Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD

[Tom Bombadil]

Yeah, I think it was a bit two sided, but not too much. A lot of things could have gone wrong.

As for how I was sure about Jamie and brain...I wasn’t. Lol. If you read the godthread, I sent my thoughts in. Basically I would never fakeclaim Cop unless this situation happened. 1) I was docsaved - this means Doc can confirm me so it’s less likely real Cop would counterclaim me. 2) there were a lot of experienced players so good odds Cop wasn’t an idiot or newbie. 3) I was pretty sure they thought I was cop which implicated Jamie.

As for brain, he was just super scummy. I don’t know why he played like that (but I actually forgot about desperado so I didn’t plan on having to come up with a second scan lol)

Jamie conceding instead of countering really helped.

And Neph saving me was the only reason I could try this. It really solidified my scumread on Jamie

[peterlund]

Well, I at least succeeded to get the real doc to CC with my fake claim. I thought that if I am going to die I could get something for my scum team AND if I was really lucky I would even be able to survive this EoD. But I did not expect the real cop to scan such an insignificant lurker as I though.

And I also got the cop to out too, so I am quite happy!!

((((didn't the cop out b/c the game was over...))))

DoubtingThomas
Day-4 00:04
page 227 / orig i am cop i have guilty on peter

inno on yavu (crimson)

inno on damo666

looks like vapor surrendered

The cop outed 4 min before deadline.

[worcej]

nah I remmeber looking at the setup and thinking "wow this is town sided"

prolly remove one town PR, there's just too many and too strong ones. Compare it to something like d6 and this looks BUSTED

who was vengeful btw?

Bozo was.

I was trying to give Town something that would be respected as powerful to make scum play a little cautiously. I think if darg, tom, or DT made any different choices, this game had the chance to be a landside win against town.

If I could do it over, I would have done an SK instead, but you live and learn and I’ll be better next time :)

I mean yeah ofc if the PRs UNIVERSALLY all played bad AND the town fucked it wolves could have rolled

but there is just too many clears for town, and wolves just don't have any good counterplay

when a GF is known to be in a game it's really not that much stronger then a VT, and in a lot of cases (like this game) it isn't stronger at ALL

the role oracle is an incredibly nerfed role cop, which just should have been a role cop tbh

the roleblocker was good

but just in a 1 to 1 matchup of PRs look how far behind scum are, Doc and RBer are fairly aight matchups, and oracle and vengeful are about matched, but an entire Cop vs. GF is super favorable to town and then they also get a desperado thrown in for free

just straight remove desperado and game is still prolly slightly town sided imo

Well, I guess it is what it is. I can only get better at making setups going forward.

I am pleased at how much participation happened early - it was fun to watch the reads people made and executed on

[Ezio]

Just a quote from the mafia QT. This is why xorxes is, in fact, god:

"it is always possible that Tom is not the cop, he guessed we tried to kill him because we thought he was the cop with a scan on Jamie, claimed the scan on Jamie and Jamie believed it, then got it right with brainbomb. If that's the case then maybe Ike is the real cop and he has lots of scans to screw us several times over. How about that for a theory?"
- Xorxes

[LordQuas]

Yeah, I think it was a bit two sided, but not too much. A lot of things could have gone wrong.

As for how I was sure about Jamie and brain...I wasn’t. Lol. If you read the godthread, I sent my thoughts in. Basically I would never fakeclaim Cop unless this situation happened. 1) I was docsaved - this means Doc can confirm me so it’s less likely real Cop would counterclaim me. 2) there were a lot of experienced players so good odds Cop wasn’t an idiot or newbie. 3) I was pretty sure they thought I was cop which implicated Jamie.

As for brain, he was just super scummy. I don’t know why he played like that (but I actually forgot about desperado so I didn’t plan on having to come up with a second scan lol)

Jamie conceding instead of countering really helped.

And Neph saving me was the only reason I could try this. It really solidified my scumread on Jamie

that was one of the best executed fake claims I've seen so gratz either way

still eagerly awaiting my scum rand on this site

[worcej]

Just a quote from the mafia QT. This is why xorxes is, in fact, god:

"it is always possible that Tom is not the cop, he guessed we tried to kill him because we thought he was the cop with a scan on Jamie, claimed the scan on Jamie and Jamie believed it, then got it right with brainbomb. If that's the case then maybe Ike is the real cop and he has lots of scans to screw us several times over. How about that for a theory?"
- Xorxes

I died when I saw that post.

[LordQuas]

And I also got the cop to out too, so I am quite happy!!

((((didn't the cop out b/c the game was over...))))

DoubtingThomas
Day-4 00:04
page 227 / orig i am cop i have guilty on peter

inno on yavu (crimson)

inno on damo666

looks like vapor surrendered

The cop outed 4 min before deadline.

dude it's in the post, Vapor had surrendered lol

[dargorygel]

Looks like something happened. I had unexpected guests and couldn't participate - it was real life issues. I will read what happened tomorrow.

Nothing happened

[LordQuas]

Looks like something happened. I had unexpected guests and couldn't participate - it was real life issues. I will read what happened tomorrow.

Nothing happened

game is slow

[DoubtingThomas]

Looks like something happened. I had unexpected guests and couldn't participate - it was real life issues. I will read what happened tomorrow.

I claim cop have guilty on you

[RagingIke297]

Just a quote from the mafia QT. This is why xorxes is, in fact, god:

"it is always possible that Tom is not the cop, he guessed we tried to kill him because we thought he was the cop with a scan on Jamie, claimed the scan on Jamie and Jamie believed it, then got it right with brainbomb. If that's the case then maybe Ike is the real cop and he has lots of scans to screw us several times over. How about that for a theory?"
- Xorxes

So I was getting somewhere

[Ezio]

I am proud. The god QT never mentioned me, except for once to say I was online.

Furthermore, I'm quite pleased with my reads this game on exactly every account, mostly thanks to peter's updated read list at the end there.

Maybe one day I'll be able to justify my scumreads.

[peterlund]

dude it's in the post, Vapor had surrendered lol

Well done town, you've eliminated us

Well I missed that in the rush at the end...

[LordQuas]

dude it's in the post, Vapor had surrendered lol

Well done town, you've eliminated us

Well I missed that in the rush at the end...

lol tbh I did too until I saw dt point it out

no big haha

[RagingIke297]

Can we have a discussion about the whole green check / red check thing and why its terrible now?

[Ezio]

Well, the red/green check thing successfully hid DT well enough for him to not get NK'd instead, so I'd say it worked perfectly xD

[Vecna]

wow. That sure is an explosive ending to this game. Happy it happened though, it was pretty obvious we had this in the bag bigtime and people seemed to already go into cruise to victory mode.

WP to nearly everyone. Exciting stuff.

[dargorygel]

Can we have a discussion about the whole green check / red check thing and why its terrible now?

Now? It's always been terrible.
I felt like we were speaking Russian.

[e.m.c^42]

Can't believe I didn't ask this at the very beginning, but was I correct in thinking that the scum players don't know who each other are during Day 1? Didn't read anything about it, they're finding out who each are are about now, right?

I wish this was a thing now lmao

A mafia game except it's like public press: mafia don't know each other, town don't know each other, and both town and mafia can use the mafia chat XD

that would cause so much paranoia

[peterlund]

Can we have a discussion about the whole green check / red check thing and why its terrible now?

Being scum I ofc jumped on it, as I would know that my buddies would disregard my "green checks" and that me taking part would maybe encourage the real cop to continue with his accurate green/red checks.

I have not thought through if this can be good for town. Maybe if every town are in on this scheme...