Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[Foxcastle]

Bozo, I can see why the scumteam might do that to avoid the game going to the SK, buy why would the SK do that?

Town can also throw the game to scum by not helping to lynch the SK after the town has no way to win. The SK can avoid killing a town by targeting Jamie, if he does not, the town will be motivated to lynch him and let the scum win.

IF we can figure out who it is, and that's a big if.

[bozotheclown]

Bozo, I can see why the scumteam might do that to avoid the game going to the SK, buy why would the SK do that?

Town can also throw the game to scum by not helping to lynch the SK after the town has no way to win. The SK can avoid killing a town by targeting Jamie, if he does not, the town will be motivated to lynch him and let the scum win.

IF we can figure out who it is, and that's a big if.

That depends on who is left. The scum could reveal themselves at that point.

[Nephthys]

Bozo, I can see why the scumteam might do that to avoid the game going to the SK, buy why would the SK do that?

Town can also throw the game to scum by not helping to lynch the SK after the town has no way to win. The SK can avoid killing a town by targeting Jamie, if he does not, the town will be motivated to lynch him and let the scum win.

My only concern here is what if a scum fox lets Jamie dies and then saves hoping to guess the SK. That would confirm that we lose. And even then coordinating to give to the SK would be hard

[DemonRHK]

So at this point, short of an absolute coup in the night actions, we lose, but we get to choose who wins.

Assuming I wake up for a 2-3-1 D5 I think I’d lean to the scumbos tbh.

Anyway, damo is my top pick for scum. Past that I can’t say for sure without the night actions, but I feel Durga May have tried to butter me up in her townreads.

The absolute nightmare scenario is England was on the fake claim list and scum is Jamie/Foxy/??? In which case we never had a chance from the start.

[bozotheclown]

So at this point, short of an absolute coup in the night actions, we lose, but we get to choose who wins.

Assuming I wake up for a 2-3-1 D5 I think I’d lean to the scumbos tbh.

Anyway, damo is my top pick for scum. Past that I can’t say for sure without the night actions, but I feel Durga May have tried to butter me up in her townreads.

The absolute nightmare scenario is England was on the fake claim list and scum is Jamie/Foxy/??? In which case we never had a chance from the start.

England is a guaranteed town role.

If you are town and make it to D6 at 2-3-1, I suggest helping SK win for the scum not withholding their NK. If it is 3-3-1, I suggest helping the scum win.

[Durga]

bozo HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHO MADE THE KILL???

[Durga]

am i fucking missing something

[bozotheclown]

Bozo, I can see why the scumteam might do that to avoid the game going to the SK, buy why would the SK do that?

Town can also throw the game to scum by not helping to lynch the SK after the town has no way to win. The SK can avoid killing a town by targeting Jamie, if he does not, the town will be motivated to lynch him and let the scum win.

My only concern here is what if a scum fox lets Jamie dies and then saves hoping to guess the SK. That would confirm that we lose. And even then coordinating to give to the SK would be hard

That is why I said if Foxcastle is scum, he needs to still protect Jamie if he is the doctor. If he is not the doctor, he need to admit it now or else risk the town siding with the SK when town can no longer win.

[bozotheclown]

bozo HOW ARE WE SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHO MADE THE KILL???

The SK can't withhold his kill, if their is one death and it is not Jamie and Jamie was not saved, then the kill is the SK.

[DemonRHK]

England is a 100% town role, BUT if it’s not in the game as a real player, there is the unholy chance it may have been on the scum fakeclaim list (ya know, because I assume the list was basically five extra roles they knew were not in the game)

[Nephthys]

England is a 100% town role, BUT if it’s not in the game as a real player, there is the unholy chance it may have been on the scum fakeclaim list (ya know, because I assume the list was basically five extra roles they knew were not in the game)

England, like America is guaranteed to be in the game

[bozotheclown]

England is a 100% town role, BUT if it’s not in the game as a real player, there is the unholy chance it may have been on the scum fakeclaim list (ya know, because I assume the list was basically five extra roles they knew were not in the game)

I believe somewhere the setup said that England is guaranteed to be in the game.

[DemonRHK]

That I didn’t know

[worcej]

so if foxy was scum he could say he saved you without saying he was jailed because neither scum or sk targetted you that night. So why does scum!fox claim jailed if jailor is also scum?

They don’t. That is why I said the likelihood of Fox and Damo being scum together is very low.

This post is odd, combined with his town read of Durga; possible scumteams are
Damo/RHK/Bozo (Worcej outed as SK)
Fox/RHK/Bozo (Again outed as SK)

These only work if you're town, which I believe you are not. Your confidence in this situation and the fact town can still win is inaccurate. We do not hold the keys to our fate anymore.

[Nephthys]

So pretty much everyone agrees here that RHK and Damo are scum and its just whether the last one is Fox or bozo?

Or am I missing something

[Jamiet99uk]

So pretty much everyone agrees here that RHK and Damo are scum and its just whether the last one is Fox or bozo?

Or am I missing something

Yes. You are.

[Nephthys]

So pretty much everyone agrees here that RHK and Damo are scum and its just whether the last one is Fox or bozo?

Or am I missing something

Yes. You are.

Do you also see me as scum now?

[Jamiet99uk]

So pretty much everyone agrees here that RHK and Damo are scum and its just whether the last one is Fox or bozo?

Or am I missing something

Yes. You are.

Do you also see me as scum now?

Damo is scum, sure. My pool for the remainder is Foxcastle/Bozcastle/Demoncastle/Durgcastle

[bozotheclown]

So pretty much everyone agrees here that RHK and Damo are scum and its just whether the last one is Fox or bozo?

Or am I missing something

Foxcastle could still be scum instead of damo, and I think he probably is, but that does not matter right now, as long as he is really the doctor.

[worcej]

So pretty much everyone agrees here that RHK and Damo are scum and its just whether the last one is Fox or bozo?

Or am I missing something

Definitely not exactly what I think.