MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[dargorygel]

Vote Count 4.6
Ezio (5) Jamiet99uk, bozotheclown, rdrivera2005, Percy Williams, xorxes
Worcej (2) Nepthys, RakingIke
Bo_sox48 (1) Vaporwave
Jamiet99uk (1) MoscowFleet
Xorxes (1) thamrick
Emc-42 (1) LordQuas
Nephthys (1) Vecna

No End votes
Right now, Ole Ezio is eyeing a black hole right in the eye.

Non voters: bo, emc, ezio, worcej

[Jamiet99uk]

Dargorygel Iso:

Page 27:

First meaningful posts. Thinks Ike is reaction testing with his trolling. Thinks I "don't feel right". Doesn't like e.m.c either and felt he had a scum connection with Damo.

Cannot figure out what Ezio is doing. Votes Ezio.

Also on page 27 he says this:

"And why me, vapor? There are others who have been on ezio much longer. I believe ezio is not lying, so let's get rid of the alien. If he IS lying, then he's goofing around and useless, so let's get rid of him. If he is up to some clever and deep-seated plan, then our best bet is to play along with him so he can get his reaction he seeks."

I really like the underlined sentence. My own general policy, at first instance, is to react to any claim on the assumption that it is real. Keep a close eye out for evidence the claim is fake, but take it at face value initially. This is a game about information. Claims are powerful tools. This is NAI, I just strongly agree with it.

Page 34:

His exchange with Squigs is interesting. He comes out of it seeming very focused on finding the Alien.

Page 38:

"Vaporwave is making some odd statements... that's for tomorrow."

Eww. I do not like this. Throwing vague shade at someone and promising to come after them later? Bit scummy.

Page 42:

After Ezio's retraction, he switches vote to LordQuas on "just gut feeling".

Page 43:

Moves swiftly to vote Damo666 because "it makes more things happen"

What things? That's another weird remark.

Chats to Moscowfleet about lynching me but then doesn't move from Damo.

Page 49:

Some discussion of the vote change by Vapour on me.

Page 58:

Repeats his scumread of LordQuas.

Page 60: Big wall of apparently pre-prepared cut-n-pasted reads, most of which are hedgy and awful. Includes a read on Damo666 who was dead at this point.

Soon after this night ends, and he dies.


Conclusion: Yes, he was probably scum. I see no reason on re-read to change that view. He defended RagingIke and threw shade on LordQuas and Vapourwave. Could there be something in those connections? It makes sense that an Alien Ezio would shoot him, first to eliminate a scum that was actively hunting him, and second to try to get town cred.

[worcej]

First, I owe you guys an apology - this week has been rough (New position at my job, weekend issues at said job, and family drama) and my time involvement has been significantly lower than normal. Just going to say, I am very quickly getting caught up on 15 pages since my last read.

Paraphrasing what I saw in that time:
- Ezio = scum/alien
- Ezio's reasons for how he handled the gun
- Misc. pokes between people, not sensing a uniform agreement between people on who is or is not scum.

So, really I am not very well up to speed on the miscellaneous discussions because of the number of interactions. I can say that I am still not okay with Ezio as possibly being the alien - I don't think much of his play has benefited town and is just self serving. It is bad, even I see it, but I am parking on ##vote Ezio because I probably can't get much more information without a lot of reading between now and EOD.

I saw some direct interaction, so here:

Questions for Worcej:

1. Why did you list Damo as a townlean at a time when you were voting for him?

2. Do you still consider Thamrick, Lord Quas, and RagingIke to be your main scum suspects?

1. The initial vote was a joke vote and was an NAI vote. Over the course of the D1, my vibe was Damo didn't really do anything substantial to warrant flipping. I felt of the options near EOD, Ezio had enough substance under him (the claims he made) to warrant the flip, thus I moved to him regardless of having a plan for D3.

