MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Percy Williams]

[Ker-snip!]

I disagree, I think Percy Williams is a good scum candidate, with minor bussing of worcej and xorxes before landing on Ezio D1 and D2. I highly doubt both Percy Williams and Ezio are scum, but if Percy Williams is town, Ezio is a scum possibility, especially as assassin. Either way I think Ezio is a possibility as the alien.

What's your thought process on linking me/Ezio As one or the other scum?

I doubt you would hard bus Ezio D1 and D2.

That's valid, couldn't we both be town though?

[bozotheclown]

I did not see anything about Percy's vote on worcej that looked like a joke vote, only an early D1 vote. You seemed to be town reading Percy for his interactions with worcej and xorxes, but my point was that they looks like typical attempts at separation to me.

he voted worcej because of Ike's lynch order where he predicted we vote every single player in order

it's in the quote

really not sure how you missed it, or did you just look at the vote history and not the actual post

Also the joke was that Ike's predicted lynch order had me winning. So "I [was] okay with this"

Even a joke vote could be a form of attempted separation.

[LordQuas]

Okie dokie, so the lynch list:

D1 I'm going with Worcej
Ezio will also die D1 because Gun
N1 will be Xorxes
D2 is going to be Bo
N2 is Vecna
D3 is Neph
N3 is Thamrick
D4 is me
N4 is Damo
D5 is Vaporwave
N5 is Darg
D6 is Jamie (not sure why you clowns left him around that long)
N6 is Bozo
D7 is Rdr
N7 is Moscow
D8 is no lynch
N8 is LQ
D9 is Squigs

Town loses in LyLo to Percy

(Sorry Squigs, you were the 8th lynch not D8, slight miscalculation on my part)

I'm good with this
##VOTE WORCEJ

nice editing, so this was the real quote

[bozotheclown]

What's your thought process on linking me/Ezio As one or the other scum?

I doubt you would hard bus Ezio D1 and D2.

That's valid, couldn't we both be town though?

Sure, it is possible.

[bozotheclown]

Okie dokie, so the lynch list:

D1 I'm going with Worcej
Ezio will also die D1 because Gun
N1 will be Xorxes
D2 is going to be Bo
N2 is Vecna
D3 is Neph
N3 is Thamrick
D4 is me
N4 is Damo
D5 is Vaporwave
N5 is Darg
D6 is Jamie (not sure why you clowns left him around that long)
N6 is Bozo
D7 is Rdr
N7 is Moscow
D8 is no lynch
N8 is LQ
D9 is Squigs

Town loses in LyLo to Percy

(Sorry Squigs, you were the 8th lynch not D8, slight miscalculation on my part)

I'm good with this
##VOTE WORCEJ

nice editing, so this was the real quote

I pointed out I was quoting what Percy said.

[bozotheclown]

@LordQuas: I think Percy is the best scum candidate of the xorxes non-voters. If you are sure he is town, who do you think was bussing xorxes?

[LordQuas]

I'm good with this
##VOTE WORCEJ

nice editing, so this was the real quote

I pointed out I was quoting what Percy said.

yeah, but you are ignoring all the context. If you quote the entire thing it's CLEAR it's a joke and related to the literal quote he had. That's like the exact same thing as going

I pointed out I was quoting what Percy said.

who are you talking to and what are you referencing, you don't address anything in your quote!!!!

[LordQuas]

@LordQuas: I think Percy is the best scum candidate of the xorxes non-voters. If you are sure he is town, who do you think was bussing xorxes?

1. I'm not SURE he's town, but I think he probably is. You just haven't done anything to expand upon why you think he's a wolf besides some extremely basic (and partially just false) reasoning
2. I'm not sure anyone was bussing xorxes, because
3. I'm right about thinkin you're the last wolf right now

[thamrick]

Sorry I havent been more active today. I worked all day today and will be at work until at least 5 tomorrow. Hope to be on for EoD.

[bozotheclown]

@LordQuas: I think Percy is the best scum candidate of the xorxes non-voters. If you are sure he is town, who do you think was bussing xorxes?

1. I'm not SURE he's town, but I think he probably is. You just haven't done anything to expand upon why you think he's a wolf besides some extremely basic (and partially just false) reasoning
2. I'm not sure anyone was bussing xorxes, because
3. I'm right about thinkin you're the last wolf right now

Why do you think there is only one scum left? dargorygel could only have been the assassin unless you do not believe there was a role block N2, and as assassin he would not have known the other scum. Since he was primarily scum read for his reads list N1, it could have just been a poor reads list, since he would be working with the same information as town.

