Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[LordQuas]

Discounting the GM, 8th on word count. FIRST on words per post. And my cards are already on the table. I have nothing left to hide. I made it to D2, challenged and got scum killed, and can't die today or tonight. Now I'm VT and completely expendable.

I'm not whining. I'm pointing out you haven't done anything to discount the points I'm making. You're attacking my credibility instead of my case, and hand-waving away everything else.

no, you don't even have a case

literally what is your case, it's based off of the idea that, in his dying moments, squigs gave karma to a handful of players

from there you extrapolated that mafia must not only have a karma based role, but that he gave karma to that role to activate it

now he could have evenly distributed karma and activated it, making it impossible to tell who the role is based off that, but no, he chose to actually out the backup (which you think MUST be the role) by narrowing them down in the group of (4?) people, and went WAY overboard in the karma giving for ??? reasons unkown?

you then explained how wifom is dumb dumb and stupid because it discounts your idea that the mafia who was definitely dying would publicly out his partner, under the assumption that it would be neglected as wifom

then out of that list of ppl who got karma you chose me, for ??? reasons unkown?

I have addressed this with how it's obviously wifom and anti-spew no less then 2 or 3 times, but you've said how that's not acceptable or some similar nonsense

you are in fact whining, you have complained about me """""personally attacking"""" you after calling me an idiot, and I said you were OMGUSing (which you were) and had low activity (which you do)

that's not destablizing you, I say that to people I TOWN read, OMGUSing isn't necessarily scummy or bad, just like low activity isn't' indicative of being a criminal

you seem to have some sort of a victim complex going on right now, and I really want no part of it, I'm happy to sit here and exchange words all day, I'm really sick rn and don't have the energy to go do much else so I'll be around, but if you are expecting me to change what I've said because you asked the question more aggressively and ignored my original posts, you're going to be sorely dissapointed

[CrimsonFox]

Okay so demon has gone full 12year old. Anyone else have anything?

[LordQuas]

On the road home from a weekend trip to family.

Looks like normal aggro Jamie, and I fully believe his giant GM call at game start is a town tell, he could have done all of that in private instead, though that can turn into wifom.

Ghug claiming he’s more important than he likely really is, but it’s not fully alignment indicative.

Quas came out swinging for the biggest dog in the yard and got a pitfight in return. I’m leaning scum but adjusting to Null because I have a terrible fucking habit of lynching new (to site, at least) townies.

Crimson on the other hand, comes in the fool but smarcks up really quick. It just feels so fucking odd. Again, I seem too eager to lynch new to webdip mafia players but I can’t shake it.

Neph’s giant post on +1s is townie as hell and I think the whole forgetting a role is even a townslip.

Vecna loves trolling us, and I think this claim will turn into a reaction test. Frankly, the role claimed is so low power I don’t even think we give a fuck at the moment.

Lots of anchors and lurks, Ezio, ND, Fox, others I’m not recalling at the moment.

Prelim ##Vote Crimson

these are the posts that are the reason why your wpp is so high, it's really easy to talk in a lot of run on, long sentences that don't actually say anything. That's why post count isn't always the best indicator of stuff, but it still is better then wpp since I can summarize this entire post down to

was busy

jamie is aggro as normal, gm calls at start could have been done in DMs maybe that's wifom

and so on and so forth I'm not gonna do the whole post but you get the point, not to mention you only make like 2 solid reads in this entire post, it's all just stating things that other ppl did or you determining it's NAI or your read is a null

[LordQuas]

Okay so demon has gone full 12year old. Anyone else have anything?

check damo's iso real quick it's super super short, also if you have time I'm not sure how much stock I'd put into it but I did some rough spew analysis. Not a lot to work off of considering he was hedging and we can only use d1 posts (of which there aren't a lot) but I could use a second pair of eyes

[CrimsonFox]

I did read it. Jamie seems more towny anyway.

Demon is talking but not really saying anything so higher wolf equity there.

Flash has more Poppins so maybe towny?

[CrimsonFox]

How do I iso damo?

Keep in mind I'm on phone

[LordQuas]

How do I iso damo?

Keep in mind I'm on phone

http://mafia.peterlund.se/e/web/msgs?g=41&user=damo666

[LordQuas]

I did read it. Jamie seems more towny anyway.

Demon is talking but not really saying anything so higher wolf equity there.

