MAFIA 44: 'DREAMLAND' GAME THREAD

[Vecna]

Why day 4 Ike?

Worst first 3 pages of a game ever.

Produce

Useful

Content

Or im going to be so bored

[Vecna]

Which day does the Alien win if all the infections are successful? Is it Day 4?

Since when does Xorxes not just flat-out tell us the answer to this question? And how to damn well navigate around it to take the alien by surprise in the poop-chute?

[Vecna]

##Vote Jamiet99uk

At least I admit I'm making contentless posts on the first page.

So you say you're doing it purposefully?

The purpose of that specific post was to make a jab at Jamie, so yes. The best way to get a read on him is to get him involved in an argument. Unfortunately he is sober.

So what did his way of handling the situation tell you? Theres a pretty easy answer to this question, so why are you not answering it here while you obviously are engaging Jamiet?

[Vecna]

Which day does the Alien win if all the infections are successful? Is it Day 4?

Let's see. Alien wins when the majority of people are infected.

19 players are alive now.

Assuming a lynch and NK happen each day/night:

At the start of D2 there will be 17 players left and 1 infected, assuming the Alien themself counts towards the "infected" total then the Alien is at 2 and needs 9 for a majority.

At the start of D3 there will be 15 players left and 2 infected, assming the Alien themself counts towards the "infected" total then the Alien is now at 3 and needs 8 for a majority.

At the start of D4 there will be 13 players left and 3 infected, assuming the Alien themself counts towards the "infected" total then the Alien is now at 4 and needs 7 for a majority.

At the start of D5 there will be 11 players left and 4 infected, assuming the Alien themself counts towards the "infected" total then the Alien is now at 5 and needs 6 for a majority.

At the start of D6 there will be 9 players left and 5 infected, assuming the Alien themself counts towards the "infected" total then the Alien is now at 6 and needs 5 for a majority, so they win at that point.

So the answer is Day 6 by default. However, killing actions such as the Assassin and the Ray Gun can actually help the Alien win quicker by reducing the number needed for a "majority".


##CALL GM: Does the Alien count as "infected" for the purpose of determining if a majority of people are infected, or not?

Dead people are no longer infected though, so its really all about the random factor whether the kills hit infected people or not.

Itll be an interesting game of chicken between scum and the alien to see how they will navigate eachother. Alien is more likely to try and infect people that are unlikely nightkills. Scum should not be idiots and also try to NK those same people or they have no chance of winning against the alien.

I might actually live past N1 against for once. Granted that scum arent idiots. I guess its about a 50/50 then.

[Vecna]

##call GM do I need to read my Role PM before EON1?

I wasnt aware they had been sent already?

[Vecna]

Therefore it is IMPORTANT that if you are the Assassin, or you've got the Ray Gun, you only shoot if you think you can target the Alien - and in that case you should fire during the DAY since the Alien is night immune.

For scum, shooting townies harms your own win condition because it makes it easier for the Alien to win.

For town, shooting scum is fine if we can catch the Alien within 5 days, but otherwise actually helps the Alien to win.

This type of blatant instructing of the assassin of how Jamiet thinks he should play is not something Id think Jamiet would do as scum out there in the open. Because its bound to attract attention. Which im sure will follow in the posts coming after it.

[Vecna]

Hey guys, this might be cheating the game a little, but on D3 we just need to all vote for someone different. That should catch the alien right away.

Just saying...

Good plan this. I suggest that ALL THOSE SURVIVING TO DAY 3 VOTE FOR THEMSELVES.

Bye bye Alien.

This is actually a pretty awesome idea. Worst case scenario it forces the alien to not infect anyone N1, but that just means we can do it every day afterwards.

On the flipside, this is definitely the type of idea that scum will be even bigger proponents off, and likely to be more vocal in favor off since it will help them the same way as town, but also result in them no longer being able to waste a NK on the alien and be put in the awkward situation that one of them has to out to reveal who it is before long.

[Vecna]

even if we get infected, we're still town

our alignment stays the same, it's just that now we belong to him

but if the majority are infected Alien wins and town loses.

and scum

What a weird thing to add to this post. Like, specifically noting that you forgot to add scum, and then posting again to add it.

Too many weird little things sticking out about Damo that are off.

[Vecna]

Ike feels more bratty, either town or alien?

Why does more bratty, apparently a change, make him town?

Walk me through this statement, because it feels pretty bland and I dont get your reasoning here.

[Vaporwave]

Therefore it is IMPORTANT that if you are the Assassin, or you've got the Ray Gun, you only shoot if you think you can target the Alien - and in that case you should fire during the DAY since the Alien is night immune.

