MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[thamrick]

I will vote for worcej. You need a strong argument to convince me that lynching alien is better.
Also if we lynch alien tomorrow, it's more likely to detect the alien - since it's possible that the infected can be dead.

Yavuz having such a strong opinion and thinking he knows better on mechanical matters than others after just replacing in feels -strongly- agenda driven

How many games have you played with yav?

[Vecna]

##GM NOTE
You may all stone me for stepping in before a question is asked... but please note this quote from the game documents:

"The day will end as soon as a majority of players are voting to endhammer the same player"

Oh. Well that makes things a lot more complicated

[Vecna]

Did we ever get GM confirmation that alien can still win even after death?

##CALL GM - please clarify
1) Does alien need to survive to win?
2) Can you confirm again that alien is not forced to infect?

1. Yes
2. Not forced to infect.

wow. Wasnt it stated earlier the infection was forced?

So this means we just do the plan, but with either 3 or 4 votes on Worcej?

And just prey we do catch the Alien.

This also means that the best use of the infection remover is for MUCH LATER

[Vecna]

I will vote for worcej. You need a strong argument to convince me that lynching alien is better.
Also if we lynch alien tomorrow, it's more likely to detect the alien - since it's possible that the infected can be dead.

Yavuz having such a strong opinion and thinking he knows better on mechanical matters than others after just replacing in feels -strongly- agenda driven

How many games have you played with yav?

I think all of them, including one where we were scumbuddies

[rdrivera2005]

As the player closer to be a townclear, I request all players vote for himself and anyone failing to do that until 12 hours to EOD should be policy lynched.
When all players have voted for himself I will choose three players to vote Worcej with me. If people fail to vote for himself we have a pool of Alien and scum candidates.

##vote rdrivera2005

[thamrick]

As the player closer to be a townclear, I request all players vote for himself and anyone failing to do that until 12 hours to EOD should be policy lynched.
When all players have voted for himself I will choose three players to vote Worcej with me. If people fail to vote for himself we have a pool of Alien and scum candidates.

##vote rdrivera2005

^ +1

[Vecna]

So the optimal strategy is to convince Worcej to selfvote, since he's obviously not going to live.

If he cooperates, the odds of finding the alien are highest. Then we can have Worcej + Rdrivera + one randomly chosen person by Rdrivera vote him.

The rest all selfvotes.

We have one person, also chosen by Rdrivera, be the backup voter. They have to be online at EOD to vote Worcej in case he decides to screw with us.

If anyone fucks with the plan, we lynch them tomorrow, period. If people are town, and fuck with the plan, its gamethrowing, so anyone fucking with the plan can only be assumed to be the alien.

Does anyone see anything wrong with this iteration? We can ofcourse have 1-2 extra persons vote him for safety, but these obviously reduce the risks of catching the alien.

[Vecna]

##vote Vecna

[Jamiet99uk]

So the optimal strategy is to convince Worcej to selfvote, since he's obviously not going to live.

If he cooperates, the odds of finding the alien are highest. Then we can have Worcej + Rdrivera + one randomly chosen person by Rdrivera vote him.

The rest all selfvotes.

We have one person, also chosen by Rdrivera, be the backup voter. They have to be online at EOD to vote Worcej in case he decides to screw with us.

If anyone fucks with the plan, we lynch them tomorrow, period. If people are town, and fuck with the plan, its gamethrowing, so anyone fucking with the plan can only be assumed to be the alien.

Does anyone see anything wrong with this iteration? We can ofcourse have 1-2 extra persons vote him for safety, but these obviously reduce the risks of catching the alien.

I wholeheartedly endorse this.

[Percy Williams]

##VOTE PERCY WILLIAMS
Join the self-vote.

[Vecna]

Well, guess that makes for a very boring remainder of this day.

Anyone feel like smacktalking the plan so we get the time to talk some sense to you?

[Vecna]

I probably wont be online again at Eod btw

[thamrick]

I agree it makes sense for worcej to do it, but he has sounded like he's just going to be difficult and I think it's unlikely he'll self-vote.

[dargorygel]

##GM note-vote
Vote Count 3.2
Worcej (3) yavuzovic, Bozo, Vapor
RagingIke297 (2) RagingIke, worcej
Nephthys (1) Nephthys
Jamiet99uk (1) Jamiet
e.m.c.^42 (1) emc
LordQuas (1) LQ
Thamrick (1) thamrick
Rdrivera2005 (1) rdrivera
Vecna (1) Vecna
Percy Williams (1) Percy Williams


Endvotes: 1/8 Jamiet99uk

Worcej has the most lynch votes so far.

Non voters: ezio, MoscowFleet
Non posters: Ezio, MoscowFleet
One and a Quarter Days remaining in this beautiful day

[rdrivera2005]

I agree it makes sense for worcej to do it, but he has sounded like he's just going to be difficult and I think it's unlikely he'll self-vote.

I think it's probably the best strategy to scum to have the alien exposed. It narrows the PR pool, make sure they don't lose a NK and there is no chance for scum to win with the Alien alive (with two scum left they can win with 4 players left) and by this time Alien would have won.
But he is trusting on town screwing so he can either survive or get a free kill. But maybe if everyone follow the plan he have no other alternative then complain too.

[Jamiet99uk]

If Worcej is going to stay on RaingIke, does it make sense for Ike to vote No Iynch?

[bozotheclown]

As the player closer to be a townclear, I request all players vote for himself and anyone failing to do that until 12 hours to EOD should be policy lynched.
When all players have voted for himself I will choose three players to vote Worcej with me. If people fail to vote for himself we have a pool of Alien and scum candidates.

##vote rdrivera2005

I think this is a good way to go.

##VOTE bozotheclown

[bozotheclown]

I agree it makes sense for worcej to do it, but he has sounded like he's just going to be difficult and I think it's unlikely he'll self-vote.

I agree we should not count on worcej cooperating and have three players besides worcej voting for him so he can't move him vote at the last minute.

[bozotheclown]

If Worcej is going to stay on RaingIke, does it make sense for Ike to vote No Iynch?

I think worcej would then just switch to someone else at EOD.

[Jamiet99uk]

If Worcej is going to stay on RaingIke, does it make sense for Ike to vote No Iynch?

I think worcej would then just switch to someone else at EOD.

Hmm yeah ok.