MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[worcej]

The fact that worcej prefers everyone to self vote should make it clear that it is not the best option for town.

It's of interest because I have better odds of making it past today. But mark my words, bozo or rdr are the alien at this point for how hard they are going all in to avoid the strategy.

[worcej]

You both can try to counter spin this to oblivion, but for the town letting me live a day to catch the alien now is the wisest move you could make. Laser focusing on me a scum and disregarding the alien makes you one step closer to doom.

[e.m.c^42]

If we all self vote, we could end up with no information about the alien while we get a town lynch. Choosing five players to vote for worcej guarantees a scum lynch and still provides a good chance to identify the alien, or at least narrow the alien down to a small pool. I do not care who the five players are.

Good point. It's just testing for possibilities today, and there's the additional advantage of having worcej dead early

and town can prolly still win even if alien does hide by voting with their infectee, just lynch all of them in worst case scenario XD (not to mention there's cop with scans that can further help later when it's worth claiming, unless it was Ike lmfao)

[bozotheclown]

Sorry, the first roleblock was my fault, I was scumreading you.

Scum might be wrong. But seriously, no RB was done.

Lol so the first one wasn't directed at me and the second one was town, amazing

It is very unlikely you were roleblocked by a town action, so if you were really roleblocked it is very likely the item thief and the secretary are both still around, which would mean dargorygel was either town, the assassin, or the alien.

[e.m.c^42]

lol rereading I'm just finding great amusement from this:

@worcej

how come you haven't hardclaimed VT yet?

Because I am trying to be better and not play poorly. Also because people considered it to be a poor play last game outting my role. I tried to provide some sort of useful strategy for us this game, because by my analysis the alien is more of a threat than scum and I thought my plan was actually decent to counter them.

But since you asked, HC VT. Woop woop...

[bozotheclown]

If we all self vote, we could end up with no information about the alien while we get a town lynch. Choosing five players to vote for worcej guarantees a scum lynch and still provides a good chance to identify the alien, or at least narrow the alien down to a small pool. I do not care who the five players are.

Good point. It's just testing for possibilities today, and there's the additional advantage of having worcej dead early

and town can prolly still win even if alien does hide by voting with their infectee, just lynch all of them in worst case scenario XD (not to mention there's cop with scans that can further help later when it's worth claiming, unless it was Ike lmfao)

Also, if the alien stays hidden today while we lynch worcej, we can try the self vote on day 4.

[e.m.c^42]

Scum might be wrong. But seriously, no RB was done.

Lol so the first one wasn't directed at me and the second one was town, amazing

It is very unlikely you were roleblocked by a town action, so if you were really roleblocked it is very likely the item thief and the secretary are both still around, which would mean dargorygel was either town, the assassin, or the alien.

I'm not actually sure if Ike misread or I'm misunderstanding mechs again lol
but didn't rdr say that he roleblocked Ike? So why would he say that the first one wasn't directed at him?

[bozotheclown]

Lol so the first one wasn't directed at me and the second one was town, amazing

It is very unlikely you were roleblocked by a town action, so if you were really roleblocked it is very likely the item thief and the secretary are both still around, which would mean dargorygel was either town, the assassin, or the alien.

I'm not actually sure if Ike misread or I'm misunderstanding mechs again lol
but didn't rdr say that he roleblocked Ike? So why would he say that the first one wasn't directed at him?

No, rdrivera has claimed driver, RagingIke has claimed to be role blocked both nights, and Vecna has claimed to be driven night 1. rdrivera also has said he drove worcej night 2. The most obvious explanation is that the scum role blocked Vecna night 1 and RagingIke night 2, with Vecna's role block driven to RagingIke.

[RagingIke297]

You get to learn the most by subjecting yourself to my will. Like I said, there is really one person I want dead right now, and that's the medicine man. Anyone else can be revived if your medicine man wants it.

So am I the medicine man?

[thamrick]

Who do you think the least likely people are that the alien would infect?

If I were alien, I would target low-profile, but mildly townread players. I would not target townclears or heavily scumread players.

I think I have a decent chance to have been targeted for infection last night tbh.
Ike would probably be a good target N2, not N1.
LQ probably a good target.
xorxes actually was a potential target after D1.
emc
maybe Vapor

Ezio unlikely to be infected
Jamie unlikely N2, possibly N1 but probably not

If we go with bozo's plan, I would be in favor of Jamie, Vecna, and Ezio voting for worcej and everyone else self-voting (besides worcej who can do whatever he wants).