Flash has more Poppins so maybe towny?

jamie is towny to me, from what I've heard of his meta, and just I don't think we ever win against him as a wolf anyways so I'm past caring abt that possibility

demon is death immune so idgaf abt trying read him today really

I don't know if I agree with this flash read, elaborate?

[CrimsonFox]

His posts are towny

But he did want to kill me and ghug

I now realize that I was thinking of damo not demon as an early game auspicion

[LordQuas]

His posts are towny

But he did want to kill me and ghug

I now realize that I was thinking of damo not demon as an early game auspicion

you think the dodging in and out of jamie was towny?

[CrimsonFox]

But I mean it was early game so who cares. But E had flow

[LordQuas]

But I mean it was early game so who cares. But E had flow

I mean not really, he only changed his vote after getting called out both times

[CrimsonFox]

Are you talking about his vote on Jamie then townread on Jamie?

[DemonRHK]

So here's the facts.

Squigs started on page 1, and through page 23:
Upvoted every Jamie, damo, Crimson, and Quas post.
Started with Neph, but stopped around page 10-12.
He continued to the EoD only unvoting damo.

Now, I don't think Jamie would have been scum here, I townread him and it would have been excessive, but it's there as possible.

Crimson is softcleared, toss that.

That leaves Quas, Neph, and damo. He stopped early on Neph, went last on damo.

I theorize that our scum is in the Goldilocks zone. Not too many upvotes, not too few, but just right.

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Also, you failed to address you called out ND/flash on anchoring Squigs, called me a liar when I said you did the same thing, but when I quoted you on it you failed to address that, why?

You also appear on Squigs' townreads, with Neph and Raging/Gnome (And poor dead Vecna)

I suggest the following: One of you or Neph is a Karma-powered scumbo, and I am leaning to it being you Quas. I think Foxy is scum as well, buried in Squigs scumreads with full intent to bus until ghugs' wagon formed at the last minute.

Thus, I still push Quas, but I am more than happy to lynch Foxy today as well.

[CrimsonFox]

It may be something but it's day one who cared
I didn't take the vote on Jamie as serious

However all that irreverence could be his wolf disguise

Here's a question do u think damo is a good lynch FOR TODAY

[LordQuas]

Are you talking about his vote on Jamie then townread on Jamie?

his vote on Jamie into sheeping Jamie into voting Jamie again

[CrimsonFox]

Wut. Gif

[LordQuas]

So here's the facts.

Squigs started on page 1, and through page 23:
Upvoted every Jamie, damo, Crimson, and Quas post.
Started with Neph, but stopped around page 10-12.
He continued to the EoD only unvoting damo.

Now, I don't think Jamie would have been scum here, I townread him and it would have been excessive, but it's there as possible.

Crimson is softcleared, toss that.

That leaves Quas, Neph, and damo. He stopped early on Neph, went last on damo.

I theorize that our scum is in the Goldilocks zone. Not too many upvotes, not too few, but just right.

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Also, you failed to address you called out ND/flash on anchoring Squigs, called me a liar when I said you did the same thing, but when I quoted you on it you failed to address that, why?

You also appear on Squigs' townreads, with Neph and Raging/Gnome (And poor dead Vecna)

I suggest the following: One of you or Neph is a Karma-powered scumbo, and I am leaning to it being you Quas. I think Foxy is scum as well, buried in Squigs scumreads with full intent to bus until ghugs' wagon formed at the last minute.

Thus, I still push Quas, but I am more than happy to lynch Foxy today as well.

Actually I did address when you said that I challenged you to quote where I parked my vote on someone and disappeared, I bet you $100 that I haven't done that, as all three days I have been active posting

There's nothing I can say to your fantasy because you're reading me based on nothing to do with my posts, and from hr actions of an outed, fully anti-spew wolf

The fact that literally every other player in the game instantly discounted the karma as WIFOM and anti spew speaks to your extreme Mafia prowess

[LordQuas]

It may be something but it's day one who cared
I didn't take the vote on Jamie as serious

However all that irreverence could be his wolf disguise

Here's a question do u think damo is a good lynch FOR TODAY

Eh prolly? At the very least I want to try and start pressuring people into showing up, I don't like the way the top wagons have formed and stagnated within like 2 hours

There are FOUR wolves alive right now, surely they could save foxc why has there been like no effort

[DemonRHK]

Ok, why, in your PhD super expert lord of mafia opinion, was Squigs townreading you so hard then?