MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[thamrick]

@jamie why did you back off squigs

I called him out for posting loads of crap and then he kinda stopped doing it. I then became engaged with RagingIke's crap instead.

This is a weird observation. Why do you think Squigs would stop posting loads of crap after being called out on it? Does that make him more scummy or less? And why can you only suspect/pressure 1 person at a time?

[e.m.c^42]

yeah, fuck this shit

it's too boring restricting myself to less than 20-something posts, and already got what I wanted anyways

sorry, but not really sorry guys lol

[Percy Williams]

FWIW - My gut so far, with no working bot to do deep analysis:

- Percy is pocketing people/votes without contributing until finally voting for Ezio due to his claim. NAI in first 24 hours, scum leaning later only on the basis of I think he's a newer player.

I just act super suspiciously, I enjoy cheap humour too much. I'm on the good team this round.

[Vecna]

@jamie why did you back off squigs

I called him out for posting loads of crap and then he kinda stopped doing it. I then became engaged with RagingIke's crap instead.

This is a weird observation. Why do you think Squigs would stop posting loads of crap after being called out on it? Does that make him more scummy or less? And why can you only suspect/pressure 1 person at a time?

The fuck? Youre asking for a quick recap and suddenly youre discussing shit that happened on page8 30 seconds later? You must be a hella quick reader.

[Vecna]

yeah, fuck this shit

it's too boring restricting myself to less than 20-something posts, and already got what I wanted anyways

sorry, but not really sorry guys lol

The fuck does this mean?

[Vecna]

Also, really looking forward to Nepthtys participating instead of sitting on the sidelines making snide remarks about nothing

[e.m.c^42]

yeah, fuck this shit

it's too boring restricting myself to less than 20-something posts, and already got what I wanted anyways

sorry, but not really sorry guys lol

The fuck does this mean?

that I'm copy-pasting all the replies I didn't send from a doc to here, lel

so there might be a lil' bit of walls

[Vaporwave]

yeah, fuck this shit

it's too boring restricting myself to less than 20-something posts, and already got what I wanted anyways

sorry, but not really sorry guys lol

So..I've expressed my opinion on you 2 times now and I'm already seen as defending you

better not disappoint, e.m.c! We're in the same boat. If yer townie make your colors more vibrant

Is there any scumbo whose smell you find repugnant?

[thamrick]

I called him out for posting loads of crap and then he kinda stopped doing it. I then became engaged with RagingIke's crap instead.

This is a weird observation. Why do you think Squigs would stop posting loads of crap after being called out on it? Does that make him more scummy or less? And why can you only suspect/pressure 1 person at a time?

The fuck? Youre asking for a quick recap and suddenly youre discussing shit that happened on page8 30 seconds later? You must be a hella quick reader.

I had read up to page 8 previously. I was starting where I left off

[Vecna]

I guess ill just never understand people that put in the time to read 8 pages but then fail to comment on anything whatsoever.

[e.m.c^42]

But seriously though, I was supposed to get off work at 1:00 today and it's now 7:30. I just got home and am exhausted. Catching up on the thread now. Anyone care to give me a brief summary of things in their opinion?

Aight.

tl;dr not in chronological order, personal opinion at the end:

it's been relatively quiet and not-spammy, without certain players :p

Vecna imo has been more proactive this game, so he's got more time or something--instead of doing a lot of catchup he's been live-responding. May be doing that in order to be more towny, but leaning on town for now.

Squigs and Vecna had something over how Squigs/Jamie/Ike interacted (in the first half of the pages iirc), but live discussion made Vecna lean more town(?) on Squigs, due to sharing suspicions.

worcej proposed a mech plan for finding alien, and hardclaimed town, damo pushed it as well.

vapor has been more subdued so far, but it's prolly since it's still day 1 (and he's not conf. town). He's also a fan of waiting to discuss later in regards to alien. lean town

Ezio claimed alien and a gun, opinions are divided on what he is and why lol
also rather quiet, his first post iirc was claiming.

Jamie has been acting OOC from the previous few games, and same as above: it's been a bit divided on whether him being quiet, and non-aggressive is town or scum meta. Null for me until he does something more xD (but dunno, feel like he would play more to match his perceived town meta as scum)

Ike has been trolly, both he and bo claimed to have not read their pm's
kinda suspicious

Moscow (I see you online ;d), Neph, Darg have been pretty MIA, Neph came in and dropped "vecna is scum" without explanations, and left lol
same for the two bo's

Quas hasn't been ultratown tryharding, but he's busy afaik with other stuff so excused to a point.

missing some stuff, but you're reading anyways

[thamrick]

Thanks emc

That's basically what I've gathered so far as well.

Disagree on LQ - think he has been coming through as pretty pure town in his posts.

