some merit.

[brainbomb]

Incidents of note:

FlaviusAetius
Day-1 01:02
page 14

So what's happening it seems we are all just accusing each of other of stuff without knowing anything...
I say we just pick someone who isn't even talking and call it a day

Why would this be a good idea exactly?

Lets take a look at how this progression comes to play.

FlaviusAetius
Thanks for the tips! I'll keep on reading... I voted electronic because darg picked him, but now I'm not so sure…

I assume this means you think darg is town? and that darg is the town player whose judgement you support and agree with. Am I correct?

FlaviusAetius
oh, and also whoever said I made a mistake on the vote, I'll fix it;
##VOTE electronic
I'll probably enemy up switching though

A few thoughts.
-You didnt switch..At all. Is it fair to note that this post directly matches xorxes thoughts at the time about the bo wagon? You both use similar justifications.

-Who would you have switched too exactly?

Here are the xorxes posts I refer too that also seem off:

xorxes
##VOTE bo_sox, only because nobody has mentioned him yet. Hopefully there will be something better by EOD.

How do you feel about this justification flavius?

xorxes
Seven one-vote wagons this late in the day?

xorxes
What's the case against rivera again?

xorxes
If he is scum he will switch at the last minute if a competing viable counterwagon forms.

We should really have at least one other wagon though.

I have questions for xorxes too because this seems really empty. Do you have any thoughts on this Flavius?

FlaviusAetius
↑yavuzovic: "Did you... distort my words?
How dare you!
##vote Flavius Aetius"

noooo!! im sorry, this is caveman times, these futuristic devices confuse me!!

I cant tell if this is playfully distressed, or frantic, or just having a larf at being voted. Flavius was this yav vote on you a stressful moment?

FlaviusAetius
Seems no one likes people who don't post, and I don't either, they don't participate...
So I think I'm going to keep my vote on Electronic Mouse for not even posting one thing…

But I thought the reason you voted Electric was because Dargorygel said it was a good idea.

worcej (1) dargorygel

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/mob ... nqlyaa.jpg



My suspects are flavius and xorxes are both scum.

[brainbomb]

add worcej to the scum pool too.

[brainbomb]

Oh. I apologize I just noticed I am not supposed to post til EON. my bad. pretend I posted all that tomorrow

[damo666]

@Neph you're my top scumread. That may look like retalliating but you were really willing to kill me and as I know I'm town I only think you tried to eliminate me.

So the best you've got after nearly 72 hours is that I voted you therefore must be scum?

I'm assuming damo and vecna are also your other two scumreads?

Do you have any other insights?

Provoking post. Didn't you create a wagon on me? Weren't you so willing to kill me, without a reasoning? Your only argument was my connections, what connection did I have other than Flavius? There was obviously many better wagons but you focused on me and suggested lynching me.
About damo and Vecna, I think Vecna's vote must be NAI, it was late and he knew I wouldn't br lynched most probably. I suspect damo, as he jumped on that wagon as soon as he saw.

This is a ridiculous observation. There were 2 minutes or less to EOD so by definition anybody jumping on such a late wagon is doing so 'as soon as he saw'.

I took bo's self vote as being town indicative (correctly) and basically was willing to support any competing wagon I thought had half a chance.