[thamrick]

Lol so the first one wasn't directed at me and the second one was town, amazing

It is very unlikely you were roleblocked by a town action, so if you were really roleblocked it is very likely the item thief and the secretary are both still around, which would mean dargorygel was either town, the assassin, or the alien.

I'm not actually sure if Ike misread or I'm misunderstanding mechs again lol
but didn't rdr say that he roleblocked Ike? So why would he say that the first one wasn't directed at him?

Because rdr caused Ike to be RB'd by swapping Ike and Vecna. Scum probably targeted Vecna with RB, but it got swapped onto Ike.

As for N2, it's strange. Doesn't make a lot of sense as the dart. Hopefully someone didn't use the heat gun on him at night. Could be scum RB.

[Nephthys]

Who do you think the least likely people are that the alien would infect?

If I were alien, I would target low-profile, but mildly townread players. I would not target townclears or heavily scumread players.

I think I have a decent chance to have been targeted for infection last night tbh.
Ike would probably be a good target N2, not N1.
LQ probably a good target.
xorxes actually was a potential target after D1.
emc
maybe Vapor

Ezio unlikely to be infected
Jamie unlikely N2, possibly N1 but probably not

If we go with bozo's plan, I would be in favor of Jamie, Vecna, and Ezio voting for worcej and everyone else self-voting (besides worcej who can do whatever he wants).

First of all, we need five votes to guarantee the lynch.

I think there was a decent chance I was infected, especially N2.

As to who should vote
1. Rd - obviously
2. Ezio - If he is a I really want him to lynch himself
3. Jamie
4. Vecna
5. Vapor

I think the people most likely to be infected are; myself, emc, percy, and maybe ike. We should not be on the worcej wagon.

[thamrick]

Explain how this helps?

Self voting will not kill the alien, it just has the potential to identify him. If the alien infected N1 and his infected is still alive, the alien is not going to kill himself by leaving his vote on himself at EOD. Also, worcej has made it clear he is not going to cooperate by self voting. If you, me, and rdrivera (the uncced driver) vote for worcej while everyone else self votes, worcej will get lynched and the alien will still be identified if there is a N1 infected player around.

Actually, we need five worcej voters to guarantee worcej gets lynched, since the alien could potentially vote for whoever worcej is voting for to put that player at four votes (if the alien has the extra vote from a N1 infected).

This is wrong though.

We can assume anyone voting with Worcej (except for the self-voter) is alien or scum and auto-lynch them tomorrow.

[thamrick]

Who do you think the least likely people are that the alien would infect?

If I were alien, I would target low-profile, but mildly townread players. I would not target townclears or heavily scumread players.

I think I have a decent chance to have been targeted for infection last night tbh.
Ike would probably be a good target N2, not N1.
LQ probably a good target.
xorxes actually was a potential target after D1.
emc
maybe Vapor

Ezio unlikely to be infected
Jamie unlikely N2, possibly N1 but probably not

If we go with bozo's plan, I would be in favor of Jamie, Vecna, and Ezio voting for worcej and everyone else self-voting (besides worcej who can do whatever he wants).

First of all, we need five votes to guarantee the lynch.

I think there was a decent chance I was infected, especially N2.

As to who should vote
1. Rd - obviously
2. Ezio - If he is a I really want him to lynch himself
3. Jamie
4. Vecna
5. Vapor

I think the people most likely to be infected are; myself, emc, percy, and maybe ike. We should not be on the worcej wagon.

I just posted above this, but why 5?

[RagingIke297]

Self voting will not kill the alien, it just has the potential to identify him. If the alien infected N1 and his infected is still alive, the alien is not going to kill himself by leaving his vote on himself at EOD. Also, worcej has made it clear he is not going to cooperate by self voting. If you, me, and rdrivera (the uncced driver) vote for worcej while everyone else self votes, worcej will get lynched and the alien will still be identified if there is a N1 infected player around.

Actually, we need five worcej voters to guarantee worcej gets lynched, since the alien could potentially vote for whoever worcej is voting for to put that player at four votes (if the alien has the extra vote from a N1 infected).

This is wrong though.

We can assume anyone voting with Worcej (except for the self-voter) is alien or scum and auto-lynch them tomorrow.

