MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[bozotheclown]

I'm withdrawing my order to heal Ike then. Or shall we go for scums? Anyway I will withdraw and you must want me to use it if needed.

I did not realize it was not an immediate use item. Can you use it during the day, and if so, does it then go through immediately?

[Nephthys]

I'm withdrawing my order to heal Ike then. Or shall we go for scums? Anyway I will withdraw and you must want me to use it if needed.

I did not realize it was not an immediate use item. Can you use it during the day, and if so, does it then go through immediately?

Doesn't explicitly say so, so imma guess no

[bozotheclown]

Am I missing something? Why isnt that possible? Alien acts before kills but after army driver

We know that Ike wasn't infected N1. His vote would have been redirected.

So either he was infected N2, he's the alien, or emc is lying

We were talking about the hypothetical situation in which Darg was the alien, in which case the vote wouldnt be redirected.

That is interesting, if the alien voted for no one because he was dead, shouldn't the N1 infect then vote for no one also if it follows the alien?

[e.m.c^42]

as for Vapor, I dunno if he's gotten infected by my Neph fanboying or something lol (but I'm glad I'm not alone in in xD)

haven't seen him mention Neph in the past like this, is the change in activity this game really that surprising for him to react like this?

Was never a fan of Neph, I was bewildered by his Vecna tunnel, I was fine with it because it appeared unusual but at the same time I disagreed with his take. Now he's pushing an obscure vision saying I'm 85% scum. I never had Neph as town and now that he neglects others and only concentrates on me makes the situation even more uncomfortable.

I also claim a trust in Vecna, first and foremost. But I'm nobody's fanboy :shock:

Huh.
I mean, not in the sense of his role in this game or specific actions he's done here, but just in general I've gotten that vibe from you lol
it doesn't mean that you aren't finding him iffy xD

[bozotheclown]

Who else except
- Percy
- Vapor
- Yav
- Ezio
Is in the POE here?

Im still suspicious of Ike myself. Losing Xorxes on D2 like they did they mightve gotten desperate and decide to claim RB on themselves to try and look good.

Besides, note how they also only had one or two actions available. Roleblocking someone means they couldnt use the item thief. Im also weirded out a little by how Ike keeps repeating that he was roleblocked.

How much time passed between start of day and Ike claiming it? Because it wouldve been risky to claim RB if they did succesfully steal an item, which could out it.

Was ike one of the people voting Xorxes?

It does seem odd that the scum would give up taking an item to perform a role block, especially since the RB could get driven to block the NK. Since the item thief can only hold one item, it is possible worcej had an item he did not want to use or give up yet.

[Vaporwave]

Ah well, can the cop just scan Vapor tonight?

don't waste the scan, if your senses are tingling so hard, then I'm okay being shot during day

[Vaporwave]

am I infected? I really don't know, but I assume the alien has no real interest in me.

I think the alien would try to infect players like Vecna and Jamiet, the brains of this game

[Vaporwave]

also, I'm not actually claiming cop per se

just that I have the info somehow :D

but Neph was a clean, clean boi

Knew it, got my townies right!

this is more or myself to remember where I'm standing with people

towns (might contain alien):
Neph
Jamiet
emc
Moscow
thamrick
Ezio

possible scums:
1 scum in bozo/rivera
yavuzovich
Ike

Never a fan of me? Bullshit.

I called a few positive traits, but it was never dramatic, I was surprised, calling you 'clean' means fanboying? Then what about me being giddy towards Vecna?

If I'm accused of flattery, I think it looks more conclusive on my posts addressed to Vecna. But those were a bit exaggerated because I've used Vecna as safe place this game, he was a refuge.

Yes, when I feel strongly that someone is town, I'm very enthusiastic. That's how it happened with Vecna

[Vaporwave]

Huh.
I mean, not in the sense of his role in this game or specific actions he's done here, but just in general I've gotten that vibe from you lol
it doesn't mean that you aren't finding him iffy xD

thanks for understanding , you've uncovered the layers and got to the seed of the matter

[yavuzovic]

I'm withdrawing my order to heal Ike then. Or shall we go for scums? Anyway I will withdraw and you must want me to use it if needed.

I did not realize it was not an immediate use item. Can you use it during the day, and if so, does it then go through immediately?

