MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Vaporwave]

Rdrivera really seems agitated over the Xorxes lynch and how it went down

Neph also seems very upset this game

[Nephthys]

So a quick re-read on worcej

D1;

Lots of talk about the alien, a really weak reads list (admittedly p21) that mainly talks about people trying = town and MIA is NAI D1.

His read of xorx was that he was MIA and that meant nothing.

His voting is weird, says that he thinks Ezio is town but then shifts and says that if people want to lynch the alien he is keen. Some very weird logic.

He also responds to something squigs said right at EOD

N1

Goes on to consolidate that we really should have lynched Ezio.

Scumreads - Tham, LQ, Ike

Brings up his plan re the alien again

D2 - parks his vote on Ezio again



Essentially what this boils down to is a lot scum motivated stuff. What time he had he should have put in a lot more effort into scumhunting and based off that I would be extremely happy to see him lynched tomorrow.

Would you have liked me to just randomly throw my vote on someone else other than Ezio, who I had at least some justification to vote for still, to create a counter-wagon with no reason to put that vote on someone? I find myself backed into a corner with you that no matter what I do, it's scummy. I would judge someone incredibly harshly for just voting for someone random with no inherent reason to - that's the scummy behavior since a scum doesn't actually have to care where the vote lands.

In regards to scum hunting: It's incredibly difficult to scumhunt when all you're doing is playing 10+ page, sometimes 20+ page, catch-up almost every read you make so far in a game. Not sure if you've been in that spot repeatedly or not, but it's hard to track what's happening when you're just skimming over and over. I am glad we have gotten on scum and can easily catch the alien going forward from here on.

TL;DR - you're going to get more out of me going forward since I should *hopefully* be less swamped.

What?

Most of this game I've either been MIA or pushing the EMC/Vecna wagon.

I didn't really even mention you until I realised I wasn't going to be around EOD2.

Even then, I moved off.

I don't really know what to make of your comment, except that I don't think a town player would consider themselves backed into a corner with the attention I've given you.

I would ask that you explain it further tbh.

[Nephthys]

Rdrivera really seems agitated over the Xorxes lynch and how it went down

Neph also seems very upset this game

???

[rdrivera2005]

Rdrivera really seems agitated over the Xorxes lynch and how it went down

Nope, I am agitated/upset with the way Ezio is playing (if he is really town). I don't believe fake claiming is good for town and the gun claim and Dargo shot was pretty bad too. And now Ezio tried to act like his shitty play get Xorxes lynched.

[Jamiet99uk]

Oh hey Vecna, where have you been?

[Jamiet99uk]

It occurs to me that if Dargorygel was not the Assassin, but was one of the other two possible scum, then the Mafia have already lost their QT at this point.

Just a thought.

[Jamiet99uk]

Also, and this is nice, but in that case the one scum that still has QT access will only have a choice of NK or Roleblock, but not both.

[Vecna]

Hey Jamiet.

[Vaporwave]

Well my reaction test actually caught someone. It happened to catch someone who usually is easy to detect in xorxes, but at least it did something.

I'm really surprised that mf, neph, and jamiet voted xorxes at the end. They're seeming super likely town. Absolutely not lynchable for a long ass time.

You were just lucky that Thamrick pushed the lynch and enough people get on board, your useless reaction test have nothing to do with that and even you was reluctant to really lynch Xorxes.

rivera has been noticing things about Ezio, he's like a warrior with sharp senses this game. He was town when I first encountered him in my 1st game, more relaxed, but then he was also vacationing, another factor to take into consideration.

Who are your scum, rivera?

[Vaporwave]

E.m.c, where are you?

hope he's alright, had a very dramatic self-vote at EOD and felt a bit defeated

[RagingIke297]

E.m.c, where are you?

hope he's alright, had a very dramatic self-vote at EOD and felt a bit defeated

I don't even follow the thread that closely and I know he's having internet issues because of his grades rn

[rdrivera2005]

Well my reaction test actually caught someone. It happened to catch someone who usually is easy to detect in xorxes, but at least it did something.

I'm really surprised that mf, neph, and jamiet voted xorxes at the end. They're seeming super likely town. Absolutely not lynchable for a long ass time.

You were just lucky that Thamrick pushed the lynch and enough people get on board, your useless reaction test have nothing to do with that and even you was reluctant to really lynch Xorxes.

rivera has been noticing things about Ezio, he's like a warrior with sharp senses this game. He was town when I first encountered him in my 1st game, more relaxed, but then he was also vacationing, another factor to take into consideration.

Who are your scum, rivera?

Is this a question? I was scum last game where you also played and probably the player with more games as scum around, so not sure what this means?

[RagingIke297]

You were just lucky that Thamrick pushed the lynch and enough people get on board, your useless reaction test have nothing to do with that and even you was reluctant to really lynch Xorxes.

rivera has been noticing things about Ezio, he's like a warrior with sharp senses this game. He was town when I first encountered him in my 1st game, more relaxed, but then he was also vacationing, another factor to take into consideration.

Who are your scum, rivera?

Is this a question? I was scum last game where you also played and probably the player with more games as scum around, so not sure what this means?

Hes asking who your scum team is

[Vaporwave]

E.m.c, where are you?

hope he's alright, had a very dramatic self-vote at EOD and felt a bit defeated

I don't even follow the thread that closely and I know he's having internet issues because of his grades rn

you guys have an elephant memory I do remember now his parents being upset about his grades

[RagingIke297]

E.m.c, where are you?

hope he's alright, had a very dramatic self-vote at EOD and felt a bit defeated

I don't even follow the thread that closely and I know he's having internet issues because of his grades rn

you guys have an elephant memory I do remember now his parents being upset about his grades

I remember all the not important stuff, I had the first post and the very next one you voted me for being "too eager" or something along those lines

[LordQuas]

It occurs to me that if Dargorygel was not the Assassin, but was one of the other two possible scum, then the Mafia have already lost their QT at this point.

Just a thought.

Secretary only allows day chat, so I'm assuming that night chat is a given

[rdrivera2005]

It occurs to me that if Dargorygel was not the Assassin, but was one of the other two possible scum, then the Mafia have already lost their QT at this point.

Just a thought.

Secretary only allows day chat, so I'm assuming that night chat is a given

If Dargo was scum and not Traitor it doesn't matter as there will be only one scum left with access to any QT.

[LordQuas]

It occurs to me that if Dargorygel was not the Assassin, but was one of the other two possible scum, then the Mafia have already lost their QT at this point.

Just a thought.

Secretary only allows day chat, so I'm assuming that night chat is a given

If Dargo was scum and not Traitor it doesn't matter as there will be only one scum left with access to any QT.

*snap* that makes a lot of sense

[Jamiet99uk]

Secretary only allows day chat, so I'm assuming that night chat is a given

If Dargo was scum and not Traitor it doesn't matter as there will be only one scum left with access to any QT.

*snap* that makes a lot of sense

Yeah what I mean is, the night chat QT will still exist, but only one living player woukd still have access to it. So the remaining two mafia (if one is assassin) can't talk, and only one (Secretary or thief) is choosing the Mafia factional night action, which can be Roleblock OR Kill, but not both.

All of this, of course, assumes Dargorygel was scum. That seems likely but we can't be certain.

[Jamiet99uk]

If the Assassin is still alive, should they shoot Ezio in the morning?