[Nephthys]

@vapor, can you actually be consistent with your read of me, I Leo moving between town and scum for you.

That being said I'm happy enough with your contribution that Percy is now my top lynch today.

##vote Percy


Dunno how much I'll get to read before tomorrow, and I've only skimmed the last 5 pages

[Vecna]

everyone with results

tell us for every night N1, N2, N3

Neph - Negative, no alien dna
Ike - Positive, has alien dna
Moscow - Negative, no alien dna


writing like this is so dry lol
i'd prefer to write it like this:

Neph and Moscow were clean,
RagingIke was green,
who to lynch?
Watch the flinch,
the answer easily seen.

Nope, Moscow could still have Alien DNA, I drived him last night. The good news is I am not infected so Alien can't control the drive next night.

Hmm thats really a shame. Waste of a result

[Vecna]

With Item Thief gone, is there a major downside to claiming items that are still left in play? They're NAI since they were randed. The only downside I see is that it could direct a NK if there's an item the remaining scum want out of play. Of the remaining items though:

Satellite Phone (3) - Vecna claims to have 1 of these I believe
Triage Kit
Reverse Alien DNA - gone with Yav NK
Alien Manipulation Ray - used by Vapor D1
Alien Heat Gun
Government Security Check - used by Jamie
Alien Synthesizer
Holy Herb
Alien Ray Gun - used by Ezio
Intelligence Box

don't necessarily jump in and say what items you still have if you have them.

I dont really see the point of focusing on this. Just makes it easier for alien and scum to make their choices, so we dont want people to talk about this

[Vecna]

it's D4 and there was no shot

our lovely co-host, dargo was assassin

Why would the assassin shoot early anyway? There is no reason, and this conclusion is bad

[Vecna]

I will not vote yet, but I am kinda liking the wagons.

I am missing Vecna, where are you?

He's on me for......reasons??

There is an obvious reason to be on you, specially with you voting the biggest wagon...

Multiple obvious reasons

[Vecna]

He's on me for......reasons??

There is an obvious reason to be on you, specially with you voting the biggest wagon...

I was enjoying watching Percy squirm,

##vote Rdr

Better?

Can we please lynch this?

[Vecna]

I've never seen such a desire to control

Jamiet wants to put his fist in my mouth and force me do his biding

Vecna, OH VECNA, where art thou? I need to find refuge in your strong, secure tower

Guys, stop calling for me during friday evenings. You should know by now that time is reserved for my first two loves

[Vecna]

Vaporwave (3) Nephthys, LQ, Jamiet

there's 1 filthy smelly powerwolf on my wagon

DO NOT FORGET IT, copy this wagon and note it somewhere

publish it in books across the world

an aggressive scum is after me.

Possibly, I still think there was a busser on xorxes.

I bet from the scums perspective, Xorxes' lynch was always inevitable. Especially with so many people on day2 already piercing through his posts and being lightly suspicious of his more numbed down posts.

I really dont think theyd be as aggresive about it as pushing it the way Tham did (he was the GF after all) but people trying to get towncred for pushing the wagon to be the largest are all fair game.

[Vecna]

xorxes (6)
thamrick Ezio LordQuas MoscowFleet Nephthys Jamiet99uk

Ezio (5)
bozotheclown rdrivera2005 Percy Williams xorxes worcej

I'm looking at the xorxes wagon and I have to consider that 1 scum is bussing

Ezio is confirmed non-scum, his gambit was weird if he's alien, I still maintain my position that he was town fishing for reaction

Confirmed non-scum how? By the Xorxes vote? Those second votes are quite often the ones placed there to look good later in the game, but the ones you come to regret as scum since you cannot remove them to switch to the counterwagon without looking super dodgy.

Not saying this is what happened, but I really dont get why people are ruling Ezio out from the scum pool. The only thing that gives me some doubt is that the PoE pool probably has to contain at least some misread players, since the scum are not even killing in the clears.

[Vecna]

xorxes (6)
thamrick Ezio LordQuas MoscowFleet Nephthys Jamiet99uk

Ezio (5)
bozotheclown rdrivera2005 Percy Williams xorxes worcej

I'm looking at the xorxes wagon and I have to consider that 1 scum is bussing

Ezio is confirmed non-scum, his gambit was weird if he's alien, I still maintain my position that he was town fishing for reaction

Run me through why Ezio is confirmed non scum again, I might be having a brain fart but I've been townreading him for days and I don't remember him ever being CONFIRMED

I'm not Confirmed. People on this site use that word too easily. I'm super likely non scum due to the interactions between me/xorxes/worcej

Which of those interactions do you think show best that youre not aligned with them?