Mafia 42 - Space Ghost Coast to Coast - OFFICIAL GAME THREAD

[CrimsonFox]

i can't believe anyone is calling peter town

[CrimsonFox]

wow i want vecana to give an all new reads list and commentary
3 posts today

[Ezio]

You're probably scum.

Brainbomb is probably scum.

Lord quas is a bad rager, but NAI.

Ghug is town, Tom is town, Vecna is town.

Oh yea Doubting Thomas is very probably town.

Peterlund is town unless he's drastically changed his meta, so props to him if he's scum.

I like einstein. Very likely town, but new so harder for me to read.

RHK feels scummy.

Moscow feels scummy.

##Vote vaporwave

didn't notice at the time but does this progression of three posts feel weird to anyone else? Calls out like four people as scummy and votes for none of them? Vapor had no votes at the time which is what prolly made me miss it but it's just a bizarre twist. Doesn't make a deal about Vapor, clearly not an info vote since he's not DOING anything with it, it's just sorta there

also having a read for nearly everyone in the game while doing pretty much nothing but death tunneling me is odd as well

maybe he's just deathtunneling me to hide behind not having to make too much content?

Also calling me a bad rager after raging at me the entire game and calling me scummy for like 2 days is a lol, but saying that it would be NAI after I've done nothing to change his points that he said I was scummy for also pings the hell out of me

I think ezio is still scum

Were you reading me in isolation, or were you reading me in the thread? Vaporwave did something very particular that I was reacting do. Do you know what it was?

Furthermore, where have I called you scummy? I've called you shit and I've called your approach to scumhunting shit, but even in the post you quoted I said that's NAI.

[bozotheclown]

I had to check again but yes he was.

and bb mentioned that bozo's response was OMGUS, which I missed while skimming it. I don't think that OMGUSing in that spot is scummy, as someone who has more experienced being red peeked as a villager then just about anyone

Yeah, OMGUS by itself means nothing. It's more the tone I think and it's the second time bozo makes an easy opportunistic vote.

I voted for brainbomb because he was calling for the Desperado to target me based on a fake cop claim, which would have gotten the Desperado killed. What is the difference between a good vote and an "easy opportunistic vote"?

[bozotheclown]

the bozo wagon is legit dumb can we cut that out for now? It was based on a red peek that was made as a joke by bb to make fun of people complaining about seer cover

Wasn't it based on bozo's reaction to said "peek"? I'm fine with that wagon, might join it.

This is inaccurate, or at least not based on fact. No one voting for me stated that as their reason. When xorxes is inaccurate I suspect he is scum. Also, I think xorxes as town would have voted for me by now if he thinks I am a good wagon instead of saying he might.

##VOTE xorxes

[thamrick]

bozotheclown - slight town - I don't get the case against him today. Seems like a genuine reaction to bb claiming a guilty scan on him, regardless of it coming from bb.

brainbomb - probably scum - doesn't feel right. Time will tell... 389 fake claims later.

CrimsonFox - town - probably could fake it, but seems genuinely casual.

damo666 - town - analyzing game info as it comes, bucking the consensus reads. Pretty confident he's town.

dargorygel - slight scum - several posts that indicate he isn't reading the game, but still shading others as scum with unupdated info. Feels like he's lazily trying to be involved.

DemonRHK - slight town - gut read. Low content, but I've been picking up what he's putting down in them.

DoubtingThomas - town - fluid reads, seems to genuinely look for motivation behind posts and reads. Firmly town in my book.

e.m.c^42 - slight town - probably town. Plenty of posts that strike me the right way, plenty that strike me the wrong way.

Ezio - slight town - really disliked his post about LQ being kicked from MU, but most of the other things have felt more in line with his town meta.

ghug - town - quite possibly the only game where I've felt very in-line with what ghug is thinking. Probably means he's scum.

Jamiet99uk - town

LordQuas - null - something feels off. I don't like the catch-up posts. Seems like an easy way to appear to be helpful while also shaping the narrative for those not following along closely.

MoscowFleet - slight town to null - I was a fan of his EoD. Still unsure but leaning town

Nephthys - slight town - good first impression

peterlund - null at best

RagingIke - null to slight scum - don't like the whole "I can't believe I didn't get flack for dropping a vote on Jamiet and leaving" litmus test. Seems oddly focused on himself in a lot of posts.

rdrivera2005 - slight town - admittedly, I think rdr is one of the toughest players to read. Pushing others' analyses is pro-town though and I see it a lot from rdr

thdfrance - slight scum - backed off my scumread of him at EoD when he switched his vote off of CFox late with the vote tied between CFox and himself. The late EoD movement though back to CFox was strange, and the AtE today brings him back into suspicion.

Tom Bombadil - null to slight town - nothing strongly stands out to me. Agree with several of his reads, but mostly null for now.

Vaporwave - slight scum - several posts rub me the wrong way. Says bozo seems scummy for being upset at bb for calling for a desperado shot "even though it was deserved."

Vecna - town - solid play, good EoD. Probably my strongest townread right now.

xorxes - null - seems slightly passive. No real positive impact stands out to me, which in itself seems off from xorxes, but I'll withhold judgement for now.

[LordQuas]

You're probably scum.