Don't think so, it was listed in the night actions order. Anyway need to call GM. I haven't read the following posts yet, I'll do that as soon as pages ends.

[yavuzovic]

am I infected? I really don't know, but I assume the alien has no real interest in me.

I think the alien would try to infect players like Vecna and Jamiet, the brains of this game

Wrong, alien would prefer players that are less likely to die. And mafia exactly wants to kill the brains of this game - unless they work with mafia.

Can someone remind me how Vecna was cleared?

[yavuzovic]

## call gm
Can I use my reverse alien DNA during the day phase?

[yavuzovic]

@Ike, you can still refuse euthanasia. The best is allowing alien to manipulate your mind though. You'll be zombie Thank God I have weakness potion and golden apple.

[ND]

##gm note:. Some items can be used night or day. The reverse alien dna kit is meant to be used at night.

[RagingIke297]

@Ike, you can still refuse euthanasia. The best is allowing alien to manipulate your mind though. You'll be zombie Thank God I have weakness potion and golden apple.

I think it's best to wait for

[e.m.c^42]

am I infected? I really don't know, but I assume the alien has no real interest in me.

I think the alien would try to infect players like Vecna and Jamiet, the brains of this game

Wrong, alien would prefer players that are less likely to die. And mafia exactly wants to kill the brains of this game - unless they work with mafia.

Can someone remind me how Vecna was cleared?

As I understand it, he got swapped with Ike, and Ike ended up getting the roleblock, so it's assumed that mafia tried to rb Vecna :D

[e.m.c^42]

@Ike, you can still refuse euthanasia. The best is allowing alien to manipulate your mind though. You'll be zombie 🤢 Thank God I have weakness potion and golden apple.

I think it's best to wait for

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing on the plans XD

everyone's avoiding talking about specifics in general lol, so I'm lagging somewhere

[bozotheclown]

am I infected? I really don't know, but I assume the alien has no real interest in me.

I think the alien would try to infect players like Vecna and Jamiet, the brains of this game

Wrong, alien would prefer players that are less likely to die. And mafia exactly wants to kill the brains of this game - unless they work with mafia.

Can someone remind me how Vecna was cleared?

Vecna is not cleared, but he was driven with RagingIke N1, and RagingIke claimed the role block, so Vecna appears to have been the role block target. It is still possible Vecna was planning to claim the RB as scum, and they used the RB on him in case he was driven.

[bozotheclown]

@Ike, you can still refuse euthanasia. The best is allowing alien to manipulate your mind though. You'll be zombie Thank God I have weakness potion and golden apple.

I think it's best to wait for

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing on the plans XD

everyone's avoiding talking about specifics in general lol, so I'm lagging somewhere

yavuzovic claims to have the Reverse Alien DNA item, and you claim RagingIke had a positive scan for alien DNA N2, so the question is whether yavuzovic should use the Reverse Alien DNA item on RagingIke tonight or wait to use it so we can use the self vote plan to try to identify the alien D4.

[e.m.c^42]

I think it's best to wait for

Can someone explain to me what I'm missing on the plans XD

everyone's avoiding talking about specifics in general lol, so I'm lagging somewhere

yavuzovic claims to have the Reverse Alien DNA item, and you claim RagingIke had a positive scan for alien DNA N2, so the question is whether yavuzovic should use the Reverse Alien DNA item on RagingIke tonight or wait to use it so we can use the self vote plan to try to identify the alien D4.

Yep, I got this part. What I haven't managed to deduct yet is how using the self-vote plan again will work lol

since it's worse off than yesterday, because we don't have a conf'd scum that we can choose people to vote for, essentially limiting it to only testing for possible alien vote movement instead of voting for reads?

it also let's alien throw lynch last minute if they want, and if nothing moves (ergo, if Ike was alien, or if yavu wasn't the one with the reverse dna, or if I was mistaken) we'd end up with a no-lynch day;

also since the reverse can only be used at night, it means that if infectee!Ike has any night actions he'd be controlled first (don't say if you have or haven't any lol) before being healed(?)

still feel like it's better to guarantee that he isn't alien/there will be no vote manipulation tomorrow/no controllable night actions and actually vote + discuss, instead of passively waiting. (also as a personal bonus there'll be confirmation that I'm not lying lmao)

and stuff I've said earlier I think xD