MAFIA 43 - GAME THREAD

[Durga]

rereading it sone of the votes on rd were really weird considering bb was hard scumclaiming.

couldve also been bb just scumclaiming to save rb rdr or whatever

I was wondering that too, but then bb nearly got rdr lynched and I think rdr would have been lynched if not for bozo's last second move to bb? if bb was trying to save rdr then moving to rdr in the last minute to get him lynched makes no sense

[Attorney]

Calling it out now, bozo is wolf.
He acted like he knew bb's alignment like seriously.

[Durga]

Probably.

And in any case non-conservative, so not a high priority lynch.

enough with the mechanics, we're not perpetually lynching in the conservative grouping. i'm literally gonna lynch my scum reads and that's it

That's fine, but if the mechanics suggest three or four of the remaining scum have claimed conservative it would be foolish to lynch elsewhere.

I haven't fully done the numbers yet and Tom hasn't claimed if he's conservative or not.

okay that is a significant amount that fall under the conservative bracket then. something to keep in the back of my mind i guess.

[e.m.c^42]

Not really sure how VCA works, but I shall valiantly attempt, somehow;

was brain really acting that obviously "scum-brain"? he was eh enough that I was willing to wait and see if he produced anything later, but guess my spam tolerance is too high xD

[xorxes]

can someone repost the conv vs nonconf list so we can annoy durga some more with mechanical talk?

Conservative (mafia in this pile)
Durga
Ezio
flash
Neph
Raging
rivera
xorxes
damo
Attorney

Non-Conservative
bozo
Fox
ND
Percy
Squigs
emc
thamri
worcej

The order in which people have claimed may also be relevant, I suggest we keep the other list where they were ordered.

[Durga]

i was scumreading the fuck out of fox (didn't want to press this because I wanted bb dead scum or not) - but now with bb flipping scum... it seems really wreckless to defend him so adamantly. agh!

nd seems towny to me at this moment. does nd bus like that? he doesn't even get cred for it

[Vaporwave]

can someone repost the conv vs nonconf list so we can annoy durga some more with mechanical talk?

Conservative (mafia in this pile)
Durga
Ezio
flash
Neph
Raging
rivera
xorxes
damo
Attorney

Non-Conservative
bozo
Fox
ND
Percy
Squigs
emc
thamri
worcej

Vaporwave you need to remember that Mafia did not need to tell the truth. It is highly likely there is at least one mafia in the "non-conservative" pile.

will be looking at claims to see who seems most believable

[Percy Williams]

##Call GM

A few questions
1. Are we required to post in the forum chat during night cycles?
2. Are we allowed to post one last flavour post if we are lynched as our last words?
3. Do the Mafia know who each other are before N1 comes and they can chat?
4. Is Tom exonerated for not doing anything in D1 as he was a replacement?

[Durga]

yeeeeahhhh i'm like 89% that percy is town

[xorxes]

Atto was pushing for bomb, but wanted cops on me

you're not that slick!

please COP look into Atto's alignment

Unless you think he's DUP, looking into his alignment is pontless. What do we gain by confirming he is a conservative?

Hopefully the cops are smart enough to ignore anything Attorney or Vapor are suggesting.

I thought alignment means town/moofia

There's a Party Cop that finds out which party you belong to, and another cop that finds out if you're vanilla or PR. There's no alignment cop.

[Vaporwave]

Calling it out now, bozo is wolf.
He acted like he knew bb's alignment like seriously.

that's exactly what Fox says

[xorxes]

then votes RagingIke saying how he's a best friend and loves him
(btw Raging Ike is town imo, bomb was acting weird and fake-defended in front of Durga for buddying purposes)

I'm not so sure about that. I had several moments of thinking all three of them were scum.

which ones: bomb/Ike and Durga ?

Yep.

[Durga]

I'm not so sure about that. I had several moments of thinking all three of them were scum.

which ones: bomb/Ike and Durga ?

Yep.

that's some bb level conspiracy right there xorx

[Jamiet99uk]

##Call GM

A few questions
1. Are we required to post in the forum chat during night cycles?
2. Are we allowed to post one last flavour post if we are lynched as our last words?
3. Do the Mafia know who each other are before N1 comes and they can chat?
4. Is Tom exonerated for not doing anything in D1 as he was a replacement?

1. No. The "must participate" rule technically applies during Day phases only.
2. Absolutely not, no.
3. They know their team-mates from the beginning, but they cannot chat until N1 starts.
4. Yes.

[xorxes]

but then they didn't have a night chat to discuss any plan?

I can see this if they would have had the opportunity to talk in advance, but no, now it's N1 and I think they talk for the 1st time.

Weren't you scum with us last game? Wasn't there a whole lot of bussing among us D1 before we discussed anything? Scum bus each other all the time without any previous agreement, it's standard practice.

[bozotheclown]

I thought brainbomb was pretty obvious at the end and all the movement to an absent rdrivera made it seem likely rdrivera was town. I knew no one else was likely to vote brainbomb to tie it, but there was still time for someone to vote for him to break the tie, and I was OK with the no lynch over lynching rdrivera.

Your vote was less than a minute to go... Do you really think that's enough time to vote to break the tie?

Yes, and you proved it yourself with this post:

Bozo tied it...

If you had time to point out that I tied it, you had time to break the tie.

I think there is a good chance you are scum here. As hard as it is to believe you would defend brainbomb so strongly as scum, it is harder to believe that you really believed that strongly that brainbomb was a bad lynch.

[Vaporwave]

i was scumreading the fuck out of fox (didn't want to press this because I wanted bb dead scum or not) - but now with bb flipping scum... it seems really wreckless to defend him so adamantly. agh!

nd seems towny to me at this moment. does nd bus like that? he doesn't even get cred for it

Fox received praise for being a great scum player. Could have hardcore defended a buddy so that it won't look suspicious, faking naivety

I'm not at all confident in calling Fox scum, but he's one from the talkative bunch that I don't trust

[xorxes]

rivera might be town after all

bb's flip tells us nothing about rivera's alignment. Scum rivera busses his teammates without any second thoughts, and bussing bb is something most of his teammates were probably happy to do.

agreed, bussing is what rdr does. however, it did feel like there was movement to save bb

I can't really tell as I wasn't following it live, but it read to me like bb was begging to be lynched.

[Durga]

bb's flip tells us nothing about rivera's alignment. Scum rivera busses his teammates without any second thoughts, and bussing bb is something most of his teammates were probably happy to do.

agreed, bussing is what rdr does. however, it did feel like there was movement to save bb

I can't really tell as I wasn't following it live, but it read to me like bb was begging to be lynched.

bb legit swung the vote to rdr with a minute left, which doesn't go well for this whole "begging to be lynched" thing

[Durga]

i think bb was trying to do his whole 'woe is me' thing so people would pity him and unvote him or some shit. His self vote felt like he was saying "look i'm so crazy i wouldn't do this as scum" without actually saying it.