MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Vaporwave]

because Quas was trying earlier, he had shitty leans on people, but the guy was putting in sweat and effort

I felt exhausted by looking through his posts, I think that's a + but it's not enough to townclear him at all

[Vaporwave]

Nephtys

D1
claims Vecna is hard scum early
tries to pocket Emc
rest is fluff and non-serious

N1
I'm not being unreasonable, N1 don't really count since peeps grab this chance to take a break from this game (myself included)
However, his meat is placed on the table this N1, presents a case that links Vecna and emc as s/s
has dargo as scum 1, Vecna as 2
Me as part of Main town (pls remember this)

D2
mega interesting events
votes Vecna but then presents points against emc and switches his vote to emc
assumes dargo was scum
has emc as town after he says that his replies were okay, but later he's okay with lynching emc again
he does vote xorxes and asks if there's a tie

N2
gets increasingly sus of me
based on driver's result, towncleans Vecna
is happy to vote worcej

D3
Townie reaction to Jamiet's peek on Worcej

N3
Chasing me like a maniac

D4
votes me switches to Percy later not much info

N4
D5
talks mechanics

[Vaporwave]

My conclusion is that Neph is incredible and town

Yes, he sucked at times but had some great pushes on scum despite not being a huge part of this game,

as scum, he would be a caca asset given his behavior, I really think Neph doesn't act so absent as scum

Some points felt genuine

yeah, I'm clearing him

[Vaporwave]

N2 mafia was trying to roleblock Vecna but it got switched with Ike

I'm clearing Vecna off of this, it's just how it is

There was cop laying around, there was medicine man and I really don't think scum wastes this ability on a partner for shits, giggles and towncred

at least not on Vecna, who's skilled enough to clear himself through his mega townie posts

so yeah I refuse to think he's scum, there's 0 evidence

[Vaporwave]

ghug and thamrick, you guy are last scum

[Vaporwave]

D2 before Jamiet switched to Xorxes

Ezio (6) Jamiet99uk, bozotheclown, rdrivera2005, Percy Williams, xorxes, worcej
Xorxes (5) thamrick, ezio, LordQuas, MoscowFleet, Nepthys
Worcej (1) RakingIke,
Bo_sox48 (1) Vaporwave
Emc-42 (1) Emc
Nephthys (1) Vecna

[Vaporwave]

boo, I came back

I'm retracting my Neph townlean

thamrick's D2 looks miles better

and really Neph doesn't deserve a townlean from me

He was wishy-washy and I had him as clear, that was a naive move. All Neph has done this game is try a bit of Vecna, when he got cleared, came for me and never left since

Both Neph/Ghug are fat smelly scum candidates

I'm not finished with thamrick, I'm just saying he is really looking better than both of these two right now

[Nephthys]

boo, I came back

I'm retracting my Neph townlean

thamrick's D2 looks miles better

and really Neph doesn't deserve a townlean from me

He was wishy-washy and I had him as clear, that was a naive move. All Neph has done this game is try a bit of Vecna, when he got cleared, came for me and never left since

Both Neph/Ghug are fat smelly scum candidates

I'm not finished with thamrick, I'm just saying he is really looking better than both of these two right now

Realised you didn't have enough people to push?

[Nephthys]

boo, I came back

I'm retracting my Neph townlean

thamrick's D2 looks miles better

and really Neph doesn't deserve a townlean from me

He was wishy-washy and I had him as clear, that was a naive move. All Neph has done this game is try a bit of Vecna, when he got cleared, came for me and never left since

Both Neph/Ghug are fat smelly scum candidates

I'm not finished with thamrick, I'm just saying he is really looking better than both of these two right now

Realised you didn't have enough people to push?

Scum is

Vapor
Vecna
Ghug
Tham

In that order

[Nephthys]

boo, I came back

I'm retracting my Neph townlean

thamrick's D2 looks miles better

and really Neph doesn't deserve a townlean from me

He was wishy-washy and I had him as clear, that was a naive move. All Neph has done this game is try a bit of Vecna, when he got cleared, came for me and never left since

Both Neph/Ghug are fat smelly scum candidates

I'm not finished with thamrick, I'm just saying he is really looking better than both of these two right now

Realised you didn't have enough people to push?

Scum is

Vapor
Vecna
Ghug
Tham

In that order

Actually swap ghug and vecna. While I think vecna has been scummier he also has the rb which does make him a little more likely to be town

[Nephthys]

So, I have a few theories.

1) Most likely, Vapor is the assassin.

Mainly I want to focus on his reaction to my last "case" in which I was just pointing out every possible scummy thing he could have done. If you look back at his rebuttal, there are two important things to note,
- First, his explosive reaction, he went nuts, there was most certainly a very strong reaction, why so vicious?
- Secondly, Most his rebuttal focused on his interactions with xorx/worcej. I think the focus there was that he didn't have forced interactions because he genuinely didn't know that they were his buddies.

