Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD

[dargorygel]

nvm... you gave me two.

[dargorygel]

@vecna . You write "Id prefer a shot on Xorxes over a lynch there, I think?

Then if he does flip scum, we have time to consider a second shot. Time to talk about the implications (was I right about the bussing scenario Xorx:Bozo for example)."

... this is what I have been thinking. It either kills scum, or gives us a mildly useful tc.

BUT... saving the shot till later is grand, for later in the game.

I shot too soon the last time I pulled the trigger, and realize we should have just lynch/ended them.

SO, while I ask everyone, specifically I am hoping to hear from xorxes, ghug, Ike, and Ezio on this: Should I shoot xorxes at lunchtime?

Well, the way the result ended up, it was good that you took those shots. We probably wouldve severly doubted the second guilty if tom ended up as a dead VT before we got the chance to manually lynch BB.

Yeah... good intentions potentially gone bad, but the law of unintended consequences worked in town's favor this time. I am thinking we get more info with a shot... BUT leaving myself alive gives scum more to work with... BUT if they NK me, we lose a scumdeath/townclear certainty.

[DoubtingThomas]

I keep not liking DT's reactions to votes, pressure, venn diagrams, and Vengeful comments. What I can't decide is if it is AI. He might just be oversensitive.

And he thinks everyone should be like him. He scumreads me for not being sensitive

Pretty sure he's town though. Evidence: the way Jamie apologised to him.

I am digging this post

[DoubtingThomas]

Here's where I'm at.

Scum: xorxes, yav, Rd, RHK

Null: Peter

Weak town: Nepthys, damo, Moscow, bozo, tham
Strongish town: Ezio, Ike, DT
Strong town: emc, Vapor, Quas, Vecna

Reads really haven't evolved since here

You really think CFox's spamming was scum motivated or is it just POE? Or is your read based on yavu's actions?

Cfox is town 99.9% of the time. I'd be mesmerized if he was scumming

[DoubtingThomas]

EW

##Vote Xorxes

I'm not the worst possible mislynch here, but if we're going to mislynch there are a few better options.

like peter. that OMGUS vote on me was like the worst thing i've ever seen since radiantcowbells thunderdomed two townies in two different games ftl

[DoubtingThomas]

wtf shitty answer, his stuff was literally the concensus how was it independent

Several, maybe most of his reads go against the consensus.

If someone is coaching ghug... I expect him to do the opposite.

LOL

[DoubtingThomas]

By now, town Peter usually has a theory that he tunnels...
I know he's busy.
But is his busy-being convenient?

@Peter
Did I shoot too early?

##VOTE Peter

Peter is probably worth chancing your shots at tbh

@dargo. his ISO is atrocious. he's putting no effort. he's omgus'ing me.

even if peter flips town he adds little to no value for town folks at the rate he's putting his effort in and we can re-consolidate new wagon formations instead of playing around xorxes/peter/demon whatever

[DoubtingThomas]

##vote PeterLund

all my town reads voting for peter

looks good

[DoubtingThomas]

@darg I would say announce pre shot in case cop has an inno scan on target or target is PR.

Also I would be surprised if doc doesn't save you tonight.

Please do not shoot ghug, me, Vecna, LQ or Ike. Anybody else fine though probably not Einstein.

you cannot town read ike or einstein over me das fucked up

[DoubtingThomas]

Shooting xorxes and lynching DemonRHK is a good option today, it gives us two town controlled flips before the next NK. I don't see anything particularly suspicious from peter, I would wait on lynching his as a lurker.

what about peter? why are you ignoring peter?

[DoubtingThomas]

Shooting xorxes and lynching DemonRHK is a good option today, it gives us two town controlled flips before the next NK. I don't see anything particularly suspicious from peter, I would wait on lynching his as a lurker.

what about peter? why are you ignoring peter?

Oh. I only read the first sentence.

"not lynching a lurker" is like the worst idea i've ever heard that's ever said in D4. If you are lurking for 4 straight days, you prob gotta go

[DoubtingThomas]

Hang on. Doc didn't save TB last night so may have saved darg.

@Darg shoot early and shoot often!!

