MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Jamiet99uk]

Bozo I can see you lurking there.

[e.m.c^42]

The mafia other than the assasin have day chat while the secretary lives. So presumably the Godfather will have told them the identify of the Assassin.

Oooh true. (vecna is this what I missed xd)

rip

didn't occur to me that godfather would want to tell others unless assassin is bout to get lynched or something.

[bozotheclown]

this is late but whatever

@bozo
What is this mafia AI you're referring to :D
are you willing to share some more on it? like, what does it even look for lol

Sorry, that is proprietary, but right now it is guessing the scum team is Nephthys, Vaporwave, Squigs, and rdrivera. However, I think it probably has not moved from its initial state based on past games. It thinks Ezio is the alien, but I think it still needs to learn not to take Ezio literally.

Ezio as alien seems such a gullible opinion. What's his deal then? Randing alien and gamethrowing by claiming his role? I feel that people who shade Ezio are mafia

Also your team which includes me is mega wrong mostly because I never teased those people I love to interact on thread with scum mates so your team is rushed wrong guess, at least concerning me

Are you saying if you are scum, the players you are interacting with the most are your teammates?

[bozotheclown]

Bozo I can see you lurking there.

That is because I do not keep my online status hidden like those who want to read the thread without being detected.

[e.m.c^42]

why is bozo referring to itself in the third person?

bozo, since you're here;

apologies, but was the AI thing a joke or an actual thing XD

I can't remember if I was playing along or not yesterday, and it'd be nice to have clarification to whether they're actual reads or not lol

[rdrivera2005]

Bozo I can see you lurking there.

That is because I do not keep my online status hidden like those who want to read the thread without being detected.

This was a really good answer. Probably first time I have a town read on Bozo at D1.

[rdrivera2005]

why is bozo referring to itself in the third person?

bozo, since you're here;

apologies, but was the AI thing a joke or an actual thing XD

I can't remember if I was playing along or not yesterday, and it'd be nice to have clarification to whether they're actual reads or not lol

EMC, what exactly you expect to get from this question other then appear to be participating?

[bozotheclown]

why is bozo referring to itself in the third person?

bozo, since you're here;

apologies, but was the AI thing a joke or an actual thing XD

I can't remember if I was playing along or not yesterday, and it'd be nice to have clarification to whether they're actual reads or not lol

I was just speculating on what an AI trained on past games might come up with.

[Vaporwave]

Sorry, that is proprietary, but right now it is guessing the scum team is Nephthys, Vaporwave, Squigs, and rdrivera. However, I think it probably has not moved from its initial state based on past games. It thinks Ezio is the alien, but I think it still needs to learn not to take Ezio literally.

Ezio as alien seems such a gullible opinion. What's his deal then? Randing alien and gamethrowing by claiming his role? I feel that people who shade Ezio are mafia

Also your team which includes me is mega wrong mostly because I never teased those people I love to interact on thread with scum mates so your team is rushed wrong guess, at least concerning me

Are you saying if you are scum, the players you are interacting with the most are your teammates?

Not scum this game, but when I'm scum I enjoy bantering with partners

[Vaporwave]

Bozo I can see you lurking there.

That is because I do not keep my online status hidden like those who want to read the thread without being detected.

e.m.c's doc is full of his tinfoils regarding people that lurk as guests, I think people who were online last game and now they've set their privacy to guest are more suspicious, but who is able to remember? it's prob NAI, was still fun to look into e.m.c's thoughts, the guy exudes purity in all its natural form

[thamrick]

Thanks emc

That's basically what I've gathered so far as well.

Disagree on LQ - think he has been coming through as pretty pure town in his posts.

Why lean town on Vapor? Don't really get that from what you said.

Do you think Ike likely to troll as scum?

Also, what do you think of damo? You mentioned him but didn't state an opinion one way or the other. He's done a lot of read-worthy things imo

I'm basing from the game when Quas was really really active and encouraging people to post, but considering he's in the sim + has exams, he probably leans town too lol
his reasoning isn't bad, but don't have any concrete examples right now other than he did scumread me for acting scummy XD
but his posts seemed sorta filler-y early on, but rereading him I'm chalking it to being busy

Garbage read

for Vapor, I guess it would be partially due to him gutreading Ezio as trolling town and sticking with it. Also, he was really different as scum 1st game, then did a 180 in the second--so feel like if he was scum he would put more effort into being different from that. also, don't see a benefit for scum to push not discussing alien, but I might be wrong.

Great read

Ike will stay null until he either reads his pm, claims to read his pm, or stops shitposting by tomorrow lol (if he doesn't, it's going to be scummy since the shit and giggles don't really outweigh the town benefits of doing so)
like, he built up with trolling last game as cop, so it's possible he's doing it as town. I have no idea how he acts otherwise

Great read


emc - you get a lot of flak for being wishy-washy, fluffy, or whatever you want to call it. That's how the first read comes off. The second two are really good though. If you focus on more stuff like you're picking up from those bottom two reads, it'll only make you a better player.

