MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[ND]

##GM NOTE

I don't want to excite anyone prematurely but I think this freaking bot is working now.

[ND]

DAMO666 HAS BEEN LYNCHED he was LSD_FRANK


Please work... (sorry everyone I have to test this)

[RagingIke297]

##GM NOTE

I don't want to excite anyone prematurely but I think this freaking bot is working now.

Game status button works, day 1 button is still broken and might continue to be that way

[ND]

##GM NOTE
Yes the Bot is working and just registered Damo as being lynched. Day 1 is broken, but Night 1 is working and should work going forward. Thank you to those of you who helped assist in this grueling process.

[e.m.c^42]

The counter for posts is still off I think, but oh well.

[e.m.c^42]

You wrote the real analysis for me. Other people can read it and think what they want.

*bo sweats harder, he wasn't prepared for Quas to actually ask why he thought that post was bad*

*bo shivers sensuously, he thinks he's felt a tentacle brush him*

[e.m.c^42]

Wow, nine guests, someone come talk with me XD

I mean, I get that there's like two other chats, but don't neglect this one, we'll be sad if you guys do so.

[bo_sox48]

I'm going to apparently break character by posting something substantiative.

It is worth being mindful that I don't really care what Ezio's role is in the context of this conversation. The people that did the things they did had a motivation for doing so (or, well, hopefully they did). We should be digging for those motivations.

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Here's the timeline. These are according to the timestamps that are on my screen.

3:26 PM, vote count -

Ezio(8):. Damo, Percy, Darg, Jamiet, LordQuas, bozotheclown, Worcej, RagingIke

Note that this vote count was incorrect, emc had previously voted for Ezio.

3:33 PM --> Ezio unclaims

3:34 --> darg jumps ship

ok
##vote LordQuas

just gut feeling.

3:37 --> darg jumps the new ship

No... (sorry ND) actually I'll vote my other gut feeling.
Because it makes more things happen
##VOTE DAMO666

3:42 --> emc posts preparing to jump ship

Well.

who to vote for now lol

tbh the only person I found extremely ooc so far was Neph, but it's strange enough that it doesn't feel like scum

3:43 --> LordQuas posts his intention to stay on Ezio, with some other options

I would be fine with darg/vapor/bo/and like, maybe moscow? as wagons

but failing that I'm staying on ezio

3:44 --> emc unvotes

##unvote

Ike, have you read your pm yet?

3:44 --> LordQuas updates his list

I would be fine with darg/vapor/bo/and like, maybe moscow? as wagons

but failing that I'm staying on ezio

I guess I don't mind ike and damo that much either but I feel like they're just lhf that people are going to use

3:48 --> LordQuas jumps ship, votes darg

it's neutral as hell is what I'm saying, and you should have retracted your claim awhile ago I really don't think you left enough time

you're going to need to give me more than that though, it's still pro-town to vote you off. I don't think anyone voted you without considering the possibility of fake claim

I think you're probably just a town trying to make a fake claim play that's suffering from HUGE FPS, but I'm fucking pissed if you're the alien

##Vote darg

didn't get involved, looked to try and get ezio lynched but wasn't being active either way. I think scum would try to get you lynched but also not be a huge proponent of it for the reasons you're stating, they're aware it might make them look bad. Also was extremely eager to jump ship once you started calling them out, and they've felt off all of last game

darg literally went against the entire concensus on who to vig last game, and now they just sheep someone blindly who was claiming alien? I really doubt that

3:50 --> Vaporwave votes Ike "to save Ezio"

##VOTE IKe

to save Ezio

3:50 --> Jamie stays on Ezio, maintains scumread on Ike

Jamie - updated take?
LQ?
Ike?

I don't believe Ezio's retraction.

I town-read Lord Quas.

My feelings on Ike have not changed, I think he's scum.

3:50 --> Moscow townreads Ike - note previous hard townread of Ezio

Cmon guys, don't do this. I'm not scumreading Ike at all. What has he done that's been so bad?

3:54 --> LordQuas votes Ike, with... caveats

##Vote Ike

we should be voting vapor or darg

3:55 --> Moscow votes Ike > Ezio, apparently had to pick between townreads, poor guy

VC is correct, numbers at the front are wrong.

##vote Ike because Ezio>Ike, but really this is ridiculous.

3:55 --> Ike votes darg --> untied vote, put himself in the lead to be lynched if I counted correctly (probably didn't)

3:56 --> emc votes Neph, who has 0 votes, with 4 minutes to go in phase and is well aware of how stupid it was

I really don't like either of the lead wagons

##vote neph, this will be my first time voting alone lmfao

but I can't get over him just trolling/fluffing, for several irl days.

3:56 --> Moscow votes damo
3:56 --> LordQuas votes darg
3:56 --> Ezio votes damo
3:56 --> LordQuas unvotes darg, votes damo
3:56 --> thamrick votes damo
3:57 --> Ike votes damo
3:57 --> Squigs votes darg
3:57 --> emc unvotes Neph, votes damo
3:58 --> rdrivera stays on Ike
3:59 --> bozo unvotes Ezio, votes damo

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My interpretation of this sequence is the following: you all fucking suck.

Actual points:

• darg unvoted Ezio for no reason following Ezio's unclaim. His vote on LordQuas was shortlived. He did not make any effort to start a wagon or do anything at all. He then voted damo, in an apparent change of heart. Again, he did pretty much nothing other than make his actual vote and then... nothing. It is scummy as fuck to unvote someone who claimed third party (and is the leading wagon) simply because they retracted their claim, and if you disagree with me please do us a favor and message the GM saying you are not psychologically fit to play this game.