Why lean town on Vapor? Don't really get that from what you said.

Do you think Ike likely to troll as scum?

Also, what do you think of damo? You mentioned him but didn't state an opinion one way or the other. He's done a lot of read-worthy things imo

[LordQuas]

@emc stop townreading people for alien hunting its scummy as fuck

[thamrick]

I'd like anyone who has time to comment on Ezio's claim that he is the Alien.

My theories are as follows, in order of likelihood in my thinking:

1. Ezio is Mafia and is worried about the Alien (b/c NK immume) and wants a rxn test to see if he spots the real alien.

2. Ezio is the Alien and wants to protect himself with the holy shield of WIFOM.

3. Ezio is shit town dicking about in an anti-town, anti-solving way.

Gut says 3

[e.m.c^42]

So..I've expressed my opinion on you 2 times now and I'm already seen as defending you

better not disappoint, e.m.c! We're in the same boat. If yer townie make your colors more vibrant

Is there any scumbo whose smell you find repugnant?

Honestly as of right now it's hard to see anyone less than null.

The concept of items is really giving me anxiety lol, since it's basically the same as the majority of players having a potentially game-changing PR, and it's not alignment indicative. pretty sure I wrote something about this, lemme just edit out the details from my doc and put the link xD

but Neph is strange, he's been a lot more casual than before (as well as missing lmfao)
there's been a lot of missing players, and I can't tell if it's because they're busy, or preoccupied with something else (like, a day chat exists, there haven't been more than 2-3 guests lurking, and peterbot doesn't work---so)

Ike can continue as null with shitposting until tomorrow, but continuing past day 1 not reading his PM as a trolling technique is suspicious, for obvious reasons.

[e.m.c^42]

@emc stop townreading people for alien hunting its scummy as fuck

when did I do that?

[Nephthys]

So..I've expressed my opinion on you 2 times now and I'm already seen as defending you

better not disappoint, e.m.c! We're in the same boat. If yer townie make your colors more vibrant

Is there any scumbo whose smell you find repugnant?

Honestly as of right now it's hard to see anyone less than null.

The concept of items is really giving me anxiety lol, since it's basically the same as the majority of players having a potentially game-changing PR, and it's not alignment indicative. pretty sure I wrote something about this, lemme just edit out the details from my doc and put the link xD

but Neph is strange, he's been a lot more casual than before (as well as missing lmfao)
there's been a lot of missing players, and I can't tell if it's because they're busy, or preoccupied with something else (like, a day chat exists, there haven't been more than 2-3 guests lurking, and peterbot doesn't work---so)

Ike can continue as null with shitposting until tomorrow, but continuing past day 1 not reading his PM as a trolling technique is suspicious, for obvious reasons.

I thought we had something </3

[thamrick]

Re: the Vecna/Squigs interaction on ~pgs. 17-19.

I agree with the things Squigs was saying about Vecna but it wasn't the vibe I was picking up from Vecna. To me, read more like Squigs trying to say the right things without them necessarily being true.

[thamrick]

for the 3 point to be real, he must have taken Viagra

I think Ezio is testing us, what he did was done with a cry of 'look at me, consider me, analyse me' tactic

He wants attention and to be the talk of today, I find it extremely townie for Ezio unless he's a high risk high reward type of wolf

If Ezio flips town I would lynch Vaporware....

So I get an accurate Ezio lean and I get to be put up for a lynch?

what is this thinking, rivera?

This was super scummy

[e.m.c^42]

Thanks emc

That's basically what I've gathered so far as well.

Disagree on LQ - think he has been coming through as pretty pure town in his posts.

Why lean town on Vapor? Don't really get that from what you said.

Do you think Ike likely to troll as scum?

Also, what do you think of damo? You mentioned him but didn't state an opinion one way or the other. He's done a lot of read-worthy things imo

I'm basing from the game when Quas was really really active and encouraging people to post, but considering he's in the sim + has exams, he probably leans town too lol
his reasoning isn't bad, but don't have any concrete examples right now other than he did scumread me for acting scummy XD
but his posts seemed sorta filler-y early on, but rereading him I'm chalking it to being busy

for Vapor, I guess it would be partially due to him gutreading Ezio as trolling town and sticking with it. Also, he was really different as scum 1st game, then did a 180 in the second--so feel like if he was scum he would put more effort into being different from that. also, don't see a benefit for scum to push not discussing alien, but I might be wrong.

Ike will stay null until he either reads his pm, claims to read his pm, or stops shitposting by tomorrow lol (if he doesn't, it's going to be scummy since the shit and giggles don't really outweigh the town benefits of doing so)
like, he built up with trolling last game as cop, so it's possible he's doing it as town. I have no idea how he acts otherwise