MINI MAFIA V GAME THREAD -- The House of Black and White

[e.m.c^42]

I did the calculation. Unless I made an error, it's mathematically better not to lynch. That said, I don't think we can enforce it. So we should make sure we kill a suspect rather than let the mob control the lynch EOD.

there's something wrong with this, but I can't tell what :D

If you don't trust my calculation, check it. Do the math. You'll see I'm right.

Other than that, I'm saying it's hard to actually enforce NL. Someone could mess it up at the last moment. Unless I misunderstand how NL works.

Oh, not the actual math itself. I'm trying to think of what's pinging me - something about how you presented the case, and why

although it might be just me lacking sleep

[e.m.c^42]

If there voting is like this:

No lynch: 8 votes
Claesar: 3 votes

I still die, right?

We have to tie the votes to prevent a lynch, and I think it's bad idea to try for that even though it gives us the best winrate with random voting.

I think it's whatever's majority - so with your example no-one would die.

[Claesar]

If there voting is like this:

No lynch: 8 votes
Claesar: 3 votes

I still die, right?

We have to tie the votes to prevent a lynch, and I think it's bad idea to try for that even though it gives us the best winrate with random voting.

I think it's whatever's majority - so with your example no-one would die.

Interesting, in that case we could enforce it if we can get Jamie on board. Since I don't think anyone else will be here during EOD, but I may be wrong.

However, you're not convinced either. And you shouldn't be. I just said it's true, but you haven't done the math yourself.

[Claesar]

So I guess I sort-of retract my scumread on the NL camp. Nonetheless, how do we arrange NL? Especially with half the players in bed. I think we'd just give the power to Mafia and grant them a 'free NK', so to say. I still think it's bad to not lynch anyone.

Who was in this camp, Claesar?

Can you remember their names?

If I had to guess now, I'll say Ezio and Ryast. I'll reread in half an hour.

Yes, a quick scan on "no lynch" suggests Ezio and Ryast. Ryast only suggested it because he wouldn't be on during EOD, so he won't switch to no lynch as he didn't already.

[brainbomb]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT 1.3
Jamiet99uk (2) dargorygel, Ryast
EMC (2) Ezio, Moscowfleet
RagingIke (1) Vaporwave
Dargorygel (1) RagingIke
Claesar (1) Jamiet99uk
PercyWilliams (1) Squiggs
Squiggs (1) Claesar

Not Voting (2) EMC, PercyWilliams

10 minutes remain

[dargorygel]

I like Claesar's analysis stuff. Mafia is not just math, which he acknowledges... I still believe the D1/D2 double lynch is town's advantage here in this set up.

Two no votes?
That is gonna hurt.
Wake up, you two!!!!

[e.m.c^42]

gonna tentatively give a slight townlean on Claesar

cuz feel like that he's just rusty/no meta reads to make, so falls back on math

as in, there's not too much of a scum motivation to advocate no-lynch --since it's generally seen as bad enough of an idea (i.e. something one easily gets scumread for) that I don't feel he would risk - and he doesn't feel like the wifomy kind of guy either (vecna, I feel for example - would act scummy as scum because he's town xd)

[Claesar]

I like Claesar's analysis stuff. Mafia is not just math, which he acknowledges... I still believe the D1/D2 double lynch is town's advantage here in this set up.

Two no votes?
That is gonna hurt.
Wake up, you two!!!!

EMC is here. He'll likely vote Jamie at the last moment. We may have lost Percy though.

[dargorygel]

Who was in this camp, Claesar?

Can you remember their names?

If I had to guess now, I'll say Ezio and Ryast. I'll reread in half an hour.

Yes, a quick scan on "no lynch" suggests Ezio and Ryast. Ryast only suggested it because he wouldn't be on during EOD, so he won't switch to no lynch as he didn't already.

And Ezio did not seriously agree with NL (for once.) He was joking.
I brought up the NL first, fishing. Didn't catch anything.

[e.m.c^42]

aw shit

eod is in 4 mins

I don't wanna die, but Jamie hasn't talked enough for me to want him to die either

[e.m.c^42]

but not enough for me to want him to live either xd

##vote jamie, unless darg/claesar move to another wagon that I can sorta stand behind.

