Mafia 41 - Sid Meiers Civilizaton Mafia - Official Game Thread

[Jamiet99uk]

Notice that in this entire game, not once has Bozo asked me a question or challenged me to respond to anything. He just starting criticising my play early on, and hasn't changed this tune. But not once has he asked me anything.

This smacks of scum deciding I'm an easy lynch and looking to paint me as scum without actually investigating anything or looking further than what's on the very surface.

[CrimsonFox]

jamie you are fucking stupid

[Jamiet99uk]

jamie you are fucking stupid

I am actually highly educated. I have a Master's degree in Law, and am just starting my PhD.

What in particular is it that offends you about what I have said?

[Vecna]

Why challenge someone else than the confirmed scum in role madness?

Uh, maybe to help town win the game by doing something that produces information that's actually useful to analyze? Because that 12-1 vote tells us nothing.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have used it. I'm just curious why an experienced player made such a useless move with it.

So then we have a 11-1 vote on D3 that tells us nothing, all while the confirmed scum can continue to use their ability during the night?

[Jamiet99uk]

Why challenge someone else than the confirmed scum in role madness?

Uh, maybe to help town win the game by doing something that produces information that's actually useful to analyze? Because that 12-1 vote tells us nothing.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have used it. I'm just curious why an experienced player made such a useless move with it.

So then we have a 11-1 vote on D3 that tells us nothing, all while the confirmed scum can continue to use their ability during the night?

If you were going to get a low-information lynch on either D2 or D3, wouldn't you want the high-info lynch to be on D2, so town has more information, at an earlier stage?

[Vecna]

So I guess in the morning, unless some weird shit happens overnight, I'd be happy with a Bozo vs Foxcastle race again. I think that would be the most informative.

I personally would like to add in the other fox as well.

I think those three hold most of the information here.

CrimsonFox seems pretty town to me, id say that be a really dumb wagon.

[Vecna]

Right now CrimsonFox, dargorygel, DemonRHK, Nephthys, RagingIke, rdrivera, Vecna, worcej, and xorxes seem the most likely to be town, in my opinion.

DoubtingThomas, DrCJG, and ND have not said enough for me to have an opinion on them.

I am moving Vecna off my town read list for saying he was not trying to get ghug lynched after playing an active role in getting him lynched. I am adding LordQuas to my town read list after a reread. That makes my likely town list: CrimsonFox, dargorygel, DemonRHK, Nephthys, RagingIke/Garden Gnome, and worcej.

I still have no opinion on DoubtingThomas or ND/flash.

That leaves damo, Foxcastle, Jamie, and Vecna as my top scum suspects.

So you think my " QUICK GUYS LYNCH HIM HE CLAIMED SCUM, DONT LET HIM GET AWAY WITH IT AGAIN"

Was serious? While I was boasting to him before that I was better at trolling him. And he was clearly trying to one-off me?

Like, really?

Youre approaching jamiet levels of reasoning here.

[Nephthys]

If I die here I'd like everyone to look into Darg, it seems as though I'm the only one really scum-reading him and may be a reason to kill me.

Also, lynch according to my massive post last night

[Vecna]

Uh, maybe to help town win the game by doing something that produces information that's actually useful to analyze? Because that 12-1 vote tells us nothing.

I'm not saying he shouldn't have used it. I'm just curious why an experienced player made such a useless move with it.

So then we have a 11-1 vote on D3 that tells us nothing, all while the confirmed scum can continue to use their ability during the night?

If you were going to get a low-information lynch on either D2 or D3, wouldn't you want the high-info lynch to be on D2, so town has more information, at an earlier stage?

No. Its better to have it later, since scum can kill off the people that come out looking really good. Also, no power usage of the scum u lynch. Simple logic

Ill refer to my earlier reads list. I think its pretty good, and hardly anything changed.

[brainbomb]

PLEASE HOLD PHASE ENDS

[brainbomb]

Advisors surround a large table in heated conversation…

Science Advisor: Blah blah blah. Important adult things. Blah blah blah.

Military Advisor: Ah. Yes. Indeed. I agree. Of course. Certainly.

Economic Advisor: Taxes, Monetary policy, budgets! More adult conversation.

Military Advisor: Yes of course, absolutely.

A young child approaches the table…

Xerxes: I’m bored. Can I go play with that other boy. He seems to be having fun.

Economic Advisor: Yes, but be nice. That is Charles IX. He is important, so no bullying.

Xerxes: Awwwww man. But I’ve got so much pent up rage. But I’ll be nice.

He walks over to the other boy

Xerxes: Hello, my name is Xerxes. You are Charles IX right?

Charles: Yes, but you can call me Charles. I hate it when everyone calls me Charles IX.

Xerxes: Okay. I got bored listening to those adults over there. Normally I love some good world domination plotting, but it's just not doing it for me today.

Charles: Yeah, I’ve never liked that stuff. I don’t even want to be king. I’d rather just play. Want to go outside and play with me?

Xerxes: Ok.

They walk outside.

Charles: I like to play tag. Or sometimes just watch the clouds and see what shapes they make. What do you want to do?

Xerxes: Let's find an anthill and kill all the ants.

Charles: Ok….That sounds fun…..

Xerxes: (smashing ants and laughing maniacally): DIE DIE DIE!!!! AHAHAHA! DIE YOU STUPID ANTS.

Charles: (reluctantly smashing ants): Uhhh. This isn’t very fun. It just seems mean.

Xerxes: You just have to picture them not as ants, but something you hate. Like a nation, or an entire ethnic group. DIE YOU GREEK ANTS, DIE!!!!!

Charles: Hmmm. I don’t really hate anyone, but my parents do... Oh. Ok… die ants…die you dumb French ants…die you stupid Hugenots. DIE HUGENOTS DIE!! BWHAHAHA!!! I’m getting the hang of this. Man, power is fun, huh? Maybe I do want to be king after all.

Economic Advisor: What in the heck are you two doing!?! I’m getting your parents right now. You come with me.

They walk upstairs to find the children’s parents, but instead they find two bodies in the room, face down and dead.

VECNA has died He was Darius of Persia. Town Ancient Deathproof

DOUBTINGTHOMAS has died. He was Catherine de Medici of France, Town Jailor

[Jamiet99uk]

##CALL GM

Can we post?

[Nephthys]

##CALL GM

Can we post?

I'm guessing we good

[brainbomb]

YOU MAY POST

[Jamiet99uk]

Okay good. Well I'm quite surprised to be alive but ho hum.

##VOTE BOZOTHE CLOWN

[Jamiet99uk]

FWIW I don't know if we're declaring these things but I wasn't roleblocked and I didn't get an item.

[Jamiet99uk]

12 Players remaining

4 Mafia
1 SK
7 Town

This is pretty bleak for town.

[brainbomb]

GM NOTE: Alright well I forgot to mention scum also has a list of fake claimable roles in the event of massclaim. Alot of these things I just assume people knew were standard in role madness so I didnt mention them.

[CrimsonFox]

##VOTE FOXCASTLE

[Jamiet99uk]

This setup is seriously not balanced. Two kills per night without a Doctor always in play, and if the SK targets town, town basically just lies down and dies unless they can lynch scum or SK every day.