2. Honestly, yes only because I haven't done enough in-depth reading - me skimming pages does not count - to warrant moving away from my EOD1 thoughts. But due to this weakness in my reads, I don't think I could provide any sort of push on these players, so I'll do what I can in the next hour to see if my vote should move or not.

[Jamiet99uk]

Just over 70 minutes to deadline and there are still FOUR non-voters. This worries me.

[worcej]

##vote Worcej

He's been around too long

I am quite curious with this push still. On D1 it was jokey, but we should be beyond that now. Do you not like the fact I had a plan for the alien and wanted to discuss it? Do you not like my defense against Squigs for trying to misrepresent my actions/opinions?

[ND]

Vote Count 4.7
Ezio (6) Jamiet99uk, bozotheclown, rdrivera2005, Percy Williams, xorxes, worcej
Worcej (2) Nepthys, RakingIke
Bo_sox48 (1) Vaporwave
Jamiet99uk (1) MoscowFleet
Xorxes (1) thamrick
Emc-42 (1) LordQuas
Nephthys (1) Vecna

Ezio is set to be lynched
One hour remains

Non voters: bo, emc, ezio

[Jamiet99uk]

##vote Worcej

He's been around too long

I am quite curious with this push still. On D1 it was jokey, but we should be beyond that now. Do you not like the fact I had a plan for the alien and wanted to discuss it? Do you not like my defense against Squigs for trying to misrepresent my actions/opinions?

Wanna make RagingIke the Ezio counterwagon?

[xorxes]

Non voters: bo, emc, ezio

bo is sick
emc always leaves his vote for the last minute
Ezio disappearing under pressure is classic scum Ezio

[xorxes]

##vote Worcej

He's been around too long

I am quite curious with this push still. On D1 it was jokey, but we should be beyond that now. Do you not like the fact I had a plan for the alien and wanted to discuss it? Do you not like my defense against Squigs for trying to misrepresent my actions/opinions?

Wanna make RagingIke the Ezio counterwagon?

Not a good choice for today after the drive/roleblock claim.

[Jamiet99uk]

Fair comment Xorxes.

[xorxes]

Is Jamiet the only one here with less than one hour to EOD? I know it's Sunday but still.

[RagingIke297]

I am quite curious with this push still. On D1 it was jokey, but we should be beyond that now. Do you not like the fact I had a plan for the alien and wanted to discuss it? Do you not like my defense against Squigs for trying to misrepresent my actions/opinions?

Wanna make RagingIke the Ezio counterwagon?

Not a good choice for today after the drive/roleblock claim.

Thanks boo

[Jamiet99uk]

RagingIke what is your case on Worcej, please?

[xorxes]

Wanna make RagingIke the Ezio counterwagon?

Not a good choice for today after the drive/roleblock claim.

Thanks boo

You're not clear, just clear-for-now.

[Ezio]

##vote Xorxes.

Too many issues with his usually airtight cases against scum. I don't ever recall town xorxes pushing for a lynch on someone he has solid reasons not to scumread on the basis of a potential, verifiable third party is shocking, and it reeks of scum xorxes.

[LordQuas]

Is Jamiet the only one here with less than one hour to EOD? I know it's Sunday but still.

I'm around I was just grabbing some more cereal

it's been a slow morning

[Jamiet99uk]

Moscowfleet has not met the posting requirement.

[Jamiet99uk]

Is Jamiet the only one here with less than one hour to EOD? I know it's Sunday but still.

I'm around I was just grabbing some more cereal

it's been a slow morning

What kind of cereal?

[thamrick]

##vote Xorxes.

Too many issues with his usually airtight cases against scum. I don't ever recall town xorxes pushing for a lynch on someone he has solid reasons not to scumread on the basis of a potential, verifiable third party is shocking, and it reeks of scum xorxes.

Choo choo

[LordQuas]

Is Jamiet the only one here with less than one hour to EOD? I know it's Sunday but still.

I'm around I was just grabbing some more cereal

it's been a slow morning

What kind of cereal?

quaker oatmeal squares