Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[LordQuas]

I gtg but that bozo and Durga thing was such a laughable attempt at wolf theatre I'm gonna cry

Durga's "OMG ARE YOU SCUM?" is such a shitty attempt at distancing

scum should be trying to get SK lynched now cause they're scared

we should 100% be no lynching, but kill tf outta those two tmrw and tonight

[Durga]

Instead of screaming and crying like a child why don't you explain to me why no lynch is better

[worcej]

How do we still win? When do we lynch sk over mafia? Why does sk hit mafia over town when they're practically immune against mafia and it'll force town to lynch mafia over sk??

Well my goal was to *trick* damo into hitting scum and getting us to 4-2-1 and then lynching him D5. But regardless, let me break it down for you.

Let me put my 'scum hat' on first: Getting the SK now is a huge win for me over a no lynch. Instead of the no lynch, which gives the following D5 team dynamics:

• 4-2-1 (SK hits scum, NK on town)
• 3-3-1 (SK and NK hit town)
• 4-3-1 (SK hits town, NK hits SK)
• 5-2-1 on D5 (SK hits scum, NK hits SK)

If I can get a lynch though, I can get 4-3 LYLO on D5 and possibly win then, with my 2 other scum working together through our QT on daychat to coordinate and get one dumb town person, typically worcej, to come along with us.

From a town perspective, All the results from a no-lynch are not LYLO and D6 still happens for town. Depending on the results, we can take the SK out on D6 (5-2-1 and 4-3-1 allow this) and possibly get a 5-2-1 or 4-2-1. Worse case, it's 3-3-1 - where we need to get scum, but it isn't LYLO still. Scum want to nail the SK and the SK wants to live. However, there is a big catch to N4 that makes it easy to lynch a scum on D5...

Going back to now and how N4 will play out: The big thing here with scum and SK kills is the only confirmed town is Jaime. If Fox is telling the truth and is the doctor, he can for sure save Jaime. If Jaime dies, which would be the only for-sure town SK target, which I agree is the ideal choice for the SK, then the SK just verified Foxcastle as lying, thus scum. We would know, for sure, a scum to lynch on D6.

See my reasoning? I would love you to correct my line of thought if I am wrong on something.

[worcej]

**We would know, for sure, a scum to lynch on D5.

Got my day numbers confused.

[worcej]

Hold on a sec shouldn't we really be lynching the SK this phase

God no what we fucking lose if we lynch SK

we then need to have three straight days of lynching all scum

Also, this is very important to note too. It would take 3 in a row right now.

[worcej]

Okay, I am probably going against the town mold here... but someone needs to start this:

##vote Durga

Sure, your slot was Ike who was the D1 Vig, but this logic train from you right now has me screaming you're trying to get scum in control of the game.

You think it's best for town to take out the SK now and then HAVE to lynch the three scum in a row to win? No way, that is highly unlikely. I'd rather see how N5 ends up and reexamine our choices based on how the kills happen to make an optimum play on D6.

[worcej]

GAH!

***N4 ends up and reexamine our choices based on how the kills happen to make an optimum play on D5.

[Durga]

My brain is failing to see why 3-3-1 worst case scenario is better than 4-3.

[worcej]

My brain is failing to see why 3-3-1 worst case scenario is better than 4-3.

Because the SK has to hit a scum to live at that point.

[Durga]

My brain is failing to see why 3-3-1 worst case scenario is better than 4-3.

Because the SK has to hit a scum to live at that point.

It's a lynch at that point. *we* have to lynch mafia to live. Then sk should kill town at night

[Durga]

Then it's 2-2-1 if scum withhold their NK and the only people who can win are mafia or sk. That's why we have to get rid of the second kill while we still can.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Worcej:

Just to be clear, are you aware that if SK survives until 2 scum and 0 town remain, SK wins and game ends?

[worcej]

@Worcej:

Just to be clear, are you aware that if SK survives until 2 scum and 0 town remain, SK wins and game ends?

Yes, I am. But I think right now we need SK to give us a better chance long term.

Lets say we end up at 3-3-1 on D5. I would push again for a no lynch. Reason: scum would need to hold their NK because killing a town would be dangerous if SK hits them. SK has to kill and would need to hit scum. We would most likely go to 3-2-1 and then get an SK or scum via lynch.

[DemonRHK]

Idgaf about does scum or SK win when the numbers get low. Can we please focus on not letting it get there?

##Vote LordQuas

I think the chance he is SK that’s been brought up is interesting. I have always thought we needed to lynch today to avoid massive scum manip of the wagons (pretty much every other scenario involves every non scumbo to vote correct, and let’s be frank, that shit doesn’t happen.

[DemonRHK]

I am having a slight hesitation at the fact there are 7 people on this wagon and only 5 town.

[worcej]

Idgaf about does scum or SK win when the numbers get low. Can we please focus on not letting it get there?

##Vote LordQuas

I think the chance he is SK that’s been brought up is interesting. I have always thought we needed to lynch today to avoid massive scum manip of the wagons (pretty much every other scenario involves every non scumbo to vote correct, and let’s be frank, that shit doesn’t happen.

The scum manipulation is happening now imo...

[worcej]

I am having a slight hesitation at the fact there are 7 people on this wagon and only 5 town.

Because getting the SK is the best scenario for scum!!! I have said this already!!!

[damo666]

I am having a slight hesitation at the fact there are 7 people on this wagon and only 5 town.

Because getting the SK is the best scenario for scum!!! I have said this already!!!

So you think LQ is SK?

[worcej]

I am having a slight hesitation at the fact there are 7 people on this wagon and only 5 town.

Because getting the SK is the best scenario for scum!!! I have said this already!!!

So you think LQ is SK?

I think you are the SK, but the start of it was to move off a no-lynch. It’s a win-win for scum if Lord is town or SK.

No-lynch was the worst case scenario for scum.

[LordQuas]

Because getting the SK is the best scenario for scum!!! I have said this already!!!

So you think LQ is SK?

I think you are the SK, but the start of it was to move off a no-lynch. It’s a win-win for scum if Lord is town or SK.

No-lynch was the worst case scenario for scum.

^^ this