Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[bozotheclown]

What's worcej? He hasn't gotten angry and called me scum yet so I'm a little concerned

worcej seems town to me.

[bozotheclown]

What's worcej? He hasn't gotten angry and called me scum yet so I'm a little concerned

worcej seems town to me.

Or at least non-scum.

[Durga]

Ie an unclaimed watcher or something. Everyone unclaimed needs to claim (if this has already happened ignore me but fill me in pls)

What has jamiets results been so far?

[Durga]

4 people have yet to claim:

bozo
Quas
Neph
worc

Of the five remaining two are confirmed (RHK & Durga), 2 un-cced (Jamie and Foxy), and 1 claimant (damo)

Great. All these people need to claim

[DemonRHK]

Ie an unclaimed watcher or something. Everyone unclaimed needs to claim (if this has already happened ignore me but fill me in pls)

What has jamiets results been so far?

The problem is we found out scum gets a clean fake claim list, as does the SK

[bozotheclown]

4 people have yet to claim:

bozo
Quas
Neph
worc

Of the five remaining two are confirmed (RHK & Durga), 2 un-cced (Jamie and Foxy), and 1 claimant (damo)

I would put Foxcastle with damo, not Jamie. Jamie is un-cced with a guaranteed town role. Foxcastle and damo are claiming roles that scum could know are inactive.

[Durga]

Ie an unclaimed watcher or something. Everyone unclaimed needs to claim (if this has already happened ignore me but fill me in pls)

What has jamiets results been so far?

The problem is we found out scum gets a clean fake claim list, as does the SK

What does this mean? The problem with what? With mass claiming?

[bozotheclown]

4 people have yet to claim:

bozo
Quas
Neph
worc

Of the five remaining two are confirmed (RHK & Durga), 2 un-cced (Jamie and Foxy), and 1 claimant (damo)

Great. All these people need to claim

Since the scum and SK have been told inactive roles to fake claim, mass claiming only helps the scum choose their kills.

[DemonRHK]

Ie an unclaimed watcher or something. Everyone unclaimed needs to claim (if this has already happened ignore me but fill me in pls)

What has jamiets results been so far?

The problem is we found out scum gets a clean fake claim list, as does the SK

What does this mean? The problem with what? With mass claiming?

Scum have a list of civs/roles they can fake claim from as an anti-massclaim. I'd assume it's a list of 5 of the dozen odd civs that weren't doled out. Likewise the SK has one.

[Durga]

4 people have yet to claim:

bozo
Quas
Neph
worc

Of the five remaining two are confirmed (RHK & Durga), 2 un-cced (Jamie and Foxy), and 1 claimant (damo)

Great. All these people need to claim

Since the scum and SK have been told inactive roles to fake claim, mass claiming only helps the scum choose their kills.

OK but they're choosing their kills anyway, and there aren't much kills left to choose from. Don't you think it's better to consolidate our knowledge at this point??

[bozotheclown]

Great. All these people need to claim

Since the scum and SK have been told inactive roles to fake claim, mass claiming only helps the scum choose their kills.

OK but they're choosing their kills anyway, and there aren't much kills left to choose from. Don't you think it's better to consolidate our knowledge at this point??

I do not think there is anything to be gained because the scum and SK will just claim their fake roles, and the town will be forced to claim their real roles. The end result just gives scum (and SK) more information.

[Durga]

Hold on a sec shouldn't we really be lynching the SK this phase

[Jamiet99uk]

Ie an unclaimed watcher or something. Everyone unclaimed needs to claim (if this has already happened ignore me but fill me in pls)

What has jamiets results been so far?

My Role Cop ability only became active last night. I was powerless the first two nights.

Last night I scanned Flash. He was also killed. So we all know his role. He was Vanilla.

[Jamiet99uk]

Ironically I chose Flash because he hadn't done much and I assumed he was a relatively low chance of being the NK.

[Durga]

If we lose two town tonight after a no lynch it potentially becomes 3-3-1 and then I don't think we ever have enough time to lynch the sk right? Because we can't lynch sk next day or we lose to mafia, and after that it's 3-2-1 at best, and at night becomes 2-1-1 or 1-2-1 right? How tf will we kill the sk?

[Durga]

Our best chance of actually winning this game is hitting sk today and going into tomorrow 4-3. The 2 NK's a night can severely fuck us over. Unless I'm missing something and it's 3am so there's a chance of that

[Jamiet99uk]

Our best chance of actually winning this game is hitting sk today and going into tomorrow 4-3. The 2 NK's a night can severely fuck us over. Unless I'm missing something and it's 3am so there's a chance of that

See, I originally thought this, and I wanted to lynch Damo because I think he's the SK, but I kept being shouted down by people who seem to think the SK is the Town's friend.

[bozotheclown]

If we lose two town tonight after a no lynch it potentially becomes 3-3-1 and then I don't think we ever have enough time to lynch the sk right? Because we can't lynch sk next day or we lose to mafia, and after that it's 3-2-1 at best, and at night becomes 2-1-1 or 1-2-1 right? How tf will we kill the sk?

If the scum accidentally hits the SK it would buy us time by preventing a town death, or if the SK hits scum tonight, which I still think he should be doing, it gives us more time. Besides, it is hard to ID the SK since he is likely trying to lynch scum like the town. However, I think you have presented another reason why we should not be no lynching today, it makes it harder to defeat both the scum and the SK.

[Durga]

I'm fairly certain that sk wins the game if we don't get em now. Assuming our hidden town powers or mafia team don't have a trick up their sleeve. And if this is the case I think lq figured this out and wanted us to no lynch, and is our likely sk

[Durga]

If we lose two town tonight after a no lynch it potentially becomes 3-3-1 and then I don't think we ever have enough time to lynch the sk right? Because we can't lynch sk next day or we lose to mafia, and after that it's 3-2-1 at best, and at night becomes 2-1-1 or 1-2-1 right? How tf will we kill the sk?

If the scum accidentally hits the SK it would buy us time by preventing a town death, or if the SK hits scum tonight, which I still think he should be doing, it gives us more time. Besides, it is hard to ID the SK since he is likely trying to lynch scum like the town. However, I think you have presented another reason why we should not be no lynching today, it makes it harder to defeat both the scum and the SK.

Sk hitting scum won't help us unless it blocks their NK. That's just way too risky.