Brainbomb is probably scum.

Lord quas is a bad rager, but NAI.

Ghug is town, Tom is town, Vecna is town.

Oh yea Doubting Thomas is very probably town.

Peterlund is town unless he's drastically changed his meta, so props to him if he's scum.

I like einstein. Very likely town, but new so harder for me to read.

RHK feels scummy.

Moscow feels scummy.

##Vote vaporwave

didn't notice at the time but does this progression of three posts feel weird to anyone else? Calls out like four people as scummy and votes for none of them? Vapor had no votes at the time which is what prolly made me miss it but it's just a bizarre twist. Doesn't make a deal about Vapor, clearly not an info vote since he's not DOING anything with it, it's just sorta there

also having a read for nearly everyone in the game while doing pretty much nothing but death tunneling me is odd as well

maybe he's just deathtunneling me to hide behind not having to make too much content?

Also calling me a bad rager after raging at me the entire game and calling me scummy for like 2 days is a lol, but saying that it would be NAI after I've done nothing to change his points that he said I was scummy for also pings the hell out of me

I think ezio is still scum

Were you reading me in isolation, or were you reading me in the thread? Vaporwave did something very particular that I was reacting do. Do you know what it was?

Furthermore, where have I called you scummy? I've called you shit and I've called your approach to scumhunting shit, but even in the post you quoted I said that's NAI.

More isolation at the time but even still I don't remember him doing anything particular, I town read the guy. You want to explain or just try and lord it over people some more

and yeah I guess you're right, sometimes it's hard to tell when you just spend all game insulting people if you scum read them or not

[LordQuas]

tham's reads are fairly hedgy, a lot of them address consensus opinions and don't go much deeper then that. Also he just sorta takes one weird incident or point and that's what he uses to address the entire read on a player. Nothing feels committal

maybe he goes somewhere with them and impresses me but it feels like an early day one read list, not a mid day 2 one

[CrimsonFox]

##vote Xorxes

Geranimo!

[thamrick]

tham's reads are fairly hedgy, a lot of them address consensus opinions and don't go much deeper then that. Also he just sorta takes one weird incident or point and that's what he uses to address the entire read on a player. Nothing feels committal

maybe he goes somewhere with them and impresses me but it feels like an early day one read list, not a mid day 2 one

Fair. I'll go more in depth on my scum reads tomorrow. I didn't want to wall-of-text my entire player list reads. But it's bedtime now. If you've got any questions for me LQ, I'll get em tomorrow

[bozotheclown]

Hello everyone. I've learned my lesson from last game, and my conclusion is that hardclaiming scum is the optional strategy for town, and for me in particular.

So, I am scum.

##vote ezio he's scum.

##VOTE EZIO

Obviously

aka as its wolf indicative to prefer anchoring on vengeful

##vote Jamiet99uk

scum wouldnt claim scum

I could see Ezio, Jamie, and brainbomb being scum together based on this early interaction.

[bozotheclown]

why does Ezio come out of nowhere

He has consistently killed me N1 whenever he was scum, and I'm alive so...

So, maybe xorxes is scum with Ezio.

[bozotheclown]

Like, you know how there's someone like Neph, who's really distinct in his more scumleaning/null analysis, mini-essays with a serious tone, and more careful consideration to individual elements of posting, rather than the "general feeling". He actually overlaps with Jamie a bit too, taking in how he also uses (or can use effectively) anger/frustration to manipulate results.

Those two would be on the opposite side of the posting-style spectrum from my above post.

Does anyone understand what I'm trying to say? lol

I understand what you're saying but Neph and Jamiet are nothing alike. Neph is analytical and focuses on relevant stuff, Jamiet thinks he's being analytical but focuses on all the wrong things.

Here xorxes randomly insults Jamie, could be an indication they are both on the scum team. (xorxes could also be trying to pocket Nephthys.)

[brainbomb]

Like, you know how there's someone like Neph, who's really distinct in his more scumleaning/null analysis, mini-essays with a serious tone, and more careful consideration to individual elements of posting, rather than the "general feeling". He actually overlaps with Jamie a bit too, taking in how he also uses (or can use effectively) anger/frustration to manipulate results.

Those two would be on the opposite side of the posting-style spectrum from my above post.

Does anyone understand what I'm trying to say? lol

I understand what you're saying but Neph and Jamiet are nothing alike. Neph is analytical and focuses on relevant stuff, Jamiet thinks he's being analytical but focuses on all the wrong things.

Here xorxes randomly insults Jamie, could be an indication they are both on the scum team. (xorxes could also be trying to pocket Nephthys.)

Alex ill take spurrious claims for 400

[MoscowFleet]

Just an update guys, gonna be a busy few days for me. Haven't read last 20 or so pages, current vote count doesn't help much lol. Going to leave my vote on Ezio for now.

I should be on tomorrow for the hour or so leading up to EOD, I'll try to get caught up by then.

[brainbomb]

Are we assuming that SK kill N1 got docsaved?

[brainbomb]

I guess SK couldve been roleblocked

[brainbomb]

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[brainbomb]

##Vote ghug

[brainbomb]

I like how everytime someone accuses me of being scum its obvious theyre ignoring my scumreads entirely.