As far as read content,

[...snip snip...] his reasoning isn't bad, but don't have any concrete examples right now other than he did scumread me for acting scummy XD (... snip...)

Why do you slight townread him for scumreading you for acting scummy? Obviously it's a bit of a joke based on your XD, but it just pings me a bit. Explain what info you got from acting scummy and people's reactions to that.

Re: Vapor - disagree somewhat. I think it's easy to say that people would want to act differently than they did last time they were scum, but harder in practice to actually act differently. Also, the benefit for scum to push not discussing alien is the easy towncred they get for your exact reasoning. Bit of wifom, sure, but it is something to consider.

[e.m.c^42]

EMC, what exactly you expect to get from this question other then appear to be participating?

Clarification, since iirc Vapor/Darg(?)+ maybe someone else as well as me was understanding "Bozo's AI says *players* are *alignment*" as Bozo putting his reads in an unorthodox format/trolling xd

so now that he's clarified, I know to not take them as reads, but just sharing info


and @Bozo, that's really cool :D
maybe I can bribe one of my friends to do something like that

But, what are your thoughts? Not the AI ones lol

[thamrick]

##VOTE darg

Sorry you randed scum darg

[bozotheclown]

EMC, what exactly you expect to get from this question other then appear to be participating?

Clarification, since iirc Vapor/Darg(?)+ maybe someone else as well as me was understanding "Bozo's AI says *players* are *alignment*" as Bozo putting his reads in an unorthodox format/trolling xd

so now that he's clarified, I know to not take them as reads, but just sharing info


and @Bozo, that's really cool :D
maybe I can bribe one of my friends to do something like that

But, what are your thoughts? Not the AI ones lol

I have not found too much suspicious, I think the scum is doing a good job blending in so far. I do find Vecna somewhat suspect, since I do not really agree with a number of his reads/comments. Then there was the thing where Vecna explained why he should not be an early scum NK.

[Vecna]

Yes u did

Did you already figure out what you missed?

Not sure, I checked and assassin doesn't know teammates (i.e. they're shooting blind). I'll reread again

Youre either very good at playing oblivious, or very much town

[RagingIke297]

The more I think about it, I'm quite sure RagingIke is actually scum.

Look how cool and calm Ike was when he was the lead wagon earlier today. Ike is an experienced player. He knows that early D1 pressure or policy wagons rarely last the distance. When he was lead wagon he did nothing to defend himself, he openly broke the rules and allowed attention to be drawn to this, and acted calm and jokey and flippant, not seeming to feel under any pressure.

Scumteams often employ one of their number in the role of noisy, distracting, attention seeker. This fills the thread up with noise and allows the other scum to lurk or keep their distance.

##Vote RagingIke

I know Ike. I've been on Ike's team. I've co-GMed with Ike. Ike enjoys being scum. Ike is calm and happy as scum.

This is scum Ike, folks. Lynch him with me and get town off to the right start.

I wouldn't know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Vecna]

The mafia other than the assasin have day chat while the secretary lives. So presumably the Godfather will have told them the identify of the Assassin.

Oooh true. (vecna is this what I missed xd)

rip

didn't occur to me that godfather would want to tell others unless assassin is bout to get lynched or something.

Or maybe not that good.

[Vaporwave]

EMC, what exactly you expect to get from this question other then appear to be participating?

Clarification, since iirc Vapor/Darg(?)+ maybe someone else as well as me was understanding "Bozo's AI says *players* are *alignment*" as Bozo putting his reads in an unorthodox format/trolling xd

so now that he's clarified, I know to not take them as reads, but just sharing info


and @Bozo, that's really cool :D
maybe I can bribe one of my friends to do something like that

But, what are your thoughts? Not the AI ones lol

I have not found too much suspicious, I think the scum is doing a good job blending in so far. I do find Vecna somewhat suspect, since I do not really agree with a number of his reads/comments. Then there was the thing where Vecna explained why he should not be an early scum NK.

Interesting read, Vecna usually tires of being townread cause this will lead to him being nightkilled early. I'm finding Vecna more or less the same, the tone and the way he's phrasing things gives off an 'I'mma be real with you, guys' vibe

if he's scum, then I'll be surprised. Imitating the same detective style and speech is a skill

[Vaporwave]

thought bozo's AI refers to artificial intelligence, the alien

[rdrivera2005]

EMC, what exactly you expect to get from this question other then appear to be participating?

Clarification, since iirc Vapor/Darg(?)+ maybe someone else as well as me was understanding "Bozo's AI says *players* are *alignment*" as Bozo putting his reads in an unorthodox format/trolling xd

so now that he's clarified, I know to not take them as reads, but just sharing info


and @Bozo, that's really cool :D
maybe I can bribe one of my friends to do something like that

But, what are your thoughts? Not the AI ones lol

I have not found too much suspicious, I think the scum is doing a good job blending in so far. I do find Vecna somewhat suspect, since I do not really agree with a number of his reads/comments. Then there was the thing where Vecna explained why he should not be an early scum NK.

Which reads you don't agree? I agree with most of his reads to be honest, disagree only about emc.