[dargorygel]

My internet is wonky.
Thinking about switching to emc... but I can't trust my internet for last minute shenanigans.
NL is worthless... as is a tie.

[Claesar]

aw shit

eod is in 4 mins

I don't wanna die, but Jamie hasn't talked enough for me to want him to die either

If it's a tie no one dies, surely. But you do risk someone voting you at the last second. And Jamie himself can change his vote, too. We're in his timezone. 1AM at his place.

[Claesar]

1PM, I meant..

[e.m.c^42]

I've discovered I really don't like 12 hour phases

[brainbomb]

PLEASE HOLDTH PHASE HATH ENDEDTH

[dargorygel]

I've discovered I really don't like 12 hour phases

Me too

[brainbomb]

FINAL DAY 1 VOTE COUNT
Jamiet99uk (3) dargorygel, Ryast, emc
EMC (2) Ezio, Moscowfleet
RagingIke (1) Vaporwave
Dargorygel (1) RagingIke
Claesar (1) Jamiet99uk
PercyWilliams (1) Squiggs
Squiggs (1) Claesar

Not Voting (1) PercyWilliams

[brainbomb]

(A fishmonger girl walks through the busy market)

Mercy: Oysters clams and cockles? Anybody want some oysters clams or cockles?

Beggar: What the fuck is a cockle?

Mercy: Its this oddly shaped sea cucumber thingy. Crispy and delicious! Buy one get 2 free barnacle street tacos.

Beggar: Sure. I'll take 1. Give it here boy.

Mercy: Oh no. These aren't for you. they are poisoned and intended for the harbormaster. He's evil. I've been ordered to walk around offering people these rotten oysters and clams. I guess the harbormaster is a wicked man who robs hardworking sea people. Do you like seagulls? They seem like dumb birds.

Beggar: (Knocks her down with a stick, removes her face revealing she's not a beggar at all but is the waif)

Mercy: (her mouth bleeding and she's on the muddy ground) What is your problem old fool?

Beggar: I'm the Waif girl. You are giving away the purposes of the faceless men! Look at my face! Do you remember this face?

Mercy: Wait, How can I do that- give away secrets?? I don't even know the damn purpose of this guild! I'm just here for these cool outfits and free seafood. Although, this isn't better than Long John Silvers!

Waif: That's a lie. Long John Silvers is disgusting.

Mercy: Okay come on, the hush puppies are to die for!

Waif: speaking of dying, I'm going to stab you now!

Mercy: Why are you stabbing me repeatedly this hurts? Please stop thrusting that dagger into my stomach.

(a crowd of other faceless men all pull daggers and begin stabbing Mercy also)

Mercy: Im totally gonna survive all these stab wounds. I just have to jump off this bridge into that sewer water, avoid getting sepsis, hide, run across town, buy an egg mayo roll, and hope I haven't bled out. And then lady crane will stitch me up and i'll try not to get addicted to opiods.

(They cut Mercys head off but the head continues talking)

Mercy: I think I prefer clams to oysters, what about you? Do you like cole slaw? One time I dumped cole slaw on my father's horse. The horses name was frankie big hooves, and frankie sure looked funny with coleslaw in his mane. My father was the hand of the king until they cut off his head. They say you live for 8 minutes after your head gets lobbed off did you know that?

Waif: Oh shut up and die. I've stabbed you, we've cut off your ugly head. Why are you still talking?

Mercy: Oh mercy me, I think i'm dyin’, oh what a cruel world. Killed by my fellow assassins of the guild of deathmurder. I absolutely never saw this fate coming. I am truly no one now.

Waif: No, you're not no one. You're dead.

Mercy: But I'm a dead no one. Nothing isn't anything, it's just nothing. A girl knows nothing. I don't even know when i'm dead actually. That's how deep my nothingness goes. My favorite news source is the Nothington Post.

Waif: Silence. You're fucking annoying girl.
(kicks the head into the river of sewage water)

Jamiet99uk has died, he was Arya Stark of Winterfell. A member of the town.

DAY 2 BEGINS
you may now post

[dargorygel]

RIP Jamiet... and a STARK???

My hope of seeing voting to anyalyze did not much materialize... not much voting to consider.

Gut feeling, really, like most of the D1's.

Unfortunately, my gut feeling was also on Jamiet, and therefore wrong.

What's going to happen with Percy?