• Emc seemed fascinated and entertained by the sweepstakes of where his vote would land. He talked up his move off of Ezio before even doing it. He fucked around with his vote by starting an empty wagon on Neph with 4 minutes to go in the phase. If he's scum, he's the most nonchalant scum ever.

• LordQuas was extremely indecisive despite his apparent aggressiveness toward, well, everyone. He wanted to stay on Ezio, but realized it was prudent to jump off of him. Why was it prudent? That depends on his role. If he's town, it was prudent because the wagon was clearly losing momentum. If he's scum, it gets a whole lot more murky. The reasons I lean town on him after this sequence are a) he clearly thought his vote through each and every time despite the fast pace, b) he had ample opportunity to return to Ezio, either for a bus or a pile, and didn't, and c) he had the foresight to plan out where his vote might end up on wagons that weren't even in existence yet. Given the pace and general weirdness of it, I think he played this EOD quite well, and yes I am well aware that that is basically the antithesis of how I first saw it.

• Vaporwave looks like he had the time of his life this EOD. I need some of what he's smoking. Either a stupid townie or an incredibly, unbelievably stupid scumbag, but probably the former.

• At 3:38 PM, MoscowFleet was "indifferent" to any other lynch besides Jamie, who he voted for previously and then did not attempt to rally a wagon on really at all. At 3:50 PM, he had become emotional about the lynch, deploring the lead wagons Ezio and Ike. At 3:56 PM, he nonchalantly voted for damo without any fanfare. Moscow played EOD1 extremely conservatively and as far as I can tell he failed to even try to make any significant strides toward accomplishing anything that he wanted to at the end of the day. His EOD was scummy as hell.

• At 3:59 PM, bozo jumped off of Ezio onto damo. The vote was meaningless. However, the action was not. He had clearly read enough of the EOD to cast a new vote. He knew Ezio had retracted and knew that damo was a leading wagon. He had been keeping up, but did not post nor attempt to do anything substantial. I find that scummy.

• Ike's vote at 3:55 PM appears to have untied the vote and put himself in the lead. If I counted incorrectly and this is not the case, then this point is moot, but if I counted correctly, I do not see scum - or third party, for that matter - being so careless about the vote count when they are on the block that they would do that.

[thamrick]

I really like bo's last post, which probably means bo is scum. However, I'll continue to treat him as town so he provides useful content like that.

I literally lol'ed at Ike saying LQ would tunnel bo all the way to China. So many +1s are deserved

[bo_sox48]

You like that? Anyone could have done that. All it requires is effort. Being mafia wouldn't preclude someone from having the ability to put in effort.

[RagingIke297]

Ummmmmm, LQ broke Bo. He puts in that much effort in entire games not single posts

[LordQuas]

I literally said I would rather go after darg and maybe ike or damo than ezio

and then I did exactly what I said I was going to. I never PLANNED stay on ezio like you claimed, I just would rather vote ezio than Jamie. Stop gas lighting me, I clearly said I would rather lynch all three people I voted for EoD than Ezio in those first two posts

now fuck off and learn to read English, if you want to talk about being aggressive towards everyone you've literally done jack shit except call everyone else in the game "fucking idiots" and complain about how shit we are

if that's the case, maybe you're just too much of a pussy to put yourself out there and admit you might be wrong. Now go jack yourself off and cry yourself to sleep because you don't have good enough social skills to interact with others beyond insulting them

:)

[LordQuas]

You like that? Anyone could have done that. All it requires is effort. Being mafia wouldn't preclude someone from having the ability to put in effort.

He meant he liked the joke ike made dipshit

[bo_sox48]

You like that? Anyone could have done that. All it requires is effort. Being mafia wouldn't preclude someone from having the ability to put in effort.

He meant he liked the joke ike made dipshit

Oh, you're right, I read it again. Clearly, you're right. These 6 words give it away. I should have noticed.

I really like bo's last post

[RagingIke297]

Jeez LQ, cool it, Bo is a cool guy, he doesn't deserved to be talked to like that

[LordQuas]

You like that? Anyone could have done that. All it requires is effort. Being mafia wouldn't preclude someone from having the ability to put in effort.

He meant he liked the joke ike made dipshit

Oh, you're right, I read it again. Clearly, you're right. These 6 words give it away. I should have noticed.

I really like bo's last post

whoops, my bad, thought you were talking about when he said he loled at ike's comment

[bo_sox48]

"now fuck off and learn to read English"

- LordQuas, 2019

[LordQuas]

Jeez LQ, cool it, Bo is a cool guy, he doesn't deserved to be talked to like that

no, he does deserve

he's literally insulted everyone in this game with no provocation

I don't mind talking shit but if someone wants to insult others, they should be fully prepared to get flamed back even more

[LordQuas]

"now fuck off and learn to read English"

- LordQuas, 2019

then we're in the same boat cause I can't read for batooty, I accept this

[RagingIke297]

Jeez LQ, cool it, Bo is a cool guy, he doesn't deserved to be talked to like that

no, he does deserve

he's literally insulted everyone in this game with no provocation

I don't mind talking shit but if someone wants to insult others, they should be fully prepared to get flamed back even more

I haven't been reading too much, did he insult everyone at once or has it been a 1 by 1 process?