Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[dargorygel]

And still waiting to hear from foxcastle about his early doc claim.
He is too good a player to a) be a doc who said, "hey I think I'll claim." OR b) scum who said, "I think I'll just claim here as doc early!" without pressure on him. So I'd like to hear his reasoning.

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay then, some very interesting thoughts and discussions overnight.

@CrimsonFox: I asked you to give us some specific details of your chats in your QT with Ghug. Please could you do that? Even a few cut and paste lines of conversation would be interesting.

I no longer think CrimsonFox is Mafia, and his play today has been very investigative and useful.

I now understand what the Mafia massclaim crib-sheet is for. It gives them a list of roles *not* in the game - which therefore cannot be counter-claimed by a townie who actually drew that role, right? That makes massclaiming a really poor strategy for town, as people will just be outing their actual roles to help Mafia and the SK decide who to kill off. Bad shit.

However, it is very interesting that Dargorygel was an early advocate of a massclaim, at a time when town did not know this Mafia-aiding document existed. If the document didn't exist, massclaiming might help town. In this setup, however, it's in Mafia's interests to get a massclaim going. This makes Dargorygel look highly suspect for advocating a massclaim so early.

##VOTE DARGORYGEL

I think these three wagons, Foxcastle, Bozo, and Darg, are what we need today. I'm inclined to bet two of them are scum.

I still want an answer from CrimsonFox, however.

[Jamiet99uk]

Aside from the above post I would also like to mention that I have two specific SK suspects.

Neither of them is currently a wagon.

I will say more about this, later.

[dargorygel]

... and jamie votes to cause three equal wagons.

I can't find who mentioned it earlier, but I like the idea of asking the SK to target Fox. He can self-save, and confirm his role. The problem is that we won't really know that the SK is in agreement.

[Jamiet99uk]

... and jamie votes to cause three equal wagons.

I can't find who mentioned it earlier, but I like the idea of asking the SK to target Fox. He can self-save, and confirm his role. The problem is that we won't really know that the SK is in agreement.

Why would doing that benefit the SK?

[Jamiet99uk]

I mean if you're the SK, your priority is to kill people, and scum if possible - not to help create townclears.

[bozotheclown]

bozo is better upon reread

GG isn't out of her scum meta at all rn, I seem to have lost my ability to read her well but I'm positive her wolf game is along these lines. Just hard to differentiate between that and one of her weaker town games? tbh when I talk abt it more she feels more like a wolf I'm just giving her time to catch up since 48 hr phase and all

worce is playin a good game, town or scum

darg/flash/gg is a reasonable scum team and any one could be replaced with someone like bozo or damo, who I need to scour through more

at this point we don't really have the opportunity to play around one of jamie/worc/neph being a wolf so I'm locking them in in my book (unless we pull this back with the SK)

SK is somewhere in this list, maybe foxc? You can't really hunt for an SK tho they should be playing as town does so just hunt for wolves and leave that to scum's NKs and if you hit the SK it's a bonus, generally proper play as town regarding an SK

##UNV

I'm gonna place my vote on one of darg/flash/gg almost every time tomorrow (after reading through damo again) when I wake up, hopefully one of them has posted since then :)

The most notable thing about RagingIke/Garden Gnome is that RagingIke claimed his gun D1 when he could have shot a town without revealing the gun as mafia.

dargorygel has not been very active, but there is this post from D1 where he appears to not know mafia has a day chat:

LordQuas makes a bland statement here... and later responds to bozo's questioning with a 'coz I said so.'

I know he's a newbie... but it felt like a build up against bozo, without a willingness to engage. Which sounds like a scum thing... and a newbie (on our site anyway) without the benefit yet of a QT might just act like that.

I'd like to see him interact with bozo's question for more explanation.

##vote LordQuas

For dargorygel to be scum, he would have had to be faking not knowing about the mafia day chat.

There is still not much to go on from the ND/flash slot. One interesting thing is that ND's first vote D1 was for Squigs.

[bozotheclown]

... and jamie votes to cause three equal wagons.

I can't find who mentioned it earlier, but I like the idea of asking the SK to target Fox. He can self-save, and confirm his role. The problem is that we won't really know that the SK is in agreement.

Besides not knowing if the SK would go along with this, confirming Foxcastle is Askia does not tell us much, as Foxcastle could still be Askia as scum.

[Jamiet99uk]

@DemonRHK
@Foxcastle

Where you at?

[DemonRHK]

@DemonRHK
@Foxcastle

Where you at?

Been sick, starting a read up now.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

[brainbomb]

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

The bot apparently doesnt acknowledge pride and flair.

[Jamiet99uk]

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

The bot apparently doesnt acknowledge pride and flair.

That's odd. I suppose it can actually read the formatting, so the colours are interfering with it?

Let's see if other formats bother it. Like, italics....

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

[Jamiet99uk]

No, italics is fine, the bot is happy with that vote.

What about this...

##VOTE DARGORYGEL

[LordQuas]

why am I still voting bozo I thought I unvoted ##Unvote?

[LordQuas]

darg's self defense was kinda lack luster but not particuarly scum indicative

[LordQuas]

... and jamie votes to cause three equal wagons.

I can't find who mentioned it earlier, but I like the idea of asking the SK to target Fox. He can self-save, and confirm his role. The problem is that we won't really know that the SK is in agreement.

this idea sucks ass we need SK to kill a wolf or we prolly just lose

[LordQuas]

... and jamie votes to cause three equal wagons.

I can't find who mentioned it earlier, but I like the idea of asking the SK to target Fox. He can self-save, and confirm his role. The problem is that we won't really know that the SK is in agreement.

Besides not knowing if the SK would go along with this, confirming Foxcastle is Askia does not tell us much, as Foxcastle could still be Askia as scum.

also this, plus that would require the SK to out themself, which near eliminates any chance of them winning

[LordQuas]

Aside from the above post I would also like to mention that I have two specific SK suspects.

Neither of them is currently a wagon.

I will say more about this, later.

good, we don't want to lynch SK today

just a PSA to the SK if you think you're gonna get lynched then you should claim, town wants you alive atm

[LordQuas]

oof feelsbad to have one ML and be put in MYLO theoretically