Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

Our best chance of actually winning this game is hitting sk today and going into tomorrow 4-3. The 2 NK's a night can severely fuck us over. Unless I'm missing something and it's 3am so there's a chance of that

See, I originally thought this, and I wanted to lynch Damo because I think he's the SK, but I kept being shouted down by people who seem to think the SK is the Town's friend.

I think the SK would still want to kill scum N4 if we mislynch D4 to prevent losing to the scum. However, lynching the SK D4 would be OK, but it would be LYLO D5.

[Durga]

Ok there are a few scenarios where it would be ok but tell me why sk would hit scum if it's more likely for them to win if town can't lynch them??? Sk is 2 hit immune to scum. They're not as much of a concern.

[Durga]

THERE IS NO WAY sk is going to aim for scum instead of town rn. We can't no lynch.

[Durga]

##vote Lord quas

[bozotheclown]

If we lose two town tonight after a no lynch it potentially becomes 3-3-1 and then I don't think we ever have enough time to lynch the sk right? Because we can't lynch sk next day or we lose to mafia, and after that it's 3-2-1 at best, and at night becomes 2-1-1 or 1-2-1 right? How tf will we kill the sk?

If the scum accidentally hits the SK it would buy us time by preventing a town death, or if the SK hits scum tonight, which I still think he should be doing, it gives us more time. Besides, it is hard to ID the SK since he is likely trying to lynch scum like the town. However, I think you have presented another reason why we should not be no lynching today, it makes it harder to defeat both the scum and the SK.

Sk hitting scum won't help us unless it blocks their NK. That's just way too risky.

If we no lynch and the SK hits scum tonight it would be 4-2-1 going into tomorrow and we still have time to lynch the SK. If it is 3-3-1 tomorrow, it may be very unlikely if not impossible for the town to beat the scum and the SK, but the scum would be more likely to win than the SK.

[bozotheclown]

Ok there are a few scenarios where it would be ok but tell me why sk would hit scum if it's more likely for them to win if town can't lynch them??? Sk is 2 hit immune to scum. They're not as much of a concern.

The scum can still lynch the SK if they get the majority.

[Jamiet99uk]

I'm with Durga. We simply cannot rely on the SK to hit Mafia tonight.

Durga, why do you think Damo666 isn't the SK?

[Durga]

I don't think it's damo because I think it's lord quas for pushing nl. Although bozo is doing a good job convincing me that he might actually be the sk.

Bozo if the mafia have majority then we lose.... What are you even saying.

[Jamiet99uk]

To clarify: from my perspective, I can understand the SK *wanting* to kill scum tonight. I just don't want to rely on them hitting.

[Durga]

If I was sk I would not aim for scum tonight. I would aim for town.

[Jamiet99uk]

@Bozo

Remember that if it gets down to:

0 town left
2 scum left
1 SK left

Then game ends and SK wins.

[bozotheclown]

I'm with Durga. We simply cannot rely on the SK to hit Mafia tonight.

Durga, why do you think Damo666 isn't the SK?

I agree we should not count on the SK so we should not no lynch, but we can lynch scum or the SK today.

[Durga]

Then again I guess mafia can cooperate with us if necessary and not NK. But again, too many random factors

[Nephthys]

After thinking it through, I see Durga's point. It is incredibly hard for us to come back from that.

Does that put LQ in the lead seat to be the SK?
That would also technically clear Durga from being the SK (yay for new information)

I will revert my vote ##vote damo

[Jamiet99uk]

Or to say that louder
SK DOES NOT NEED TO GET RID OF SCUM TO WIN
SK JUST NEEDS TO BE IN THE FINAL 3 LEFT ALIVE

EVEN IF THE OTHER TWO LEFT ALIVE AT THAT POINT ARE SCUM
THEY CAN'T LYNCH HIM, BECAUSE THE GAME ENDS WITH A SERIAL KILLER VICTORY WHEN THAT POINT IS REACHED

[Durga]

After thinking it through, I see Durga's point. It is incredibly hard for us to come back from that.

Does that put LQ in the lead seat to be the SK?
That would also technically clear Durga from being the SK (yay for new information)

I will revert my vote ##vote damo

Listen I know I just subbed in and stuff but like I functionally shot Ezio D1 and so I haven't been the sk since D1. But uhm... Good observation?

[bozotheclown]

I don't think it's damo because I think it's lord quas for pushing nl. Although bozo is doing a good job convincing me that he might actually be the sk.

Bozo if the mafia have majority then we lose.... What are you even saying.

I am saying the SK will also lose if the scum gains control of the lynches.

[Durga]

I don't think it's damo because I think it's lord quas for pushing nl. Although bozo is doing a good job convincing me that he might actually be the sk.

Bozo if the mafia have majority then we lose.... What are you even saying.

I am saying the SK will also lose if the scum gains control of the lynches.

OK but scum win then? Are you scum now

[bozotheclown]

@Bozo

Remember that if it gets down to:

0 town left
2 scum left
1 SK left

Then game ends and SK wins.

OK, I was not considering this.

[Nephthys]

After thinking it through, I see Durga's point. It is incredibly hard for us to come back from that.

Does that put LQ in the lead seat to be the SK?
That would also technically clear Durga from being the SK (yay for new information)

I will revert my vote ##vote damo

Listen I know I just subbed in and stuff but like I functionally shot Ezio D1 and so I haven't been the sk since D1. But uhm... Good observation?

Sarcasm friendo