For scum, shooting townies harms your own win condition because it makes it easier for the Alien to win.

For town, shooting scum is fine if we can catch the Alien within 5 days, but otherwise actually helps the Alien to win.

This type of blatant instructing of the assassin of how Jamiet thinks he should play is not something Id think Jamiet would do as scum out there in the open. Because its bound to attract attention. Which im sure will follow in the posts coming after it.

He's capable. Never underestimate his acting skills. Remember how he wanted 2 of his mafia members killed in the open in a previous game? It's a scary Jamiet world out there.

[Vecna]

Ive had a bad week, I've got 4 votes and I'm having fun. You coming over to the corner?

"Corner", by which you mean "Mafia Daychat". Got it.

would actually humor this and say 'we are caught' but I'm clueless to his motive for being secretive

Vapor is again feeling really weird. As in weird-weird. Which, was a town-tell for him last game.

[Vecna]

Therefore it is IMPORTANT that if you are the Assassin, or you've got the Ray Gun, you only shoot if you think you can target the Alien - and in that case you should fire during the DAY since the Alien is night immune.

For scum, shooting townies harms your own win condition because it makes it easier for the Alien to win.

For town, shooting scum is fine if we can catch the Alien within 5 days, but otherwise actually helps the Alien to win.

This type of blatant instructing of the assassin of how Jamiet thinks he should play is not something Id think Jamiet would do as scum out there in the open. Because its bound to attract attention. Which im sure will follow in the posts coming after it.

He's capable. Never underestimate his acting skills. Remember how he wanted 2 of his mafia members killed in the open in a previous game? It's a scary Jamiet world out there.

I think ive gotten quite good about distinguishing between fake-ass jamiet and real jamiet. Im pretty sure this is the town version.

[Vecna]

Ive had a bad week, I've got 4 votes and I'm having fun. You coming over to the corner?

"Corner", by which you mean "Mafia Daychat". Got it.

No silly, this corner:

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http://rumkin.com/tools/cipher/caesar-keyed.php

Pretty sure this is an actual rule violation, you naughty boy. No encryption allowed

[Vaporwave]

Ike feels more bratty, either town or alien?

Why does more bratty, apparently a change, make him town?

Walk me through this statement, because it feels pretty bland and I dont get your reasoning here.

He was being mega stubborn, playful in a naughty way, he moved with ease through 1st pages, I get a non-scum vibe from all of this

[Vecna]

Hmm, haven't played something with items yet.

so how it works is that people are randed items with their alignment, yeah?
and the only way, in this game, for them to be transferred to another player is if the mafia thief takes it.

this is so much more complicated tactically XD
there's a lot more that depends on individual choices, dammit.

I have a bad feeling over this post for some reason. I really cannot put a finger on it, but it just feels weird and off. First time that has happened for EMC.

[Vecna]

Ike feels more bratty, either town or alien?

Why does more bratty, apparently a change, make him town?

Walk me through this statement, because it feels pretty bland and I dont get your reasoning here.

He was being mega stubborn, playful in a naughty way, he moved with ease through 1st pages, I get a non-scum vibe from all of this

Yeah ok, just felt from that post you were noting how he was different.....

Normally as town he plays pretty passively behind the lines. This change actually has me a little worried.

[Vecna]

It is against the rules to post in code.

Well, he provided a decoder with it, so it's really not encryption anymore lol

are you feel optimistic about the outcome of this game? I feel that scum is now able to blend in and appear townie by being concerned about catching the alien

However, alien talk is a bit necessary. Which gets to have priority? Who we should hunt first?

Shhhhh, youre ruining the secret hunting technique, dont make them aware of it.

[Vecna]

jamie and squigs going at eachother's throats like usual and then instantly both stopping and talking abt ike feels like wolf theatre

why did yall stop so easily

Yeah, by this point Squigs still hasnt gotten down and dirty with what he gained from poking at jamiet, while there really was something to be gained from it. By now after people have interpreted its not relevant anymore, but im sad he missed the opportunity.

[Vecna]

Huh.

Can we just agree that the shitposting phase is over and actually try to hunt scum instead of doing stupid shit?

Thanks in advance.

It's page 5 Jamie, I've got like 17 more pages

Am expecting shitposting until page 50 or so, any less would be an utter disgrace

also, I should keep with my resolution to act more scummy lol
but it's too tempting to talk.

oh well

Feels to me youre succeeding in your resolution quite adequately already

[Vecna]

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Im just gonna do that thing and be a jamiet.....

Can we ban this type of shit please?

(stop disgracing your own code Jamiet)