This is sort of what I am wondering about.
If I decide to go crazy and mass shoot, what would you suggest as a line?

you should shoot couple hours before eod today and also let people know who you are shooting so that said target can claim soemthing

[yavuzovic]

Shoot Xorxes, lynch Peter
##vote peterlund

[rdrivera2005]

Hang on. Doc didn't save TB last night so may have saved darg.

@Darg shoot early and shoot often!!

This is sort of what I am wondering about.
If I decide to go crazy and mass shoot, what would you suggest as a line?

I think you should shoot people that are hard to sort, not easy lynches and that can useful as clears.
This list would include Xorxes, Nephthys, Ezio, Bozo and Moscow. And me of course, but this will kill you....

Demon, Peter and Damo are better to be lynched.

[DoubtingThomas]

Looking at d3 votecount

Jamie collects 9 votes after tom's red check

noone else has vote untiil brainbomb votes from jamie to moscow

now jamie 8 and moscow 1

the way brain votes moscow and tries to vote out of jamie (without knowing brainbomb himself will be the second red check) and try to look "townie" by not voting on an outted wolf who will be shot soon makes it hard to believe moscow is w/w with brainbomb

[DoubtingThomas]

Hang on. Doc didn't save TB last night so may have saved darg.

@Darg shoot early and shoot often!!

This is sort of what I am wondering about.
If I decide to go crazy and mass shoot, what would you suggest as a line?

I think you should shoot people that are hard to sort, not easy lynches and that can useful as clears.
This list would include Xorxes, Nephthys, Ezio, Bozo and Moscow. And me of course, but this will kill you....

Demon, Peter and Damo are better to be lynched.

why are they better to be lynched?

whatdo you mean 'not easy lynches and that can be useful as clears'

wut

[rdrivera2005]

Looking at d3 votecount

Jamie collects 9 votes after tom's red check

noone else has vote untiil brainbomb votes from jamie to moscow

now jamie 8 and moscow 1

the way brain votes moscow and tries to vote out of jamie (without knowing brainbomb himself will be the second red check) and try to look "townie" by not voting on an outted wolf who will be shot soon makes it hard to believe moscow is w/w with brainbomb

I don't think it isn't possible Brain suspect he was the other red flag, so I would not rule out Moscow as scum. Both Jamiet and Brain buss really hard as scum.

[DoubtingThomas]

ezio's posts on page 165 as literally everyone (but brainbomb on moscow) is voting jamie to vote brainbomb and makes readslist seems unlikely w/w with brainbmob and very townie

also the way jamie said "i am sure lordquas is scum now" near eon2 and right before beginning of sod3 when he was not aware he was red checked seems unlikely lordquas is w/w with jamie

yes, bussing is a thing, but the timing of it and the way they say it is different when it's on a partner to distance yourself or when you are pushing a townie for a mislynch. you dont bus teammates out of nowhere for no reason when nothing new is going on

[rdrivera2005]

This is sort of what I am wondering about.
If I decide to go crazy and mass shoot, what would you suggest as a line?

I think you should shoot people that are hard to sort, not easy lynches and that can useful as clears.
This list would include Xorxes, Nephthys, Ezio, Bozo and Moscow. And me of course, but this will kill you....

Demon, Peter and Damo are better to be lynched.

why are they better to be lynched?

whatdo you mean 'not easy lynches and that can be useful as clears'

wut

Peter and Demon will be lynched one way or another if keep not participating.
And if the target of the shot isn't scum, Dargo dies and the target is cleared. I think a lurker townclear is pretty useless. Xorxes or Nephthys, for example, could be really great as townclears.

[DoubtingThomas]

Looking at d3 votecount

Jamie collects 9 votes after tom's red check

noone else has vote untiil brainbomb votes from jamie to moscow

now jamie 8 and moscow 1

the way brain votes moscow and tries to vote out of jamie (without knowing brainbomb himself will be the second red check) and try to look "townie" by not voting on an outted wolf who will be shot soon makes it hard to believe moscow is w/w with brainbomb

I don't think it isn't possible Brain suspect he was the other red flag, so I would not rule out Moscow as scum. Both Jamiet and Brain buss really hard as scum.

So you are telling me

your scum partner is redchecked, and a cop (you believe him cuz he outted a real red check) has a second red check

his first reaction is to bus another scum to potentially make a 3rd scum look worse? when your team just got fucked 2 wolf mates?