Gunna throw it out there again, I'm fine taking one for the team here. I'm not worried about Worcej voting me, if anything it could save someone from being lynched

[thamrick]

Who do you think the least likely people are that the alien would infect?

If I were alien, I would target low-profile, but mildly townread players. I would not target townclears or heavily scumread players.

I think I have a decent chance to have been targeted for infection last night tbh.
Ike would probably be a good target N2, not N1.
LQ probably a good target.
xorxes actually was a potential target after D1.
emc
maybe Vapor

Ezio unlikely to be infected
Jamie unlikely N2, possibly N1 but probably not

If we go with bozo's plan, I would be in favor of Jamie, Vecna, and Ezio voting for worcej and everyone else self-voting (besides worcej who can do whatever he wants).

First of all, we need five votes to guarantee the lynch.

I think there was a decent chance I was infected, especially N2.

As to who should vote
1. Rd - obviously
2. Ezio - If he is a I really want him to lynch himself
3. Jamie
4. Vecna
5. Vapor

I think the people most likely to be infected are; myself, emc, percy, and maybe ike. We should not be on the worcej wagon.

I just posted above this, but why 5?

Also, I don't necessarily think rdr is the best choice. He's obviously clear now, but that's new info that alien wouldn't have had N1 or N2. rdr actually probably would have been near my top choices N1. He frequently makes it to endgame as either alignment (that obviously supposes that alien is familiar with the players)

[e.m.c^42]

You both can try to counter spin this to oblivion, but for the town letting me live a day to catch the alien now is the wisest move you could make. Laser focusing on me a scum and disregarding the alien makes you one step closer to doom.

do not fret, worcej dear
there ain't nothin' ya gotta fear

(but your reputation, oh)

carefree, happily you hardclaimed town
but heartbroken, soul-shattered, deep deep down

(because of a secret, oh)

your days are glum,
you randed scum;

(how devastating, :vvv)

so now you brainbomb like a chum

[LordQuas]

NIGHT HAS ENDED

It is dark in space… and so very, very, cold. No dark and stormy nights here, because every night is as dark as every day. No sounds. Nothing to see, other than distant light.

Space is not all that interesting, really, despite the expectations of intelligent species. Even those traveling from one planet to another are faced with the DEADness of interstellar space, with occasional bursts of excitement when…

SOMETHING happens.

At the end of a journey, or trek.

At the end of a stellar life cycle.

At the end of a comet’s parabola.

OR….

At the end of the Night’s Events in our little drama.

But not this time.

Night has ended.

Nothing is reported to have happened.

It is now Day 3.

You may post.

someone is lock clear correct?

[thamrick]

Actually, we need five worcej voters to guarantee worcej gets lynched, since the alien could potentially vote for whoever worcej is voting for to put that player at four votes (if the alien has the extra vote from a N1 infected).

This is wrong though.

We can assume anyone voting with Worcej (except for the self-voter) is alien or scum and auto-lynch them tomorrow.

Gunna throw it out there again, I'm fine taking one for the team here. I'm not worried about Worcej voting me, if anything it could save someone from being lynched

What do you mean? What are you suggesting?

(Sorry if I missed something. I only quickly scanned from my reads list to present)

[Nephthys]

Who do you think the least likely people are that the alien would infect?

If I were alien, I would target low-profile, but mildly townread players. I would not target townclears or heavily scumread players.

I think I have a decent chance to have been targeted for infection last night tbh.
Ike would probably be a good target N2, not N1.
LQ probably a good target.
xorxes actually was a potential target after D1.
emc
maybe Vapor

Ezio unlikely to be infected
Jamie unlikely N2, possibly N1 but probably not

If we go with bozo's plan, I would be in favor of Jamie, Vecna, and Ezio voting for worcej and everyone else self-voting (besides worcej who can do whatever he wants).

First of all, we need five votes to guarantee the lynch.

I think there was a decent chance I was infected, especially N2.

As to who should vote
1. Rd - obviously
2. Ezio - If he is a I really want him to lynch himself
3. Jamie
4. Vecna
5. Vapor

I think the people most likely to be infected are; myself, emc, percy, and maybe ike. We should not be on the worcej wagon.

I just posted above this, but why 5?

I think it was bozo that sounded it out but from memory,

Worcej + self-vote =2
On Worcej = 5

Assuming infected and alien on worcej they both move last minute and its 4/3 all of a sudden.

Need to make sure.