Putting these two together it seems clear to me that we was terrified/infuriated of being caught on a case that centered around his interactions with other scum when he himself didn't even know that they were his teammates.

Also worth noting,

Look at his change from N3, two key things happen here
1. 2 scum are conf dead and a 3rd strongly suspected dead
2. I make my case against him, people genuinely suspicious of him and willing to try kill him.
The second point may not actually be as relevant but the 1st definitely is. What would make the assassin the most comfortable to play strongly? Knowing that his team is all dead and there is no chance he will lead a lynch against them. It is only when we suspect we are 3 scum down that he comes to life, starts presenting cases and trying to drive rather than hedge.

Notice in his reads how he notes it important that I shift him from N1 town to N2 where I become suspicious and N3 where I chase him. Why is it odd that my read develops over time?

Most of his posts merely ask questions rather than any original content (prior to N3).

His use of the vote manipulator, horrendous, but also consistent with a person that will potentially kill a teammate by using it.


I found this entertaining as well and will bring it up again once he's lynched and confirmed as scum.

Ezio as alien seems such a gullible opinion. What's his deal then? Randing alien and gamethrowing by claiming his role? I feel that people who shade Ezio are mafia

Also your team which includes me is mega wrong mostly because I never teased those people I love to interact on thread with scum mates so your team is rushed wrong guess, at least concerning me

Are you saying if you are scum, the players you are interacting with the most are your teammates?

Not scum this game, but when I'm scum I enjoy bantering with partners

[Nephthys]

The above took too much time </3 need to work, gonna try later tonight for the others (none are as interesting sadly)

[Vaporwave]

boo, I came back

I'm retracting my Neph townlean

thamrick's D2 looks miles better

and really Neph doesn't deserve a townlean from me

He was wishy-washy and I had him as clear, that was a naive move. All Neph has done this game is try a bit of Vecna, when he got cleared, came for me and never left since

Both Neph/Ghug are fat smelly scum candidates

I'm not finished with thamrick, I'm just saying he is really looking better than both of these two right now

Realised you didn't have enough people to push?

No Einstein, I never pushed anyone this game, the reason for retracting is because I really don't want to be wrong in my vote something that you really don't care about

At least I'm making sure to look at EVERYONE
in contrast

you've been in a tunnel since D2 and never considered anyone else.

[Vaporwave]

I wanna see you try, Neph

put in the time and sweat, not this diarrhea case which is limp, smelly and liquoid...'he was hedgy, he was asking questions, wasn't original'

How was that different from many other players? Just say that you have bad leans this game, you had to pick someone and move on

Don't use 'points' that can be applicable to most players in this game in order to scumpaint me.

Once I'm killed, you will look exactly like a powerwolf.

[Vaporwave]

Tbh, I wanted to vote ghug next day, I feel him more like a wolf

but Neph won't let me,

so its basically ear for an ear

Like, I'm not letting Neph dish my play this game when he was mostly absent, talked briefly about mechanics and only had 2 scumreads

fuck that shit outta here

[Nephthys]

boo, I came back

I'm retracting my Neph townlean

thamrick's D2 looks miles better

and really Neph doesn't deserve a townlean from me

He was wishy-washy and I had him as clear, that was a naive move. All Neph has done this game is try a bit of Vecna, when he got cleared, came for me and never left since

Both Neph/Ghug are fat smelly scum candidates

I'm not finished with thamrick, I'm just saying he is really looking better than both of these two right now

Realised you didn't have enough people to push?

No Einstein, I never pushed anyone this game, the reason for retracting is because I really don't want to be wrong in my vote something that you really don't care about

At least I'm making sure to look at EVERYONE
in contrast

you've been in a tunnel since D2 and never considered anyone else.

In your last read list you said N3 but sure...

I have its just the chances are significantly less

[Nephthys]

But anyway, we aren't making process discussing this. I want Jamie and Tham to give their thoughts on my case.

Also, if you are going to try to disprove my case at least give some logical rebuttal to my points.

[Vaporwave]

But anyway, we aren't making process discussing this. I want Jamie and Tham to give their thoughts on my case.

Also, if you are going to try to disprove my case at least give some logical rebuttal to my points.

The key point of your case is my 'reaction' towards you a while ago.

You took that and built your assassin premise around it.

How an I rebut an assumption? I can tell that I've been upset over anyone voting me, I questioned Quas doing it

You also thought I was pocketing you which..gave me pause. I will remember for next phase to never use such things

[Vaporwave]

As for number of scums, I was wrong simply because I've forgot how many

This is consistent with me getting many 'mechanics' things wrong.

I've skipped chunks of the boring talk because I couldn't understand it and didn't want to waste time on it

[Vaporwave]

Everything in regards to abilities and this setup felt difficult to me

plenty of details,

Now smug players that have been in 500 games on this site know the do's and don'ts of a particular role

If you've never experienced this sort of jambalaya setup, it can take you by surprise and leave you clueless.. which is exactly what happened to me